With only 2 days until launch day, Meizu have released a teaser speaking about fast charging and battery protection.
Last week it was the Meizu M3 Note that had our interest. The latest budget Meizu hit all selling points with a new metal body, fingerprint scanner, decent processing package, 2.5D display and a large 4100mAh battery pack.
The M3 Note is no doubt a great phone, but for customers wanting a little more performance from their phones it will be this weeks Meizu Pro 6 launch that will have to suffice.
Meizu haven’t hinted much at the Pro 6, but they have released an early spy photo of the phone with a rather elegant LED flash ring with internal laser focus unit. The photo also showed a slightly revamped metal body and new antenna designs.
Gizchina News of the week
On the hardware side Meizu have been officially quiet until today when they posted a teaser talking about fast charging and battery protection. It seems that Meizu might have their own new version of mCharge set to launch this week that not only offers super fast charge times but also ensures the batteries service time isn’t shortened.
Other details could include either a Samsung chipset, or Helio X25 processor, between 4-6GB RAM, up to 128GB internal memory, a 2K display and even NFC. We only have a few days until the details are official, but in the meantime what do think Meizu will have to offer?
Wow, bro – I’m a big fan of Miezu. Excitement high.
lol you keep insisting on those 100% fake specs.
it’s not 2k screen, it’s 3 and 4GB of RAM and that’s certain
Just going off those roadmap rumours. Whatever they launch though will be outdated when they release a M4 Note later in the year with the exact same specs for a fraction of the price though. Meizu have become a disposable brand.
That roadmap has always been clearly a fake and we actually know the bulk of the specs from GFXBench and Geekbench. 1080p, 3/4GB RAM, 32GB NAND, 21MP and 5MP cams. Rumored screen size is 5.2 inch.
They are also teasing that there is no camera bump but we already knew that.
As for a M4 Note, maybe but a P20 would be more likely there and even if they go with an X20 late this year, they can’t match the cam and screen quality at 999CNY and additional cuts would be needed.
We’ll see how this is priced, at 1999CNY it would be fine – that’s relative since i would rather eat it raw than use a device with a home button and no microSD lol.
The m3 Note sold 100k units in 7 mins today and they had 12 million pre-orders (the China type) so it should do ok.
Why you guyz fighting. Take it as a pinch of salt. Wait for the official announcement.
We are having a conversation not fighting and , as i said, we already know the bulk of the specs.
Enjoy, fellas!
Maybe this helps you (ignore screen size, that’s a just a frequent error) https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx40&os=Android&api=gl&D=Meizu+Pro+6&testgroup=info
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/6032436?baseline=5753920
thanks for the link
And those results are with the 3GB version apparently… This is shaping up to be a great device.!!!
The displayed results on GFXBench are low since the runs are with unfinished software. On the GPU side what matters is how it throttles in actual games and that remains to be seen.
The Geekbench result is about where it should be.
We don’t fight here we have discussions.
Will the M4 Note be here by September ?
I am not 100% sure calling them a disposable brand is fair. I still get weekly Flyme updates for my M1 note. But that’s not the only old Meizu device still getting them. I remember you guys did an article a while back asking whether Meizu needs to make a mends with the Mx4 Pro owners, but they are also getting weekly beta updates. Take a look here and go to the different firmwares:
https://forum.meizufans.eu/category/2/phone-discussions
I am actually really happy with there support. Compared to the other 2 phones I bought the IOcean Rock and Ecoo E04 where one is still sitting on 4.4 and the other is on 5.0. If they are constently updating the OS what more can you ask for.
I usually never agree with RealJJJ but that Roadmap has already been proven false with the release of the Meizu Note 3 and Meizu’s own comments about the Pro 6.
I realize they cited band support as a reason for not opting for Exynos in this but maybe at some point in future Meizu, if they move away from Samsung for their high-end silicon, will have to start looking to Qualcomm. I’m not even getting into the nitty gritty specs, but I think if they try to keep pushing out a Pro range at the 2799 and up price range, there’ll be an expectation from consumers are just a little something more.
Though plenty of people say the design is tired and boring, I like what I’ve seen of the Pro 6 more than the Mi5 (which is a pity because I thought the Mi4, Mi4i/C and Mi Note all had a great design in their own right). But it’s probably safe to assume that any future iterations of the Mi Note will pack OIS, as the first generation did, and the Mi6 will likely continue with some form of OIS since the Mi5 has now introduced it.
From what I’ve seen, the Pro 5’s camera can easily hold its own against the Mi5’s, and if the Pro 6 continues in that tradition, then it’ll be a great shooter. Still. Marketing buzzwords can have a real impact even if in application it doesn’t mean as much. It always surprised me that the Pro 5, coming in at the same screen size, and with that intended premium quality that Xiaomi had tried to kick off in their range with the Mi Note, that it failed to pack OIS itself.
Battery life and camera performance seem to be the two big battlegrounds left in smartphones right now. I hope Meizu can be competitive in those fields.
I won’t say it will never happen (because you never know in this industry) but the chances of Meizu choosing Qualcomm over Mediatek or Samsung are very slim.
I don’t disagree, but I feel like some people following this stuff demand a flashy name and the Exynos chips always gave Meizu a certain uniqueness and, in the case of the Pro 5, crazily competitive performance. I just don’t know how I feel about them going *all-in* with MediaTek.
Is all good if they ask me, as Qualcomm chips run more expensive than the rest and actual daily performance needs will perfectly run under the MTK X25 watch … Any up-to-date SoC will but I don’t want a really expensive device … And I have a good feeling this X25 will be and excellent performer even under a 2K screen which I totally need just in case VR does pick up and things get interesting…
The people on sites like these like the flashy names, most consumers have no clue what SoC is in their phones and don’t know the difference between Qualcomm and Mediatek. I would be willing to bet the difference in sales would be negligible if any if they only swapped out the SoC.
eh, I know you’re probably right enough.
1799 yuan for Helio X25 32GB/3GB-4GB, 21MP/5MP without OIS, 3500-4000mAh battery, FHD AMOLED screen smaller than 5.5 inch.
1999 for 64GB/3-4GB and 2399 for 128GB/4GB.
Are you guessing or do you have some kind of source?
I have to assume guessing. One fairly reliable and usually accurate Chinese tech news source I follow suggests its coming in at the same 2799 price point as the Pro 5 did. Though in this instance I’d love to be wrong.
For the lowest ram/storage version i presume
To my knowledge, yes. Apparently some of the back end for picking models, pricing etc is live on Meizu’s website but not linked to or immediately visible. Among that was a starting price of 2799RMB, so I would expect it to stick pretty closely to the pricing structure of the Pro 5 at this point tbh. A price drop of any sort on the Pro 5 would basically make that an instant buy, though, even if this had plenty of bells and whistles.
Right. Cheers for that. We’ll know exactly in two days:)
The SoC has revealed by the company already.
Resolutions of camera pair, resolution of the screen, base storage and amount of the RAM has leaked on the Gfxbench database.
Side by side photos of Pro 6 with M3 Note and full frontal picture of the Pro 6 makes me think its screen size is smaller than 5.5″.
https://www.gizchina.com/wp-content/uploads/images/2016/04/s_42cbd3e2536342198deaf169e22e3c44.jpg
https://www.gizchina.com/wp-content/uploads/images/2016/04/Meizu-PRO-6-leak_71_result.jpg
AMOLED is my guess considering both MX5 and Pro 5 has came with it.
Meizu claims its main camera flush with the back. Pro 6 seems to me thick as M3 Note considering that leaked photo again. If its thickness is around 8mm, and if it has AMOLED there will be larger room for the battery.
We all know that Pro 5 was starting from 2799, so as its successor Pro 6 should be start from the same price, but I think there is a chance of it gonna be priced like MX5 instead.
Spec wise it looked like a successor of MX5.
Pro 5 is relatively new comparison to MX5, but they are gonna release Pro 6 while there is no MX6 at the horizon.
Both MX2 and MX3 was starting from 2499 yuan, but both MX4 and MX5 was low as 1799 yuan at the their respective launches.
Meizu M1 Note was a 999 yuan device, but M2 Note had launched 200 yuan cheaper.
Just a few days before M3 Note’s launch, suspiciously genuine looking poster has leaked with 1199 yuan price tag on it, but it turned out a 799 yuan machine after all.
So Pro 6 might be another addition to Meizu’s irregular and suprising pricing scheme. When the people assuming it will be no less than 2799 yuan, 1799 yuan likely gonna be a shocker.
Cheers. I’m waiting for the announcement as I really like the design of the phone so i hope it will also satisfy me in spec/price department.
http://www.gsmarena.com/massive_new_meizu_pro_6_leak_brings_us_live_images_spec_details_benchmark_results-news-17714.php
This claims 5.2″.
lol, 10-led flash….
Must be 10 small LEDs inside that circle on the back…
I doubt it will have a 2k display, Meizu hasn’t used once since the MX4 Pro and have showed no intention to use one now.
I thought some post in the past said meizu would continue to use 1080 res. Do u remember that balco??
Not off the top of my head but I wouldn’t be surprised. Meizu really likes the Samsung FHD AMOLED’s and they look very good on their devices.
I don’t really know what the whole excitement is about. For me, specs are pretty disappointing for another from PRO series. And using mediatek chipset which is underperforming really hard comparing to snapdragon or exynos. PRO 5 was a real bomb with best guts available + FHD screen but this… I hope Meizu will surprise me, because if all leaks will proof true it will be really sad for me.
Under-performing hard? Based on what?
Benchmarks? It barely beats Kirin 950 while Exynos and Snapdragon are miles ahead.
Which benchmarks? In Geekbench the Mediatek sample unit (which is a lower clocked X20) scores comparably to both the SD820 and the Exnyos 8890:
Mediatek Helio X20 – 2094 (single core), 7037 (multi core)
Samsung Exnyos 8890 – 2180 (single), 6395 (multi)
Qualcomm SD820 – 2282 (single), 5946 (multi).
The 820 has a better GPU but that’s about it.
Lol i dare you to prove that SD820 or the Exynos are ahead, not miles ahead,just ahead.
If you take Geekbench , the benchmark doesn’t favor A72 but we’ll use it anyway. http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/6038162?baseline=6033267
Kirin 955 is ahead in integer mostly because of a big win in AES. In floating point SD820 wins but on big wins in blur and sharpen filter. The total is distorted by the memory score but the memory has an impact on running anything so running all those tests already factors in memory perf and that’s why it is better to discard the memory score. So all in all, in this benchmark that doesn’t favor A72, not much of a difference. Based on the little available info A72 is a lot more efficient than Kryo , at least when comparing these 2 SoCs so Kirin wins in power at load too. Having the extra 4 small cores is another perf and power advantage.Also relevant that SD820 has a 2+2 config so not all 4 cores are at max clocks- guess the multi core score highlights that, in Integer Kirin has a 60% lead and in floating point almost 30%.
In almost any other CPU or system benchmarks (relevant ones not Antutu) the 950 beats or equals SD820. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1602?vs=1678
On the GPU side, when the going gets tough and you play demanding games more than 10 mins SD820 loses any and all advantages in perf. The lowest i have seen SS820’s GPU 9 so far) is at 214MHz, down from the advertised 624MHz, that’s 65+% down. In the same game the Kirin 950 was down from 900MHz to 600MHz so lost only 1/3 of the perf.
In LTE and ISP the Kirin is behind, although the 955 is supposed to have a better ISP than the 950, just not clear how much better.
Anyway, i know that good data is hard to find but if you manage to find it, you’ll see that the Kirin is not behind at all really.
For X25, they seem to get slightly better results than Kirin 955 in single core, but very small difference at this point and the small 8 cores kinda make it competitive enough. On the GPU side the perf is close enough. The key will be how it throttles, would be hard to match Kirin in sustained perf but maybe, just maybe not impossible if they manage the cores better- especially in gaming, forcing the game on the smaller cores could give them enough room.To be clear, i am not saying that X25 will or won’t throttle, just don’t have that info.
The interesting part is that X20/25 won’t cost a lot. It’s 100mm2 on 20nm and they can price it well enough, if they want to.
Here you go. Same graphics and “out of nowhere” MILES ahead
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx40&did1=31491219&os1=Android&api1=gl&hwtype1=GPU&hwname1=ARM+Mali-T880&D2=Samsung+Galaxy+S7+edge+%28Mali-T880%2C+SM-G935x%29
Maybe you read my comment before showing me irrelevant GPU benchmarking that has nothing to do with actual gaming.
Nope
Jakub
“Nope”
i apologize, i wasn’t aware that you are here just to troll. I’ll make sure to remember that.
And what are you? Mediatek employee? Face the truth, dear sir. Mediatek was ALWAYS outperformed by other SoCs. Even when numbers where on MTKs side still these units where worse in every day use.
About time someone did a flash ring, with HP processing (cant find link) done right can give an huge increase in detail and depth. A bit like the cameras at security in Airports. I doubt its this though, more of an effect for eyes?
With mostly average phones in 2016, Meizu may have a hit. Design seems bland
I like the design over Pro 5, I think the antenna shape is quite attractive and it seems to look a little more like the MX4 which was one of my favourite designs. The flash ring looks really cool too.
Oh, look. Newest leak of PRO 6 seems to be confirming that helio X25 is MIIIIILES after the competition.
Where is this guy who was whining so loud about me trolling? π
Ahh you are basing it on the incredibly pointless Antutu? That tells everything. I see realjjj already showed you really don’t know what you are talking about, you just obviously have it in your head that Mediatek is “miles” behind.
So far you guys said that every benchmark, showing how weak x25 is, was pointless. That tells me even more.
Except Geekbench says it is just as strong. I notice you ignored that. If you claim that benchmarks are what you are using you can’t ignore the ones that prove you wrong.
Geekbench results:
Mediatek Helio X20 – 2094 (single core), 7037 (multi core)
Samsung Exnyos 8890 – 2180 (single), 6395 (multi)
Qualcomm SD820 – 2282 (single), 5946 (multi).
And those are for the slightly lower clocked X20.
And maybe I find this one pointless as you are every other benchmark and expierience with past mtk models? I notice you ignore that. π
What does a past MTK model have to do with a current one? Last year Qualcomm’s SoC’s were terrible, does that mean the SD820 is too? By your logic the 820 must overheat and throttle because the 810 did.
No, what I mean is that MTK is known of its “more cores, more points” logic. But it always underperforms in every day use. Read comments my friend, don’t make tales.
Use the SoC’s you are talking about, don’t just make up tales because you are clearly a Qualcomm fanboy and it upsets that you Mediatek is actually making excellent chips.
Well, I have Meizu MX4, and I know what I’m talking about. It crashed benchmarks and really dissapointed in every day use. I’m not qualcomm fanboy XD I don’t even like the company. And if you’d only read comments instead of figting for your BEST BRAND EVER MTK!!!111 you would know that I wanted Meizu to use Exynos π
So you haven’t used any of the recent Mediatek chips is what you are saying? The MT6595 used in the MX4 was released in 2014.
I didn’t say Mediatek was the best brand ever. My favorite SoC company is Samsung. But I have used every single one of the recent Mediatek chips from the MT6735 to the Helios X10 and all of them were good in day to day use. Unlike you I actually use the products I speak of. I don’t base my views of a current product on a past product from the same company.
Well, as far as I know x20 was meant to be the flagship unit but proved to be mid range class at most. I also used every SoC I talk about I HAVE MY OWN Meizu MX4. That the differnce, you know. Maybe you have so many phones in your home, I don’t π
The MX4 has the MT6595, that is only one SoC. Meizu has released all of the following SoC’s since then, NONE of them are in the MX4:
MT6732
MT6735
MT6752
MT6753
Helio P10
Helio X10
You are talking about past Mediatek SoC’s not being good in day to day use but you haven’t used a single one of these that is listed. The one PHONE you have wasn’t good in day to day use, did you use other phones with that same SoC to determine if it was the phone software or the SoC itself? Or did you just determine it has to be the SoC?
Well, I was foolish to assume you can read in english. :/ ME HAVE MX4. ME BUY IT. BUT ME USE OTHER PHONES SOMETIMES. BUT ME DONT BUY THEM ONLY USE THEM.
” And using mediatek chipset which is underperforming really hard comparing to snapdragon or exynos”
“But it always underperforms in every day use.”
“Mediatek was ALWAYS outperformed by other SoCs. Even when numbers where on MTKs side still these units where worse in every day use.”
“benchmark and expierience with past mtk models? ”
I guess you can’t read your own comments in English. ALWAYS outperformed. WORSE in day to day use. You make these bold claims yet you haven’t used an MTK SoC since the MX4 which has bad software.
I will repeat it for the last time. I HAVE TRIED MOST OF MTK’S SoCs. I just didn’t have my own phones with these units, becouse I find them underperforming and being worse in every day use. Man please, use google translator, call mother, father, english teacher or anything before posting bullshit again.
The only one posting “bullshit” is you, and it shows with each new post.
Well, ok. I’ve had enough. Talking with kids was never my brightest side. I recommend investing in english lessons, ask parents, maybe they’ll pay for one or two. Have a nice day or night full of sweet dreams where mediatek is producing best SoCs in the world. Cheers π
Says the guy who types in broken English.
With all due respect, if they aren’t your phones then I can only assume that you’ve not spent very much time with them, unless you happen to borrow a wide variety of devices and use them for extended periods each time. Would you confidently say you’ve had a fair and representative experience with a wide variety of MediaTek’s most recent range of chips?
His story has changed as this has gone on because he realized he was wrong.