More news from our mystery phone friends today, as it is confirmed that this new brand will launch a phone with AMOLED display and 3000mAh battery for under $130!
We’re getting quite excited today as more details of a new phone brand and their first ever phone have arrived in our inbox. At this time we still don’t know the name or the brand behind the new phone, but we are not starting to learn the specifications.
Gizchina News of the week
What we have learned today is that the new phone will launch at a $129.99 price point through online resellers and that the device will come with an AMOLED display and 3000mAh battery! Combine these details to what we learned previously, fingerprint scanner, 5.5-inch screen and CNC metal chassis, and we have the makings of a rather attractive device on our hands.
We’ve also been told this morning that the final launch date, presale date and more spec information will be revealed through-out this week so stay tuned!
I don’t care but I think amona get this one
Who is ‘amona’?
makes no sense at all.
Short for am gonna
LMAO WAHAHAHA
this phone should be thin, otherwise 5.5 inch with only 3000mAh battery is not a good point, i doubt if it really sport AMOLED display that they may just want to hide that defect about endurance.
The SoC inside and screen power efficiency are much more important than size of battery for the actual battery life.
Moto G4 is a 5.5 and it has great battery life with just 3000mAh battery.
But is very different between a MTK SoC and a Qualcomm SoC
MTK cost significantly less though, and I`m impressed that their 28nm Helio P10 chips offer great battery life.
Qualcomm have the upper hand in having the cash to produce chips in much more efficient fab process, but that will change when MTK release their next gen chips on 16nm and 10nm
As far as I know, p10’s construction is on 28nm but it was made with a special process that, apparently, helps a lot into power efficiency… Something called like 28nm hpc+ as far as I can see on their website… Ask realjjj for more info about it
I know that 🙂 But still it can`t compete with 16nm chips in efficiency when it comes to power/performance, even SD617 which is also a 28nm chip is an all round better performer(mostly in graphics, CPU lacks a bit)
Try with S625 & newer.
SD 430 is the cheapest one built in 16nm by Qualcomm.
I hear the Redmi 3S Prime is a very good phone for 130$.
For me honestly, any phone below that performance at that price is not worth it.
To be honest it’s possible to make a SoC with exactly same cost (it would cost more with better GPU & that is must) that would have 50+ more CPU performance in real usage (quad core A73 instead of octa core A53)…
Well, there’s a reason if 16nm is a newer, costlier technology after all ?
lol … u may have triggered realjjj
Their is not much special about the TSMC 28nm high performance computing it is significantly more power conservative than second gen HPM. The TSMC will say 40% but I will say 25%. All in all not bad considering cost but compared to FinFET’s I will tie it particularly to TSMC 16nm FinFET+ not impressive as they duble that to 50%. The new MT6737 & MT6750 are meant to be power efficient but still they don’t represent a very good design.
All in all as all other competitors already presented a entry mid range SoC’s based on FinFET’s (Samsung, HiSilicon, Qualcomm) MTK is lagging badly in this segment (not that I really like any of the available designs so far).
Hopefully their will be something good in the upper midrange refresh soon. Think that the really good engineered one with A73s & new T9 (G71) for a first time culd defeat Qualcomm offering. But I don’t see that engineering in MTK (nor Samsung [who tends to spare even more than MTK on GPU block in everything that is not a flagship category]) me by HiSilicon (if they integrate new Tensilica offering) but then it won’t be widely available & probably to pricy.
I can’t really agree or disagree with you on technical basis because I really don’t know much, I can only rely on impressions and real usage datas… So the only thing I can say it’s that we shouldn’t compare high-end architectures used for flagship chips with mid-range socs, and (most importantly with the original matter) that, although both are on 28nm architecture, p10 looks like a beast compared to mt6753 regarding power efficiency ?
Well MT6753 is based on HPM (as much as I know). Now try with comparing it to MT6752.
Actually mid range is a sweet spot to argue about efficiency & architecture as it tends to use referent building block (aka CPU, GPU) designs & it’s not exactly the highest performance race either. What you really need is topical usage in apps under 1W & in games under 2W (1W CPU & 1W GPU) instead of 3.5~6W so that you can be reely happy with heat, battery life, usability… On the other hand I did (still do) had my doubts about all the big litle cpu core config & especially litle litle ones (like especially in MT6753 & alike in the turns of horrible design). Take a look about what is possible to get from old S801-805s with an use of good defined interactive governor & then compare it to more advanced manufactured P10 (HTC+ vs HPM [25% less power usage]). So I do still claim how quad A73 self stand (& only one) reasonably clocked (around 1.8GHz) cluster is a right now to go with FinFET’s instead obsolete 2x quad cluster A53’s or a dual A73 & the quad A53 cluster. I also have a high hopes for the upcoming Mali G71 GPU generation.
MT6737 or MT6750 ?
So could be fake?
Quite possibly, never know with “leaks”.
Meizu not going to get LTE here.
Sure thing lol, faked 720p for clueless folks.
Anything with that display is worth 30$.
Any proof to back this up?
Why is there so much buzz around a mediocre specced phone from an unproven and even yet unknown brand? I am sorry for skepticism, but it really looks like another paid marketing campaign at Gizchina…
Haven’t all the Chinese manufacturers started that way when they were new?
It looks more like news about a new phone brand.
I’ve already had a 5″ phone with 3k mah battery! So 5.5 with 3k is very mediocre. 5.5″ should have 5k battery like the 360 n4s to be impressive.
Are you crazy?
You don’t like it because it’s battery is not what you want?
It’s only $130!!!
C’mon, be real, you expect it to have a huge battery for $130?
Some people just can’t get over themselves, trying to be that guy.
It could have mediocre battery life it could have battery life better than your 5″ phone. Battery life is determined by a lot more than the mAh number such as software, battery type, display tech, audio/camera components, battery quality etc. I can point to numerous phones with 3KmAh that have drastically different battery life.
BALCO!!! didnt i tell you to stop being rational >:(
It’s one of my biggest flaws!
What you said is true balco. But we are talking about raw specs here. There’s no guarantee that this new manufacturer has good software. Normally, the weakest point of a Chinese phone from a Chinese brand is its software, even for famous brands like Huawei, OPPO and such. Smaller Chinese manufacturers rarely have enough resources to spare for software development so they have to depend on raw specs to sell their phone. And for the raw specs of this phone, I say it unimpressed at best and mediocre at least! Lenovo k3 note has removable 3k mah battery since some years ago!
I don’t care but I think amona get this one
Who is ‘amona’?
makes no sense at all.
Short for am gonna
LMAO WAHAHAHA
this phone should be thin, otherwise 5.5 inch with only 3000mAh battery is not a good point, i doubt if it really sport AMOLED display that they may just want to hide that defect about endurance.
The SoC inside and screen power efficiency are much more important than size of battery for the actual battery life.
Moto G4 is a 5.5 and it has great battery life with just 3000mAh battery.
But is very different between a MTK SoC and a Qualcomm SoC
MTK cost significantly less though, and I`m impressed that their 28nm Helio P10 chips offer great battery life.
Qualcomm have the upper hand in having the cash to produce chips in much more efficient fab process, but that will change when MTK release their next gen chips on 16nm and 10nm
As far as I know, p10’s construction is on 28nm but it was made with a special process that, apparently, helps a lot into power efficiency… Something called like 28nm hpc+ as far as I can see on their website… Ask realjjj for more info about it
I know that 🙂 But still it can`t compete with 16nm chips in efficiency when it comes to power/performance, even SD617 which is also a 28nm chip is an all round better performer(mostly in graphics, CPU lacks a bit)
lol … u may have triggered realjjj
Their is not much special about the TSMC 28nm high performance computing it is significantly more power conservative than second gen HPM. The TSMC will say 40% but I will say 25%. All in all not bad considering cost but compared to FinFET’s I will tie it particularly to TSMC 16nm FinFET+ not impressive as they duble that to 50%. The new MT6737 & MT6750 are meant to be power efficient but still they don’t represent a very good design.
All in all as all other competitors already presented a entry mid range SoC’s based on FinFET’s (Samsung, HiSilicon, Qualcomm) MTK is lagging badly in this segment (not that I really like any of the available designs so far).
Hopefully their will be something good in the upper midrange refresh soon. Think that the really good engineered one with A73s & new T9 (G71) for a first time culd defeat Qualcomm offering. But I don’t see that engineering in MTK (nor Samsung [who tends to spare even more than MTK on GPU block in everything that is not a flagship category]) me by HiSilicon (if they integrate new Tensilica offering) but then it won’t be widely available & probably to pricy.
Try with S625 & newer.
I can’t really agree or disagree with you on technical basis because I really don’t know much, I can only rely on impressions and real usage datas… So the only thing I can say it’s that we shouldn’t compare high-end architectures used for flagship chips with mid-range socs, and (most importantly with the original matter) that, although both are on 28nm architecture, p10 looks like a beast compared to mt6753 regarding power efficiency 😁
Well, there’s a reason if 16nm is a newer, costlier technology after all 😁
Well MT6753 is based on HPM (as much as I know). Now try with comparing it to MT6752.
Actually mid range is a sweet spot to argue about efficiency & architecture as it tends to use referent building block (aka CPU, GPU) designs & it’s not exactly the highest performance race either. What you really need is typical usage in apps under 1W & in games under 2W (1W CPU & 1W GPU) instead of 3.5~6W so that you can be reely happy with heat, battery life, usability… On the other hand I did (still do) had my doubts about all the big litle cpu core config & especially litle litle ones (like especially in MT6753 & alike in the turns of horrible design). Take a look about what is possible to get from old S801-805s with an use of good defined interactive governor & then compare it to more advanced manufactured P10 (HTC+ vs HPM [25% less power usage]). So I do still claim how quad A73 self stand (& only one) reasonably clocked (around 1.8GHz) cluster is a right now to go with FinFET’s instead obsolete 2x quad cluster A53’s or a dual A73 & the quad A53 cluster. I also have a high hopes for the upcoming Mali G71 GPU generation.
SD 430 is the cheapest one built in 16nm by Qualcomm.
I hear the Redmi 3S Prime is a very good phone for 130$.
For me honestly, any phone below that performance at that price is not worth it.
To be honest it’s possible to make a SoC with exactly same cost (it would cost more with better GPU & that is must) that would have 50+ more CPU performance in real usage (quad core A73 instead of octa core A53)…
MT6737 or MT6750 ?
So could be fake?
Quite possibly, never know with “leaks”.
Meizu not going to get LTE here.
Why do they persist on knocking out these mediocre phones? Can we really get excited about another generic phone that’s just going to look the same and have the same low end specs? And most likely receive no support and updates what’s so ever? Who’s actually buying these?
Really, you can’t see it that some people can’t afford a jacked up phone?
You are not the only person in this world, buddy.
Get real.
The fact it’s only $130, with the so far released specs. is pretty amazing.
For that matter, name any Chinese phone that has regular updates, including security updates.
Updates to fix a crappy OS like OOS, doesn’t count. Especially since it was released full of bugs to begin with.
Most of the Chinese phones never get updated, for a reason. They want you to waste your money on a newer model with newer Android.
I think you just contradicted your self there buddy! You think this phone is amazing for $130 but then say Chinese phones never update because they want you to waste your money to buy a newer model? Well what’s the point in buying it in the first place! And if someone is on a budget, why buy a phone that’s never going to get updated ? You sound stupid pal! And just to let you know you don’t need to spend a lot! I’ve just bought the qiku N4S for $220 you get the helio x20 , 4 gb RAM , 32 gb of storage and a SD card, finger print scanner all metal design, a 5000 mAh battery and I’ve already received 3 updates to improve stability!!! All this for an extra $90 then the $130 phone you talking about pal! I think you need to get real! And all people need to do is a bit of research before buying! And you don’t need to spend alot!
Contradicted myself? How is the lack of updates have anything to do with the $130 price!!!????
Sure you found another phone for $90 more that has the 5000mah battery. But that is $90 MORE!! How can you expect a $130 phone to have those same specs.!!!!!!! Stupid, ignorant, insane comments shows you have no idea what you are talking about.
Hahaha you fool , $130 for pretty amazing specs you said ! You really think that! Wait until all the resellers add there $ on to the price! And by the time its actually released, them not so amazing specs will even be more not so amazing!LOL and about them updates your the one that said Chinese companies don’t release updates so you go out and by a newer model ! You must think we’re all loaded buy a phone no update so throw it away buy a newer model and repeat, Lol you idiot!
You seem to assume a lot in your response, are you crazy?
I personally would not do that or even recommend doing that.
I just said that is the reason behind them never doing updates.
Where do you get off saying that re-sellers would add costs at all?
Damn near all Chinese manufacturers sell their phone directly to the consumer.
Another sign of an ignorant person, is resorting to name calling.
Are you twelve years old, it would seem so from your post?
Do you actually read what you write? So it’s o.k for you to comment to someone stupid and insane ? But you don’t like it when someone defends them self back? And at the end of the day I didn’t jump on someone else’s comment I made my own comment about the article I read, if you didn’t like it, I suggest you scroll past next time! You actually went out you way to comment on it and because I don’t agree with you your being a dick! Stop trolling other people comments and opinions and jog on you little prick!
nice conversation you and chuck jones had here but, but i must remind you that YOU OWE ME SOMETHING….. tell me where you bought the qiku N4S pleasssssssse!!! was it through liaow? thats the only place i found but im unsure whether to use such a site 🙂
Hi Assefa yes I got mine from liaow and yes they are 100% genuine and trustworthy I have brought two phones from them so far ! My Qiku N4S only took 4 days to deliver from ordering it and getting it here in the u.k by DHL delivery. Last year I brought a IUNI U3 and that took about the same time. I emailed them first to make sure Qiku was in stock then paid by pay pal then once confirmed payment received I got shipping number straight away then 3 days later got my new phone I definitely recommend them! If you wanna now anything about the N4S I’ll be happy to answer and questions.
thanks, whats the battery life like and the camera and you said your getting software updates right?
Hi Assefa sorry for the late reply I’ve been at work, so to start with the os is quite light most Chinese apps can be uninstalled or disabled, yes had 3 update so far but can’t read Chinese so not sorry what was updated or improvements were lol and I’ve never had a problem with Google play services crashing , out of the 4 gb ram there is always 2.7 available, camera has lots of modes including manual mode and camera focuses pretty quick. So one of the reasons I brought this phone is the 5000mah battery I work 12 hours so if I forget to charge it I wanted to make sure I’ve got enough battery for the next day when I’m at work until I come home, so far I can get two days out of the phone with medium use, if I’m not at work the phone with last all day with heavy usage and best of all the phone does come with quick charge ! I’ve not timed it exactly but when your down to 15% it takes about 45 to an hour to fully charge. Hope that helps if there’s anything else let me know can’t recommend this phone enough! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/febbc1adbf8cec821e537d7d96d0e42a448878193a9db05a83d2e420e4c9744c.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/366f5ac8b1d89b625e4d919178aad6ac63beeb1702a49f2aa837e1e2ddef5171.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c8cdaa24391f29afdde6bba9efe6346cd36fb7b9abd014dee496c2b2a860705c.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6fe07262d6862c78fa249c0f4cc0c7bf3af988a9d799240d19f152e082135a3e.png
you are my hero thanks. so liaow sends the quick charge in the box or do you have to buy it seperately woooooow i can even adjust the shutter speeeed thats fantastic!
Yes you get quick charger and ear buds in box with phone, like I said I’ve never had a problem with liaow in fact it’s the only place I’ll buy from now! And I can’t fault this phone you get alot for you money!
More budget phones are sold every year than flagships. Tens of millions of people are buying phones like this. As for support that can be shaky even with name brands.
Sure thing lol, faked 720p for clueless folks.
Anything with that display is worth 30$.
Any proof to back this up?
Why is there so much buzz around a mediocre specced phone from an unproven and even yet unknown brand? I am sorry for skepticism, but it really looks like another paid marketing campaign at Gizchina…
Haven’t all the Chinese manufacturers started that way when they were new?
It looks more like news about a new phone brand.
Amoled=gamble Lenovo went for amoled and on screen buttons on the p2 they are just asking for burn in
Every AMOLED I ever used had unnatural colors, even those from Samsung. Personally I prefer LCD but it wouldn’t keep me buying from a phone.
i liked the lenovo p2 its not necessarily that it would stop me its just that it has onscreen buttons ON an amoled that scares me with that burn in chance, burn ins are super less likely nowadays buy putting on on screen buttons nahhhhh mannnn
I’ve already had a 5″ phone with 3k mah battery! So 5.5 with 3k is very mediocre. 5.5″ should have 5k battery like the 360 n4s to be impressive.
Are you crazy?
You don’t like it because it’s battery is not what you want?
It’s only $130!!!
C’mon, be real, you expect it to have a huge battery for $130?
Some people just can’t get over themselves, trying to be that guy.
It could have mediocre battery life it could have battery life better than your 5″ phone. Battery life is determined by a lot more than the mAh number such as software, battery type, display tech, audio/camera components, battery quality etc. I can point to numerous phones with 3KmAh that have drastically different battery life.
BALCO!!! didnt i tell you to stop being rational >:(
It’s one of my biggest flaws!
What you said is true balco. But we are talking about raw specs here. There’s no guarantee that this new manufacturer has good software. Normally, the weakest point of a Chinese phone from a Chinese brand is its software, even for famous brands like Huawei, OPPO and such. Smaller Chinese manufacturers rarely have enough resources to spare for software development so they have to depend on raw specs to sell their phone. And for the raw specs of this phone, I say it unimpressed at best and mediocre at least! Lenovo k3 note has removable 3k mah battery since some years ago!
type c plz
Why do they persist on knocking out these mediocre phones? Can we really get excited about another generic phone that’s just going to look the same and have the same low end specs? And most likely receive no support and updates what’s so ever? Who’s actually buying these?
Really, you can’t see it that some people can’t afford a jacked up phone?
You are not the only person in this world, buddy.
Get real.
The fact it’s only $130, with the so far released specs. is pretty amazing.
For that matter, name any Chinese phone that has regular updates, including security updates.
Updates to fix a crappy OS like OOS, doesn’t count. Especially since it was released full of bugs to begin with.
Most of the Chinese phones never get updated, for a reason. They want you to waste your money on a newer model with newer Android.
I think you just contradicted your self there buddy! You think this phone is amazing for $130 but then say Chinese phones never update because they want you to waste your money to buy a newer model? Well what’s the point in buying it in the first place! And if someone is on a budget, why buy a phone that’s never going to get updated ? You sound stupid pal! And just to let you know you don’t need to spend a lot! I’ve just bought the qiku N4S for $220 you get the helio x20 , 4 gb RAM , 32 gb of storage and a SD card, finger print scanner all metal design, a 5000 mAh battery and I’ve already received 3 updates to improve stability!!! All this for an extra $90 then the $130 phone you talking about pal! I think you need to get real! And all people need to do is a bit of research before buying! And you don’t need to spend alot!
Contradicted myself? How is the lack of updates have anything to do with the $130 price!!!????
Sure you found another phone for $90 more that has the 5000mah battery. But that is $90 MORE!! How can you expect a $130 phone to have those same specs.!!!!!!! Stupid, ignorant, insane comments shows you have no idea what you are talking about.
Hahaha you fool , $130 for pretty amazing specs you said ! You really think that! Wait until all the resellers add there $ on to the price! And by the time its actually released, them not so amazing specs will even be more not so amazing!LOL and about them updates your the one that said Chinese companies don’t release updates so you go out and by a newer model ! You must think we’re all loaded buy a phone no update so throw it away buy a newer model and repeat, Lol you idiot!
You seem to assume a lot in your response, are you crazy?
I personally would not do that or even recommend doing that.
I just said that is the reason behind them never doing updates.
Where do you get off saying that re-sellers would add costs at all?
Damn near all Chinese manufacturers sell their phone directly to the consumer.
Another sign of an ignorant person, is resorting to name calling.
Are you twelve years old, it would seem so from your post?
Do you actually read what you write? So it’s o.k for you to comment to someone stupid and insane ? But you don’t like it when someone defends them self back? And at the end of the day I didn’t jump on someone else’s comment I made my own comment about the article I read, if you didn’t like it, I suggest you scroll past next time! You actually went out you way to comment on it and because I don’t agree with you your being a dick! Stop trolling other people comments and opinions and jog on you little prick!
More budget phones are sold every year than flagships. Tens of millions of people are buying phones like this. As for support that can be shaky even with name brands.
nice conversation you and chuck jones had here but, but i must remind you that YOU OWE ME SOMETHING….. tell me where you bought the qiku N4S pleasssssssse!!! was it through liaow? thats the only place i found but im unsure whether to use such a site 🙂
Hi Assefa yes I got mine from liaow and yes they are 100% genuine and trustworthy I have brought two phones from them so far ! My Qiku N4S only took 4 days to deliver from ordering it and getting it here in the u.k by DHL delivery. Last year I brought a IUNI U3 and that took about the same time. I emailed them first to make sure Qiku was in stock then paid by pay pal then once confirmed payment received I got shipping number straight away then 3 days later got my new phone I definitely recommend them! If you wanna now anything about the N4S I’ll be happy to answer and questions.
thanks, whats the battery life your average screen on time, does google play services crash often? and the camera does it focus quicly like how i see in some reviews and you said your getting software updates right? and what about the charge time, do you have a quick charger or just the standard one, Also does the camera have a manual mode, how much ram is available to the user, is 360 os heavy or more on the lighter side?
Hi Assefa sorry for the late reply I’ve been at work, so to start with the os is quite light most Chinese apps can be uninstalled or disabled, yes had 3 update so far but can’t read Chinese so not sorry what was updated or improvements were lol and I’ve never had a problem with Google play services crashing , out of the 4 gb ram there is always 1.8 to 2.1 available, camera has lots of modes including manual mode and camera focuses pretty quick. So one of the reasons I brought this phone is the 5000mah battery I work 12 hours so if I forget to charge it I wanted to make sure I’ve got enough battery for the next day when I’m at work until I come home, so far I can get two days out of the phone with medium use, if I’m not at work the phone with last all day with heavy usage and best of all the phone does come with quick charge ! I’ve not timed it exactly but when your down to 15% it takes about 45 to an hour to fully charge. Hope that helps if there’s anything else let me know can’t recommend this phone enough!
you are my hero thanks. so liaow sends the quick charge in the box or do you have to buy it seperately woooooow i can even adjust the shutter speeeed thats fantastic! you know liao seems pretty good then i was going to get the cool 1 dual but i was worried about resllers putting on the multi language rom and messing up OTA updates the cool 1 dual has no memory card slot so i was a bit worried i might just put out the extra dough and get this
Yes you get quick charger and ear buds in box with phone, like I said I’ve never had a problem with liaow in fact it’s the only place I’ll buy from now! And I can’t fault this phone you get alot for you money!
Amoled=gamble Lenovo went for amoled and on screen buttons on the p2 they are just asking for burn in
Every AMOLED I ever used had unnatural colors, even those from Samsung. Personally I prefer LCD but it wouldn’t keep me buying from a phone.
i liked the lenovo p2 its not necessarily that it would stop me its just that it has onscreen buttons ON an amoled that scares me with that burn in chance, burn ins are super less likely nowadays buy putting on on screen buttons nahhhhh mannnn
type c plz
Andi, I didn’t know where to put this, but I found a xiaomi ad in a music video (it’s at the end)
here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4UfDbHatpk
I first saw it on KuWo when watching music videos
Andi, I didn’t know where to put this, but I found a xiaomi ad in a music video (it’s at the end)
here:
I first saw it on KuWo when watching music videos