Dave Weinstein

Dave Weinstein is a former Silicon Valley Entrepreneur now living in Hong Kong. Dave splits his time between working at a new HK based startup, speaking at technology events, and writing for Gizchina.com. Previously, Dave with the US editor for Gizmag.com in addition to a several year stint as Senior Partner managing the Beijing office of a technology focused Australian investment bank. Dave has founded 3 startup companies and been a senior executive for several other throughout his career in Silicon Valley and Asia.

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14 Comments

  1. AndroidFreak
    AndroidFreak January 31, 2013 at 8:17 am .

    Haha, they probably don’t understand the power of android with gapps :o

    Like Nokia ignoring android for windows, the same way will OPPO fail if they go to such extents of removing gapps

    1. leonwangls
      leonwangls January 31, 2013 at 10:39 am .

      a small company like oppo isn’t able to go it alone. even giant like samsung has abandon its bada os . if oppo impliment its plan to use its own os, it will lose at least 2 generation for sales to others.

  2. Frederik
    Frederik January 31, 2013 at 8:25 am .

    they root it before they send it, so it can run google play

  3. Frederik
    Frederik January 31, 2013 at 8:25 am .
  4. millgate
    millgate January 31, 2013 at 8:27 am .

    Hello,

    May I join you in expressing equal horror – and personal disgust in such blatant piracy.

    For months I have been trying to pick apart the Chinese practice of selling Android devices … without OTA firmware updating.

    There seems to be a need to explain that they … ‘are cutting off their noses to spite their faces’

    Maybe someone else can explain that better than I have; so far !!

    I hope that revealing this Oppo attempt to steal Google’s property … will shake the Chinese Second Tier manufacturers into playing the game fairly ?

  5. Armando
    Armando January 31, 2013 at 9:17 am .

    Great post!!! And you are completely right Dave.

  6. Allanitomwesh
    Allanitomwesh January 31, 2013 at 12:22 pm .

    They did warn everyone at the oppo forums to not buy the chinese version due to a different ROM.

  7. njren
    njren January 31, 2013 at 12:58 pm .

    Thing is, you never followed up on your earlier story. Alibaba insists that Aliyun OS is built almost from scratch and uses a different virtual machine from that in Android. It only runs Android apps virtually and “uses some of the Android application framework and tools (open source) merely as a patch”.

    Big difference, then, between Aliyun and Oppo’s NearMe. The main difference being Alibaba has almost unlimited resources to put together its own OS versus tiny Oppo’s hamfisted crippling of Android.

  8. millgate
    millgate January 31, 2013 at 1:27 pm .

    A very interesting response, njren …

    Might this imply that Alibaba is attempting to produce a product that is ‘Google-free’ for the Chinese market ?

    And … at the same time …

    An ‘export’ product that is equally viable in, say, the UK, as the
    ‘true – Android’ product … but fully supported – ‘OTA-wise’ for firmware upgrades by Alibaba, world-wide ?

    The latter objective could ‘galvanise’ Alibaba’s export trade objectives in the world-wide marketplace.

    1. njren
      njren January 31, 2013 at 10:43 pm .

      Not “attempting”, Aliyun has been around since mid-2011. It only got Google’s panties in a knot last fall because Acer -a Google partner- was about to announce an Aliyun-powered phone.

  9. Dudebro
    Dudebro January 31, 2013 at 6:04 pm .

    Great, an expensive phone that could become unsupported overnight

    I guess a stock android ROM is too much to ask, what about a Cyanogen version?

  10. niko
    niko February 1, 2013 at 3:52 am .

    isn’t it almost all chinese android phone, doesn’t come with gapps, which can easily be installed by flashing it using the zip file from http://goo.im , you only have to root it, which can be found sooner or later

  11. Karel
    Karel February 5, 2013 at 5:12 pm .

    You are completely missing the point in this post. While you are right that it is stupid to lock the platform to a limited package of services provided by the manufacturer, it is equally stupid to have an operating system locked to another bunch of services (whatever great you think they are). If I buy a phone with android nowadays, I can’t operate it without completely buying into Gapps. And If I don’t want to have google account and google services, I am screwed and I can’t even access google market nor most other functionalities. It is the same dead lock whatever appraisal you have for Google stuff.

    I want a system that doesn’t force me to anything and lets me chose what services I want and by whom.

  12. shannon
    shannon February 9, 2013 at 9:26 pm .

    In my mind for the Chinese version it makes more sense to do this. as stated the Google apps don’t work in China and they are marketing this for customers who don’t use the Play store anyway, who don’t have Google accounts, who have most likely never gotten on Drive. All of these great apps almost all have Chinese counterparts with many more users. So for Oppo to make a phone that works in the country it is sold in with its potentially largest market makrs sense.

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