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Andi Sykes is the founder and editor of Gizchina.com. He is a huge technology and gadget fan with a soft spot for hacking devices to do what they were not intended for. He also enjoys searching through electronics 'cities' looking for the latest 'knock offs'. Follow Me! Tumblr / Linkedin / Twitter

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79 Comments

  1. rianto
    rianto January 30, 2013 at 1:59 am .

    xiaomi 2 is also my choise
    the best part of xiaomi when you buy the phone you can also buy the accecories.
    Consider how bad my nexus 4 battery,
    I’m not interested in non removable battery ever again.
    With xiaomi 2 i can use the phone while charge my other battery.

  2. Fel
    Fel January 30, 2013 at 2:04 am .

    great choice mate, i love the mi store too. fb downloads fast on it. jbl 10 is ok but 7 was bit better maybe. friday should be nre update as the m2 updates every 2 weeks.

    love mine and will bring some to europe in july i guess…

  3. Rob
    Rob January 30, 2013 at 2:08 am .

    None of these three phones would have made it to my short list, for they don’t support dual sim operation.

    But, if I had to choose one, I’ve would have gone for the OPPO.

  4. Dmitri
    Dmitri January 30, 2013 at 2:40 am .

    Foggy day photo looks like there’s Curiosity robo-arm missing :)

    And congrats on the new phone — personally I like Chinese smartphones because they’re affordable, so with them you buy a daily tool, not an idol you should pray to.

    This is why I ordered Jiayu G3 recently :)

  5. chandan
    chandan January 30, 2013 at 2:51 am .

    One of the most important USP of chinese phones is that they mostly support Dual SIM…this is very important and if they can’t then, we will buy known brands like LG, Samsung, or Sony…

  6. Dame
    Dame January 30, 2013 at 4:33 am .

    With the reasons you gave, I believe you made the right decision. I might have to follow suit.

  7. velvetfinger
    velvetfinger January 30, 2013 at 4:39 am .

    no Dual-sim is deal breaker for me, i have already a galaxy, corp phone and ipod. and having 2 phones is really a pain

    Moreover the 6589 has dual sim active capabilities, which is a great feature missing in the 6577. it allow you to have the 2 lines active together so you can have 3g from one sim and receive calls from the other sim as well (not possible to my knowledge with the 6577)

    So yes, i guess i’ll have to wait 2 month for that but i do think it is worth waiting

  8. Airyl
    Airyl January 30, 2013 at 4:46 am .

    Andy, how do you think the Xiaomi Mi2′s camera matches up to the Newman N2′s camera? Performance wise? Which is more fluid? Which display is better? Is it OK that I’m asking so many questions? Sorry for asking so many questions but I need to buy a phone soon, and I’m contemplating between these two.

  9. Lexey
    Lexey January 30, 2013 at 4:57 am .

    Good choise ))!! i think i will also order 1 than compair my honor 2 and deside wich 1 i like more )

  10. fonix232
    fonix232 January 30, 2013 at 5:07 am .

    I personally wouldn’t have chosen either of them, as there are better phones on the market, for less money.

    For example, FastCardTech just began distributing the quad-core Xiaolajiao LA-Q1, for 210$, Tegra3, HD screen, 1GB of RAM, so far the best price/value ratio phone.

    Only problems so far were the modifications by Beidou to the stock Android, the lack of full software (no full-flash package has been released, thus no modded ROMs yet), and a few hardware problems in the first batch (Beidou changed the 3.5 Jack layout, and thus the right channel is working only with the regular headphones).

  11. Sérgio Silva
    Sérgio Silva January 30, 2013 at 5:18 am .

    Meh, it’s a pity for the other phones really, as in theory they should be great as well.

    Where did you buy your Xiaomi by the way? Online store?

    I’m thinking of grabbing a 32GB version but they seem to be out of stock there, and I don’t really understand the differences between the versions there

    http://www.xiaomi.com/static/mi2branchs

    The middle and right version look like they’re ridden with mobile carrier lock or something, but my Chinese sucks and Google’s not that good either :P

    Will eagerly await for your Mi2 review!

  12. Ronnie katsie
    Ronnie katsie January 30, 2013 at 6:14 am .

    Jiayu now has english version of there website and in mere future we the so called international buyers we will be able to purchase direct from them

    1. AndroidFreak
      AndroidFreak January 31, 2013 at 7:51 am .

      can you kindly share a link to the english version

  13. Kester
    Kester January 30, 2013 at 6:41 am .

    I purchased my M2 on Xmas eve, and received it on the 17th Jan in Australia (my mate in China was busy with work).

    All I could say is, I have only had one crash/restart from an app that could not open.

    I have been using M2 running on English since the very first day, but even with the English ROM, there are still some Chinese characters.

    So, it got me curious how it would be like running the mandarin version. Little do I realise, the functions are much better and there are more things you can do running the mandarin version instead of English.

    You can do take pictures with voice command with the mandarin version, but not in English.

    The music player has equaliser only on the mandarin version, the English version simply has not equaliser or tuner at all.

    As we all might expect, playing songs with matching lyrics is available on the mandarin version, but none for the English music player.

    Nevertheless, I have not regret a bit for buying the M2, it just killed my Google Nexus S in comparison.

    Andi, I made my decision to purchase the M2 after spending a month reading your blog! Well done mate!

  14. Kester
    Kester January 30, 2013 at 6:47 am .

    Also, the pre-installed “Weather” app wouldn’t work in Australia, its simply because the app only contains weather info for all the major cities in China.

    The “Calendar” app is essentially the same as Google’s calendar app, it works well with my google schedules.

    I haven’t fiddled with the security & privacy settings with M2, this is something I notice that is way different that other major branded phones. The M2 does actually have a lot of privacy & security settings. Any comments on the pre-installed security apps Andi??

  15. Airyl
    Airyl January 30, 2013 at 6:52 am .

    Looking forward to that Newman N2 vs Xiaomi Mi2 battle!

  16. Sly
    Sly January 30, 2013 at 6:54 am .

    Hi,

    This phone support video, HDMI output? (through USB MHL adapter, or other) or is possible connect it to TV ?

    Could you please test the NHL app “NHL GameCenter™”? I want to buy M2 and want to be sure it can run this app.

    Many thanks!

  17. Markoff
    Markoff January 30, 2013 at 7:10 am .

    i really hate MIUI but it can be solved by installing custom clean ROM, other thing I don’t like about M2 is shape like brick, display size is also so so, except these two things I must agree it’s rational choice and best value for the money, my colleague has it, I decided few months ago for Amoi N820 and don’t regret it, soon there should be Android 4.2.1 available (already developer’s edition), of course by specifications it’s slower with worse display, but when using JB my phone is as smooth as M2 and it was bargain for half price of M2, I think in this price category is still not possible to buy anything else, same as is not possible to buy anything better for price of Xiaomi M2

    if I would be in your place willing to spend more money, let’s say 2-3000 I would probably wait for some MTK6589 phone or would be choosing between Newman N2 and Jiaoyu G3, Huawei Honor 2 sounds OK too but Huawei mobiles are becoming expensive since you start to pay for Huawei brand compare to other chinese brands

    btw. after reviewing you have to return phones? i was under impression you can keep them, if you are returning them you should mention it at end of articles, it’s very good advertisement for non-biased honest reviews

  18. Markoff
    Markoff January 30, 2013 at 7:13 am .

    I made mistake, it should be Jiayu G4 instead of G3

  19. Kester
    Kester January 30, 2013 at 7:37 am .

    Im running on Android 4.1.1 MIUI version JBL10.0 JR003L

    It works now! Whew, glad there is voice control on the English version.

  20. gelez
    gelez January 30, 2013 at 7:44 am .

    For me others: nubia, because is more thiner and it have lte, after oppo find 5, its so nice

  21. gelez
    gelez January 30, 2013 at 7:59 am .

    pd: zte nubia for sale 1 february, http://www.nubia.cn/

  22. akash
    akash January 30, 2013 at 8:40 am .

    no one congratulated you yet!! congrats on the great phone mate..i also would haave went for xiaomi,,,
    a question though….are there any 6589 devices available NOW? so many have been launched…and many have been leaked..but are there any which is actually out there in the market for now??

  23. Sérgio Silva
    Sérgio Silva January 30, 2013 at 8:52 am .

    For the curious, here is an OPPO Find 5 sort-of review:

    http://www.tompda.com/article/31031-1.htm

    Apparently the screen is gorgeous and the battery life fantastic. Let’s wait for more reviews, I guess.

  24. Sérgio Silva
    Sérgio Silva January 30, 2013 at 8:54 am .

    Thanks for the info =)

    Also grats on the purchase, I hope it’s a keeper since I’ll most likely get one as well.

    OPPO Find 5 seems like Waldo, nowhere to be seen :P

  25. Fel
    Fel January 30, 2013 at 9:54 am .

    yeah mate got a find5 for quite some extra cash…again.. with my wee food-grabbing tools (read…HANDS) i ve to say … 4,3 like the m2 is max. i dont watch movies and so on nor do i play. my second sim card is ffs a china mobile one which is rendered useless on all gsm handsets.. got a free Samsung Note from CM though so i ve 2 packs anyway, i like some new china fons but hands down, wont be changing cause theirs a nicer bird around all the time.

  26. chandra mohan
    chandra mohan January 30, 2013 at 10:06 am .

    Hi Andi,

    What abu U9508 huawei glory, quad core, 720p screen, 2gb ram,,little cheaper than mi 2,

    Anyway u bought mi 2, still I am in the dilemma, I am interested to buy a mobile, actually planned to sale my current iphone 4 S and switch back to android again

    Local sellers ready to take my iphone 4 s for 2350 rmb, I am interested to pay more money,

    When you compare mi 2 and oppo 5 you may try to compare with U9508, if possible though

  27. ubelai
    ubelai January 30, 2013 at 11:36 am .

    Pleased to see you picked the M2! Congrats on the new phone. :)

    I’m currently waiting for mine to be delivered to Australia, so unbelievably keen to get my hands on it!!

    I personally saw the M2 as the best choice of phone for myself; all those awesome specs (not to mention the 4.3″ screen, coming from iPhones before my G3 really came to show how much I used my phone with one hand)

    Cannot wait for the review – although my phone could arrive tomorrow or the day after! :P

  28. Allanitomwesh
    Allanitomwesh January 30, 2013 at 1:08 pm .

    A good choice Andi. You won’t regret it. I am however unable to land one at a decent price,and i’m now waiting for OPPO’s promise of a 32GB International Find 5. The Nexus 4 has also made a comeback so things are tough.

  29. ivan
    ivan January 30, 2013 at 3:02 pm .

    Wow, great choice there. I would go to Find 5 out of the 3 since well, the largest screen and I am talking about 2-thumbs typing on large screen for non-English country (while still using English language occasionally) so it is a matter of choice and need. However, speaking about performance, M2 all the way, I heard the only phone able to compete with it is the Octa-core Samsung Galaxy S4 or the “almost myth” Lenovo k900 (as mentioned in your late article) or any new phones using Qualcomm Snapdragon 800. In short it is the best phone benchmark wise and almost everything else. MIUI is grand :) gonna love the themes and they even add it daily not to mention the fan-made.

  30. Geo
    Geo January 30, 2013 at 4:33 pm .

    Which site do you think is the safest to buy a phone from?I have been through reviews and comments,etc. considering major chinese electronics websites and to be honest i found none without any serious complaint.I would very much appreciate an unbiased answer.Thanks!

    1. Geo
      Geo January 31, 2013 at 9:23 am .

      Still waiting for an answer…:)….

  31. Robredz
    Robredz January 30, 2013 at 4:56 pm .

    Well like the look of the Oppo, but the M2 has the best price/performance ratio, so on balance i think you got the right phone for you

  32. Jevus
    Jevus January 30, 2013 at 5:11 pm .

    How much did it cost you? and how much should have been with the 3000mah?

  33. Sérgio Silva
    Sérgio Silva January 30, 2013 at 8:06 pm .

    Xiaomi Mi2 = 1999 CNY ~= 238€
    3100mAH battery = 150 CNY ~= 17€

    so 255€ all in all, or somewhere around that.

  34. Sérgio Silva
    Sérgio Silva January 30, 2013 at 8:08 pm .

    Also for some reason my comments don’t appear like replies, despite me clicking on the “reply” link. Facebook link also doesn’t seem to work.

    It seems that the site has some rough edges to polish still, as I tried different browsers before and results are the same :\

  35. Martin
    Martin January 31, 2013 at 4:49 am .

    Excellent

  36. daniel f
    daniel f January 31, 2013 at 4:57 am .

    Hi Andi,
    found your page on my search for Chinese phone – so far the best resource i could find up to now! Kudos!
    I have a business trip to China coming up and was therefore planning to buy a phone there locally. Is it possible to pick up the usual suspects (Newman N1, Jiayu G3/ G4, …) at a random dealer or would I rather need to order online (also regarding retail price)? Thanks for a short info on how to go about.

  37. Syed Faisal Hasan
    Syed Faisal Hasan January 31, 2013 at 6:03 am .

    Hello,

    Have been trying to search around , but still unable to get it verified. Since I am regular visitor on this website.

    Has anyone tried or can confirm that any of the mentioned Chinese dual core 6577 or quad core 6589 does support USB OTG for connecting USB flash drives or particularly USB 3G Wimax/EVO modem.

    I know that it is available in the majority of the numerous chinese brands for android tablets ,but not android mobiles.

    I did buy a Hero H9500+ (unbranded cousin of ZOPO ZP900) but found out that it does not have the necessary hardware support for USB OTG.

    To my knowledge it is still only available in leading brands of Androids and not the Chinese siblings.

    Thanks for your answers

  38. Arch Stanton
    Arch Stanton January 31, 2013 at 6:41 am .

    I have a UMI x1,cheaper than these phones but happy with it until today,the screen has gone all grey,anyone else had a similar problem with chinesse phones?

    1. Greg
      Greg February 9, 2013 at 6:00 am .

      Have some spots appeared on the screen. Going to send it back for repair.

      1. oren
        oren February 9, 2013 at 8:23 am .

        i am checking but anyway under 2g or wifi google acount keep cheking and no problem with battery

  39. Sere83
    Sere83 January 31, 2013 at 7:52 am .

    Yeah tbh as a Mi One owner I think you made the right choice. In terms of firmware stability the M2 will be good and you will be seeing very regular updates also the international community is very large unlike many of the smaller brands. Camera will also probably be a cut above most MT6589 handsets.

    My issue with the M2 is more cosmetic, its quite chunky in comparison to say a GS3 or a Nexus 4. Also as much as I love MIUI it is also not perfect. And while Xiaomi do support their phones I am still waiting for jelly bean many monthes later. I would also like a larger display.

    This bring me to my dilemma…..

    The M2 with export bumps is actually about the same price as a Neuxs 4, and while the nexus 4 is great and I would like the larger display, lack of removable battery and is a bummer although perhaps not a deal breaker and I may miss a few MIUI features. Cameras are also an issue, I really wonder how the Nexus 4 compares to the M2, i can’t imagine there would be much in it as I believe they are both sony sensors. Although Nexus 4 camera reviews suggest it is pretty average.

    Another thought was to maybe try and take a hit on specs and go cheaper and wait for the Jiayu G4 or Neo N3. But I have to admit I do sometimes look at my friends iphone cameras with a hint of jelousy!

    Decisions decisions….

    1. Sere83
      Sere83 January 31, 2013 at 1:01 pm .

      Also quick question andy…..

      How does the M2 camera compare to the Newman N2?

      1. ApOka
        ApOka January 31, 2013 at 4:21 pm .

        YES! compare it Andy `lease ;)

        And i can say that these 3 chinese smartphones are really interesting, but I would get into the group the Newman N2 (or also the huawei honor 2 although not as high-end, with similar performance more interesting prices)

    2. rianto
      rianto February 2, 2013 at 12:33 am .

      I’m a lg nexus 4 owner. i will sell this phone asap i get my xiaomi 2. battery and cell reception suck big time. camera is just average.

  40. Eric
    Eric January 31, 2013 at 10:45 am .

    Mtk6589 phones are out tcl y900 for rmb 2299 tcl p600 for 1999 both from taobao or you could look at local chinese tcl dealers. I just placed an order for zte v987 with 51buy.com for rmb 1699, they will ship 2 days later. First 500 orders for the zte will get a free bluetooth handsfree and portable charger, which i missed even though i ordered preety early. I have given these info through the tip us function you have on the website and still dont see these infos updated.

  41. Tao
    Tao January 31, 2013 at 10:44 pm .

    After waiting 2 months, I bought 2 xiaomi MI2 several weeks ago. I can’t wait another 1 or 2 months for Oppo Find 5 or ZTE Nubia 5. And there are so much bad talks about their UI (personally by my experience about ZTE i don’t like at all their support and their UI because i use more than 1 year one their smartphone before switching to MI2).
    I was really amazed by the quality not only hardware but software (generally speaking i think it is the real weakness of Chinese brands). MI2 is better than Iphone 4s and far better than Samsung Note (Note looks and feels very cheap comparatively).
    The thing I Iike the most is even without rooting your phone you can manage your apps permissions as you want.
    One more thing my parents don’t like it because MI2 screen is too small only 4’3. They have difficulties to read because of their age.

  42. oren
    oren February 2, 2013 at 9:32 am .

    hi Andi after setup m2 few times i discovered that
    1.ultimate rotation control must have and work flowesly change orientation of sms,music,gallery and actually all except lockscreen
    2. exdialer fit very nice you can choose the size of font colors and change colors buy the time of the dat (black saving battery and white is for the day)
    3.speakerphone controll works vey smooth enable/disablewhen you get close to the ear
    4.talking caller id works and says the contact name during a call
    5.sanity not compatible with that phone
    MUST CHEK 3G DATA CONSUME MUTCH BATTERY evev when idle
    5 times more then wifi or 2G
    enjoy
    oren

  43. newreader
    newreader February 2, 2013 at 2:51 pm .

    hey andi,

    can you make article of the best dual sim phones?
    lets be true to ourselves 99% of people choose to buy chinese phones
    because of dual sim capability.
    your site is known because of that…

    can you make an article the best dual sim phones outhere?

    thanks andi

  44. Nomax
    Nomax February 5, 2013 at 7:12 am .

    @oren: 3G really that bad – energy-wise? Can anybody confirm this?

    Nomax

    1. oren levy
      oren levy February 5, 2013 at 9:46 am .

      Nomax it is confirmed by some in israel..so i dont know outside
      but its around 8% per h idle if disable DATA but on 3G no problem
      if you on WIFI on and 3G no problem
      i wish more confirmation
      rom 3.1.25 international both system

      1. Nomax
        Nomax February 5, 2013 at 11:40 am .

        Hmm, we need more sources to have this confirmed.

        For me, this is kind of perfect deal, considering its cheaper AND has a better cam than Optimus 4 x HD. I dont need full HD (which will eat the battery like nothing else) on a phone, maybe only when someone ties to use it as a desktop replacement on an external monitor.

        Any sources that ship to the EU (Germany) – are there problems with CE certification someone knows of?

    2. Greg
      Greg February 9, 2013 at 6:05 am .

      3g takes little power. You have to un-sync your Google account because it keeps on checking your emails and any other account updates including your location.

      1. oren
        oren February 9, 2013 at 8:57 am .

        Greg i cheked no sync at all steel consume battey 8% an hour idle…

  45. zedge
    zedge April 1, 2013 at 2:05 pm .

    Is kind offtopic but anybody knows about caesar a9600?

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