#NotComingToIndia: Xiaomi Mi 5s, Mi 5s Plus, Mi Note 2 & Mi MIX


Xiaomi Mi Note 2 specifications: OLED display

After the numerous launches in the past month, i.e. Xiaomi Mi 5s, Mi 5s PlusMi Note 2 and Mi MIX; Xiaomi’s Vice President for global operations told to the media that none of their latest flagship smartphones will be coming to India. But what are the reasons of such a drastic decision?

Hugo Barra told Pcmag “The reason why is very simple to explain. Our portfolio in India is very small. We focus on having one flagship every year, which (for now) is Mi 5. From a portfolio perspective, we have one flagship a year in India”. He also said he hopes for the situation to get better next year.

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This decision comes after the very low sale numbers of the past Xiaomi Mi 5 and Mi 4 launched earlier this year, which haven’t done as well as other cheaper budget Xiaomi devices.

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Indeed, smartphone buyers in India prefer more affordable handsets, just like the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 which has had a huge success in that market, along with the Redmi 3s and Redmi 3s Prime, also received very positively.

Mi Home

This change of direction doesn’t stop Xiaomi from investing in India, though. They’re still going to create their “experience centers” called Mi Home in the Asian country.

What are your thoughts on the matter? Are you from in India and were interested in any of their flagship devices? Let us know in the comments below

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80 Comments

  1. Nishikanta
    October 27, 2016

    brilliant decision….. People want alternatives from high priced phones at a reasonable price point. Mi seemed first choice. But then people realized Mi just dumps low spec phones in india. MI5 which is their flagship only sell 32Gb option not even 64GB . There is growing class of young people who want better devices with max 35k INR as budget. Oneplus realized this and reaping the benefits. even I saw sales executives prefer Oneplus as primary phone ditching Samsung, Sony LG etc. with this strategy Mi will always remain 2nd choice. Same applies to ZTE Nubia. Lenovo on other hand strikes a good balance with zuk and K series. Mi has put their collar up and showing Indians that they are not worth a market for mi niche devices. People will move on and you will soon feel the pinch.

    • sangram
      October 27, 2016

      Very true!!!

    • lildwell
      October 28, 2016

      That’s bs. The problem is that people with money to spend are self conscious idiots and want to by what “seems” premium. Xiaomi released the redmi series. These inexpensive phones have made the brand into a cheap brand. Most idiots with “money” don’t want to be seen with what their peers deem as a “cheap” brand. Oneplus has only released expensive flagships so now their perception is that of a “premium” brand. Xiaomi is doing the right thing because what they will end up doing is move cheap redmi phones in mass and that will generate a heafty profit. They might as well remove their flagships all together and focus on moving mass quantities

      • Aman
        October 28, 2016

        You seems butt hurt by any indian who is expressing his opinion here. You know what we give people like you? BURNOL. Google it and buy some. Apply where your are burnt. Lol :)))

        • lildwell
          October 28, 2016

          Lol. Sure guy. I just like pointing out stupidity

          • Nishikanta
            October 28, 2016

            Lidwell I did not use any offensive language. Hope you restrain yourself too

            • lildwell
              October 28, 2016

              Unlike the rest of these nutcases, you actually discussed the topic instead of being butthurt and resorting to name calling. For that, I respect you.

      • Nishikanta
        October 28, 2016

        I don’t agree. There different segments of Indian market . if Indians are so price sensitive apple,Sony,Samsung or lg may not even exist in India. The fact is xiomi emerged as a alternative to high priced phones with latest hw and affordable price. Hence people loved it. Initial days redmi was a hit among young people . Then a budding class of earning professional liked it but they want sonthing niche at least on hw. But looking at recent trends of xiaomi it was dissapointing say mi Max. A 6.4 inch device is not at all handy to carry. Many people prefer 5 to 5.5 inch phones. One plus set the tone right with high end specs and vanila android of course great camera and storage. They offerd a consiatant price point too and understood the 35k barrier. Xiomi on the other hand gone all wrong whats the point of a device with 32gb storage people will not buy it as they get a older flagship like g4 or z3 in same range.Now xiaomi complaining not doing well . how come you do well when you don’t undetand the dynamics. On top look the audacity saying Indian s not worth niche devices. On my thought mi note 2 64 gb at 30k would have been a hot cake. It would have xiaomi established as premium brand as Samsung . its a wrong move and it going to cost them

        • lildwell
          October 28, 2016

          In general you have 3 different makers in a market place. The essential. The casual. The enthusiasts. The essential buy whatever they can afford because they need a device. The casual has money to spend. The enthusiast is self explanatory. The issue is that the enthusiast and casual market overlap but are completely different. The casual is the bulk of high end niche markets. The issue is that they don’t care a thing about specs. A lot of them dont know the different CE between a SD 650 or an sd820. They simply don’t care. This is why Apple and oppo are doing so well. They are offering phones that are nowhere near their prices spec wise yet they are doing well. This is basic universal human psychology. The Indian market is worth niche devices but xiaomi blew that chance when they dropped the redmi line. They are now known amongst casuals as that cheap phone that everybody has so they might as well save money and run with it.

          Tldr For example there is a Walmart. Across the street there is a saks fifth avenue or expensive boutique. The Walmart is selling cheap clothes. Very few people is going to buy a very expensive outfit from the Walmart because Walmart is where they sell the cheap clothes.

        • lildwell
          October 28, 2016

          The mi mix with 16gb at 35k with limited quantities and never selling the redmi series to begin with would’ve made xiaomi into how apple is perceived in the states. If you want to appear like you are the one ahead of fashion, tech, and all trends in general then you’d have to have one. That’s 100 times more important than specs. Apple, Oppo, Samsung have proven this already in every single market they’ve touched.

  2. Algates
    October 27, 2016

    Plz don’t tell me that u r going to sell mi5s in 2016 and MI note 2 in 2017. Wat a foolish decision. Even if u r willing to sell these flagships next year, no one will ready to buy those outdated mobiles. Such a wise decision, the name xiaomi will eventually fades away from Indian market. Good for us..

    • lildwell
      October 28, 2016

      Actually, if xiaomi was smart, they’d stop selling flagships to India as a whole and focus on moving mass quantities of redmi phones. They’ll dominate the marker by sheer numbers alone.

  3. vijay sud
    October 27, 2016

    Well Big M is the reason..but the gap left by Mi will be filled up by likes OnePlus, Lenovo and others. After all Xiaomi has to realise the basic concept of marketing, when u upgrade from Mi RMN3, if Xiaomi does not have a flagship handy n ready, Indians will abandon the Xiaomi eco system altogether. And migrate to others. But perhaps they will learn their lessons. U can’t run a company on just 2 products i.e. RMN 3 and Redmi 3, some one is going to come and bust their 2 product inflated ass soon enough.

    • lildwell
      October 28, 2016

      Apple and oneplus run their company on one to two devices. You sound as though you don’t understand basic marketing or psychology.

  4. princerohith
    October 27, 2016

    Its not that we don’t buy premium devices if that is the case apple and google pixel wont concentrate on INDIAn market. Its about the attitude of Mi towards indian market they never bring the top end of their premium devices to INDIA and even though they bring the base versions it’s not immediate after china launch. When you offer the base version of your premium devices for the top end price in china who would buy your dumping shit and after their life cycle in china. We are not dumb asses like you we know for what we have to spend and how much. it won’t understand to your crab brain barra. Now it has been by your decision that xioami always use indian market for dumping only.

    • lildwell
      October 28, 2016

      But you are dumbasses. All humans are dumbasses. You are so off about what’s going on its mind boggling. Assefa Hanson’s post hits the nail on the head.

      • princerohith
        November 7, 2016

        Not as dumb as you ass fckuers ,

        • lildwell
          November 8, 2016

          You, in particular, are a dumbass because you don’t understand basic marketing and psychology. Look at apple, Oppo, Oneplus, etc. Look outside of the cellphone market at fashion brands like Jordan, Nike, Ralph Lauren, etc. They all have the same thing in common. They all sell expensive shit. Most of their products are not worth the price. The average, middle class consumer doesn’t care about specs. They care about the brand. They care about exclusivity. The sooner people realise this the sooner things of this nature can be discussed.

          • princerohith
            November 10, 2016

            Making an opinion yourself without any knowledge of what we think and what we evaluate about the product , making a decision of community or people from a region are the real dumb asses like you. Yes we value brand anyone in the world will value some brands. what about apple Do you think is that worth paying that bucks paying for the specs compared to android smartphones???? Some say yes some say no here. Oneplus has a huge success with OP3 in INDIA. We are better than you in choosing Value for money things both in expensive and budget segments without brand issues. When the MI provided budget phones with great specs we welcomed them. When they provided the shit with no value for money devices it got rejected. We better no people like you and companies like mi are blind. Look at oneplus with op3 they alomost captured the high end segment market of samsung here in india breaking the brand barrier. Do some research before you bark otherwise shut your ass and keep calm

            • lildwell
              November 11, 2016

              That mess of a comment missed the point entirely. I mentioned Oneplus in my argument you dope. How many low budget smart phones does oneplus have huh? None. Zip. Nada. Its not a decision about a people or community Ami don’t know about. Its about the human race. In the end, the majority of differences between communities are based mostly in semantics. Human behavior follows the same basic principals developed during evolution.

              Secondly, nothing in your statement directly conflicts with what I said. You’re just spewing your opinion without acknowloging basic knowledge of psychology or marketing technique.

              Thirdly, you fail to understand the differences of markets. Not markets as in different areas. Markets as in groups of people within said areas. I’ve said it earlier. Inside a capitalist system with a decent sized middle class you have 3 sets of people. You have the people that base their purchases on cost. You have the casual market. You have the enthusiast market. You and I are enthusiats. The majority of people that buy these kinds of products are casuals. Casuals simply don’t care about specs. Most don’t know what specs are. What you and enthusiast around the world must understand is that we are in the minority. That statement covers every market of every area that has ever existed in capitalism. You mention on plus like its proof of your theories without acknologing the marketing behind oneplus. They constantly leaked photos. They constantly attacked their competition. This built hype. Have you ever heard ofbhype before? When the hype got great they announced the invitations system. You remember that? What did that do? That made people feel blessed when they saw that invitation letter in the mail and customers immediately purchased a product from a virgin company site unseen. This is called exclusivity. Then, in all honesty, the initial phone wasn’t that great price to spec wise. It was also buggy and quite a few people complained about overheating. Lastly, how many devices have Oneplus released? Four. How many were midrange? One. This has established the brand as a premium brand. That is how Oneplus established its market.

              Xiaomi hasn’t really pushed phones with bad specs. The only high end phone they released over there was the Mi 5 and to be honest it wasn’t that bad compared to what and how apple and other people priced their phones. If what you said was true Oppo wouldve been run out of business.

            • princerohith
              November 13, 2016

              I am revealing the real world theories only to you buddy, Not speaking from outside INDIA. I know the market strategies and three groups of people around me well better than you. yes you r right 3 years ago when people look for only brand and they don’t know about the specs. Even there are people in small towns and villages who don’t know how to use a IPHONE and they own latest iphones. People here have got better than you think and they are thinking about the specs. Yes Mi5 is better device but they priced it higher without knowing that we people know there is better version which can be available for the same. When the company don’t care about bringing the best version for the same price of international availability why one here should encourage their flagships. I am just letting you know that the market strategy of MI over the launch of new flagships in INDiA is completely a wrong one and they judged it very poorly.

            • lildwell
              November 13, 2016

              People in the top cell phone centers in the world aren’t even thinking about specs. Its simple human psychology. I’m glad that the enthusiast community is growing but I doubt if it will break 1% of the cell phone owners population. Its barely 1% of the already established U.S. cell phone population. What I am saying is something that the majority of enthusiasts have to deal with. The majority of any given population is not following tech news. Let alone following cell phone news and releases. You have to start thing objectively. Not anecdotally. I hang around people that understand technology bit that’s because human beings tend to hang around people with similar interests. That doesn’t mean everybody in my town understands technology. Your thought process is flawed.

            • lildwell
              November 13, 2016

              And you are right. The mi launching strategy is wrong. They should’ve never released the redmi series to begin with and need to either a) pull all of their flagships out of the market and just control the lower end market using the already established redmi line. Or b) withdraw entirely and wait a couple of years to re-enter the market. This way they can change their image and become known for their flagship offerings.

  5. Nishikanta
    October 28, 2016

    brilliant decision….. People want alternatives from high priced phones at a reasonable price point. Mi seemed first choice. But then people realized Mi just dumps low spec phones in india. MI5 which is their flagship only sell 32Gb option not even 64GB . There is growing class of young people who want better devices with max 35k INR as budget. Oneplus realized this and reaping the benefits. even I saw sales executives prefer Oneplus as primary phone ditching Samsung, Sony LG etc. with this strategy Mi will always remain 2nd choice. Same applies to ZTE Nubia. Lenovo on other hand strikes a good balance with zuk and K series. Mi has put their collar up and showing Indians that they are not worth a market for mi niche devices. People will move on and you will soon feel the pinch.

    • sangram
      October 28, 2016

      Very true!!!

    • lildwell
      October 28, 2016

      That’s bs. The problem is that people with money to spend are self conscious idiots and want to by what “seems” premium. Xiaomi released the redmi series. These inexpensive phones have made the brand into a cheap brand. Most idiots with “money” don’t want to be seen with what their peers deem as a “cheap” brand. Oneplus has only released expensive flagships so now their perception is that of a “premium” brand. Xiaomi is doing the right thing because what they will end up doing is move cheap redmi phones in mass and that will generate a heafty profit. They might as well remove their flagships all together and focus on moving mass quantities

    • Aman
      October 28, 2016

      You seems butt hurt by any indian who is expressing his opinion here. You know what we give people like you? BURNOL. Google it and buy some. Apply where your are burnt. Lol :)))

    • lildwell
      October 28, 2016

      Lol. Sure guy. I just like pointing out stupidity. Why don’t you Google the term ad hominem before sounding like an idiot.

    • Nishikanta
      October 29, 2016

      I don’t agree. There different segments of Indian market . if Indians are so price sensitive apple,Sony,Samsung or lg may not even exist in India. The fact is xiomi emerged as a alternative to high priced phones with latest hw and affordable price. Hence people loved it. Initial days redmi was a hit among young people . Then a budding class of earning professional liked it but they want sonthing niche at least on hw. But looking at recent trends of xiaomi it was dissapointing say mi Max. A 6.4 inch device is not at all handy to carry. Many people prefer 5 to 5.5 inch phones. One plus set the tone right with high end specs and vanila android of course great camera and storage. They offerd a consiatant price point too and understood the 35k barrier. Xiomi on the other hand gone all wrong whats the point of a device with 32gb storage people will not buy it as they get a older flagship like g4 or z3 in same range.Now xiaomi complaining not doing well . how come you do well when you don’t undetand the dynamics. On top look the audacity saying Indian s not worth niche devices. On my thought mi note 2 64 gb at 30k would have been a hot cake. It would have xiaomi established as premium brand as Samsung . its a wrong move and it going to cost them

    • Nishikanta
      October 29, 2016

      Lidwell I did not use any offensive language. Hope you restrain yourself too

    • lildwell
      October 29, 2016

      In general you have 3 different makers in a market place. The essential. The casual. The enthusiasts. The essential buy whatever they can afford because they need a device. The casual has money to spend. The enthusiast is self explanatory. The issue is that the enthusiast and casual market overlap but are completely different. The casual is the bulk of high end niche markets. The issue is that they don’t care a thing about specs. A lot of them dont know the different CE between a SD 650 or an sd820. They dint care about vanilla android either. They simply don’t care. This is why Apple and oppo are doing so well. What oneplus really did was sell 1 expensive phone. Thats it. That’s the only real difference. The o+2 for example has many bugs and it overhears but nobody really cares because it’s one plus. A hot new phone brand that was constantly takes about that you could only purchase through an exclusive invite system. They drummed up hype and exclusivity. Things that middle class people in capitalist systems fall for. This is basic universal human psychology. The Indian market is worth niche devices but xiaomi blew that chance when they dropped the redmi line. They are now known amongst casuals as that cheap phone that everybody has so they might as well save money and run with it.

      Tldr For example there is a Walmart. Across the street there is a saks fifth avenue or expensive boutique. The Walmart is selling cheap clothes. Very few people is going to buy a very expensive outfit from the Walmart because Walmart is where they sell the cheap clothes.

    • lildwell
      October 29, 2016

      The mi mix with 16gb at 35k with limited quantities and never selling the redmi series to begin with would’ve made xiaomi into how apple is perceived in the states. If you want to appear like you are the one ahead of fashion, tech, and all trends in general then you’d have to have one. That’s 100 times more important than specs. Apple, Oppo, Samsung have proven this already in every single market they’ve touched.

    • lildwell
      October 29, 2016

      Unlike the rest of these nutcases, you actually discussed the topic instead of being butthurt and resorting to name calling. For that, I respect you.

  6. AshrafChopan
    October 28, 2016

    It is true Indians love Xiaomi and it is also true that Mi 5 was not received as well as say, Redmi note 3. But that doesn’t mean that Indians won’t buy higher end phones. Look at OnePlus 3, it is a huge hit in India and it is priced higher than Mi 5. No doubt Mi 5 is a thing of beauty and craftsmanship and it deserved more but come on Mi, such can things happen to anything.
    By not launching these flagships in India, Xiaomi is treating us like second class customers. It reflects very very badly on Xiaomi. Xiaomi will be missing a huge opportunity and the likes of Opportunity, Vivo and LeEco will crush Mi in the long run in burgeoning Indian market.

    It is not just about business/splendid smartphones but about Trust and Respect!!!

  7. Algates
    October 28, 2016

    Plz don’t tell me that u r going to sell mi5s in 2016 and MI note 2 in 2017. Wat a foolish decision. Even if u r willing to sell these flagships next year, no one will ready to buy those outdated mobiles. Such a wise decision, the name xiaomi will eventually fades away from Indian market. Good for us..

    • lildwell
      October 28, 2016

      Actually, if xiaomi was smart, they’d stop selling flagships to India as a whole and focus on moving mass quantities of redmi phones. They’ll dominate the marker by sheer numbers alone.

  8. Assefa Hanson
    October 28, 2016

    good idea india is too price sensitive they worship the redmi note 3 and this costs xiaomi their brand name because now most people will associate that cheapness with the entire brand they will say id rather get a samsung for 40k rupees, people below talking about “look at oneplus”

    is clueless on how marketing works oneplus has only produced flagship devices with the exception of the oneplus x so the image of one plus stays a premium one this is also why oppo is doing great in india

    once again it is the juice of irony customers claim they want cheapness but they are hypocrites these same people will look down on the brand and then get an expensive phone from another “royal” brand ive said this over and over its just facts and truths are always inferior to perception look at apple even though they never pioneered the design for the iphone 7 people still call the meizu pro 6 an imitation

    thats right because iphone has the percieved image as the leader and if tomorrow apple launches their version of the mi mix the world will say apple did it first launching premium phones in india is an extremely bad idea

    • lildwell
      October 28, 2016

      If they want to go for the high end market they could withdraw for a period and relaunch with mostly premium devices. Adidas did this in the U.S. with their sneakers and they are gaining momentum from it.

      • Assefa Hanson
        October 29, 2016

        sounds like a good marketing move

  9. vijay sud
    October 28, 2016

    Well Big M is the reason..but the gap left by Mi will be filled up by likes OnePlus, Lenovo and others. After all Xiaomi has to realise the basic concept of marketing, when u upgrade from Mi RMN3, if Xiaomi does not have a flagship handy n ready, Indians will abandon the Xiaomi eco system altogether. And migrate to others. But perhaps they will learn their lessons. U can’t run a company on just 2 products i.e. RMN 3 and Redmi 3, some one is going to come and bust their 2 product inflated ass soon enough.

    • lildwell
      October 28, 2016

      Apple and oneplus run their company on one to two devices. You sound as though you don’t understand basic marketing or psychology.

  10. princerohith
    October 28, 2016

    Its not that we don’t buy premium devices if that is the case apple and google pixel wont concentrate on INDIAn market. Its about the attitude of Mi towards indian market they never bring the top end of their premium devices to INDIA and even though they bring the base versions it’s not immediate after china launch. When you offer the base version of your premium devices for the top end price in china who would buy your dumping shit and after their life cycle in china.Look at oneplus 3 awesome phone launched in india almost same time as in china with same price( proud owner of OP3). We are not dumb asses like you we know for what we have to spend and how much. it won’t understand to your crab brain barra. Now it has been by your decision that xioami always use indian market for dumping only.

    • lildwell
      October 28, 2016

      But you are dumbasses. All humans are dumbasses. You are so off about what’s going on its mind boggling. Assefa Hanson’s post hits the nail on the head.

    • princerohith
      November 8, 2016

      Not as dumb as you ass fckuers ,

    • lildwell
      November 8, 2016

      You, in particular, are a dumbass because you don’t understand basic marketing and psychology. Look at apple, Oppo, Oneplus, etc. Look outside of the cellphone market at fashion brands like Jordan, Nike, Ralph Lauren, etc. They all have the same thing in common. They all sell expensive shit. Most of their products are not worth the price. The average, middle class consumer doesn’t care about specs. They care about the brand. They care about exclusivity. The sooner people realise this the sooner things of this nature can be discussed. Companies have gone bankrupt listening to blind enthusiasts.

    • princerohith
      November 11, 2016

      Making an opinion yourself without any knowledge of what we think and what we evaluate about the product , making a decision of community or people from a region are the real dumb asses like you. Yes we value brand anyone in the world will value some brands. what about apple Do you think is that worth paying that bucks paying for the specs compared to android smartphones???? Some say yes some say no here. Oneplus has a huge success with OP3 in INDIA. We are better than you in choosing Value for money things both in expensive and budget segments without brand issues. When the MI provided budget phones with great specs we welcomed them. When they provided the shit with no value for money devices it got rejected. We better no people like you and companies like mi are blind. Look at oneplus with op3 they alomost captured the high end segment market of samsung here in india breaking the brand barrier. Do some research before you bark otherwise shut your ass and keep calm

    • lildwell
      November 12, 2016

      That mess of a comment missed the point entirely. I mentioned Oneplus in my argument you dope. How many low budget smart phones does oneplus have huh? None. Zip. Nada. Its not a decision about a people or community Ami don’t know about. Its about the human race. In the end, the majority of differences between communities are based mostly in semantics. Human behavior follows the same basic principals developed during evolution.

      Secondly, nothing in your statement directly conflicts with what I said. You’re just spewing your opinion without acknowloging basic knowledge of psychology or marketing technique.

      Thirdly, you fail to understand the differences of markets. Not markets as in different areas. Markets as in groups of people within said areas. I’ve said it earlier. Inside a capitalist system with a decent sized middle class you have 3 sets of people. You have the people that base their purchases on cost. You have the casual market. You have the enthusiast market. You and I are enthusiats. The majority of people that buy these kinds of products are casuals. Casuals simply don’t care about specs. Most don’t know what specs are. What you and enthusiast around the world must understand is that we are in the minority. That statement covers every market of every area that has ever existed in capitalism. You mention on plus like its proof of your theories without acknologing the marketing behind oneplus. They constantly leaked photos. They constantly attacked their competition. This built hype. Have you ever heard ofbhype before? When the hype got great they announced the invitations system. You remember that? What did that do? That made people feel blessed when they saw that invitation letter in the mail and customers immediately purchased a product from a virgin company site unseen. This is called exclusivity. Then, in all honesty, the initial phone wasn’t that great price to spec wise. It was also buggy and quite a few people complained about overheating. Lastly, how many devices have Oneplus released? Four. How many were midrange? One. This has established the brand as a premium brand. That is how Oneplus established its market.

      Xiaomi hasn’t really pushed phones with bad specs. The only high end phone they released over there was the Mi 5 and to be honest it wasn’t that bad compared to what and how apple and other people priced their phones. If what you said was true Oppo wouldve been run out of business. They have solid numbers in India. You need to leave your bubble and step out into the real world.

    • princerohith
      November 14, 2016

      I am revealing the real world theories only to you buddy, Not speaking from outside INDIA. I know the market strategies and three groups of people around me well better than you. yes you r right 3 years ago when people look for only brand and they don’t know about the specs. Even there are people in small towns and villages who don’t know how to use a IPHONE and they own latest iphones. People here have got better than you think and they are thinking about the specs. Yes Mi5 is better device but they priced it higher without knowing that we people know there is better version which can be available for the same. When the company don’t care about bringing the best version for the same price of international availability why one here should encourage their flagships. I am just letting you know that the market strategy of MI over the launch of new flagships in INDiA is completely a wrong one and they judged it very poorly.

    • lildwell
      November 14, 2016

      People in the top cell phone centers in the world aren’t even thinking about specs. Its simple human psychology. I’m glad that the enthusiast community is growing but I doubt if it will break 1% of the cell phone owners population. Its barely 1% of the already established U.S. cell phone population. What I am saying is something that the majority of enthusiasts have to deal with. The majority of any given population is not following tech news. Let alone following cell phone news and releases. You have to start thing objectively. Not anecdotally. I hang around people that understand technology bit that’s because human beings tend to hang around people with similar interests. That doesn’t mean everybody in my town understands technology. Your thought process is flawed.

    • lildwell
      November 14, 2016

      And you are right. The mi launching strategy is wrong. They should’ve never released the redmi series to begin with and need to either a) pull all of their flagships out of the market and just control the lower end market using the already established redmi line. Or b) withdraw entirely and wait a couple of years to re-enter the market. This way they can change their image and become known for their flagship offerings.

  11. Angry Mobile Nerd
    October 28, 2016

    Loving the backwards mentality.

  12. Angry Mobile Nerd
    October 28, 2016

    oh and just when you think GizChina couldn’t fit anymore ads on their site now I see a pop-up video ad by Epom in the bottom right corner.

    With all the mainstream mobile news sites now covering the big Chinese players (Xiaomi, Huawei, Oppo, etc…) I hope you guys have a plan B. If you do, I hope “put more ads on the site” wasn’t it because this looks like a step backwards and a cry for ad-cash.

    What’s next? Misleading ads that are disguised as story links?

  13. AshrafChopan
    October 28, 2016

    It is true Indians love Xiaomi and it is also true that Mi 5 was not received as well as say, Redmi note 3. But that doesn’t mean that Indians won’t buy higher end phones. Look at OnePlus 3, it is a huge hit in India and it is priced higher than Mi 5. No doubt Mi 5 is a thing of beauty and craftsmanship and it deserved more but come on Mi, such things can happen to anything.
    By not launching these flagships in India, Xiaomi is treating us like second class customers. It reflects very very badly on Xiaomi. Xiaomi will be missing a huge opportunity and the likes of Oppo, Vivo, Lenovo and LeEco will crush Mi in the long run in burgeoning Indian smartphone market.

    It is not just about business/splendid smartphones but about Trust and Respect!!!

  14. Assefa Hanson
    October 28, 2016

    good idea india is too price sensitive they worship the redmi note 3 and this costs xiaomi their brand name because now most people will associate that cheapness with the entire brand they will say id rather get a samsung for 40k rupees, people below talking about “look at oneplus”

    is clueless on how marketing works oneplus has only produced flagship devices with the exception of the oneplus x so the image of one plus stays a premium one this is also why oppo is doing great in india

    once again it is the juice of irony customers claim they want cheapness but they are hypocrites these same people will look down on the brand and then get an expensive phone from another “royal” brand ive said this over and over its just facts and truths are always inferior to perception look at apple even though they never pioneered the design for the iphone 7 people still call the meizu pro 6 an imitation

    thats right because iphone has the percieved image as the leader and if tomorrow apple launches their version of the mi mix the world will say apple did it first launching premium phones in india is an extremely bad idea no matter what the idians will say get a oneplus(oppo) even if it has heating issues and bugs like the oneplus 2 dont waste your time xiaomi

    what happened to xiaomi happened to asus asus made the mistake of selling cheap the first time and even though the zenfone 3 matches the oneplus 3 in real world performance it got the bad eye

    • lildwell
      October 29, 2016

      If they want to go for the high end market they could withdraw for a period and relaunch with mostly premium devices. Adidas did this in the U.S. with their sneakers and they are gaining momentum from it.

    • Assefa Hanson
      October 29, 2016

      sounds like a good marketing move

  15. Ashwin
    October 28, 2016

    if mi5 had been launched at 19999/-rs it might had more sales
    but at 25000 rs for 32 gb model without expandable memory is expensive
    64gb model at 25k could have been a reasonable buy

    oneplus 3 – 6gb and 64gb at 28k
    mi5 – 3gb and 32gb at 25k
    this says it all

  16. Angry Mobile Nerd
    October 28, 2016

    Loving the backwards mentality.

  17. Angry Mobile Nerd
    October 28, 2016

    oh and just when you think GizChina couldn’t fit anymore ads on their site now I see a pop-up video ad by Epom in the bottom right corner.

    With all the mainstream mobile news sites now covering the big Chinese players (Xiaomi, Huawei, Oppo, etc…) I hope you guys have a plan B. If you do, I hope “put more ads on the site” wasn’t it because this looks like a step backwards and a cry for ad-cash.

    What’s next? Misleading ads that are disguised as story links?

  18. Guest
    October 28, 2016

    if mi5 had been launched at 19999/-rs it might had more sales
    but at 25000 rs for 32 gb model without expandable memory is expensive
    64gb model at 25k could have been a reasonable buy

    oneplus 3 – 6gb and 64gb at 28k
    mi5 – 3gb and 32gb at 25k
    this says it all

  19. Raky_b
    October 28, 2016

    well, i don’t understand what could be an extra costs in bringing one more device on some market!? i mean, they are there (in India), so just bring 10 000 peaces of device, and if you don’t sell that much in a that big country, you can sell it online to another….what could you lose!?

    • lildwell
      October 28, 2016

      You would have to manufacture said devices. Then youvwould have to transport said devices. If they don’t sell you then have to transport them again to where you can. After waiting for them to sell in India they will become old and obsolete which means the leftover product would have to be sold at lower cost. That will either cut the profit margins smaller or cause them to lose money entirely.

  20. Hrishant
    October 28, 2016

    So much anger in the comments towards Indians – folks trying to decide what us Indians should and should not be entitled to, and how we should spend our dough.

    First up, @disqus_r1Q7QWXwnZ:disqus, with his / her ADHD powered, out-of-breath, punctuation-free blather that takes some serious effort to understand. I see a bunch of strawman arguments, but I really cannot draw a specific conclusion out of that mess, other than some obscure ideas of Meizu’s originality, people’s perception and of course, the price sensitivity of us Indians (or at least a majority of us). This could be an outstanding exercise in verbal reasoning for examination aspirants.

    I figure that the irony of folks commenting on premium devices and what not is that they do all that on a website like GizChina, geared mostly towards mid-tier Chinese devices that don’t cost too much.

    Next in line, spewing even more venom, is @lildwell:disqus.

    But you are dumbasses. All humans are dumbasses. You are so off about what’s going on its mind boggling. Assefa Hanson’s post hits the nail on the head.

    Given his vitriol, this particular troll could be the proverbial trailer park trash from some god forsaken inbreeding village in the US / UK / EU, living on welfare, while venting his anger online on the comments section of a nearly defunct Chinese mobile review website, calling out Indians as dumb-asses. It’s anybody’s guess what the mental makeup and value to society of such a person would be – one who possibly needs to be on meds to sound civil and make relatively more sense.

    The troll also has a number of comments without vitriol, ones that are seemingly more concerned with what marketing strategies Xiaomi and other companies should adopt in India, but they are all basically anger reactions to whatever other Indians are commenting on.

    Chances are this troll is in a place where they don’t get too many non-mainstream phones minus the LG / Samsung / Apple trio, or he has some major beef with Indians in general (racial hatred maybe? who knows).

    I’d say choke on it, but then what could be worse than a person who feels the need to do this, and actually finds the time and energy to hurl out obscenities and insults?

    Requesting all Indians GizChina readers to not participate in this particular comments section any further.

    • Ashutosh
      October 28, 2016

      Perfect! I’d say if participating, ignore the trolls and don’t engage.
      Side question: Kaafi achcchaa likhtaa hai, desi yaa firangi-desi?

    • lildwell
      October 28, 2016

      You’re entire point is one giant hypocritical ad hominem. You are the one throwing around baseless insults yet my comment is full of vitriol. Please. My comment has nothing to do with whether you are Indians. I couldn’t care less. The majority of your comments are simply stupid but I must be trailer trash to point out the various holes in your logic. Instead of crying like a baby, why don’t you actually argue the point that was made. I doubt any of you can…

  21. bojan radovanovic
    October 28, 2016

    well, i don’t understand what could be an extra costs in bringing one more device on some market!? i mean, they are there (in India), so just bring 10 000 peaces of device, and if you don’t sell that much in a that big country, you can sell it online to another….what could you lose!?

    • lildwell
      October 29, 2016

      You would have to manufacture said devices. Then youvwould have to transport said devices. If they don’t sell you then have to transport them again to where you can. After waiting for them to sell in India they will become old and obsolete which means the leftover product would have to be sold at lower cost. That will either cut the profit margins smaller or cause them to lose money entirely.

  22. Guest
    October 28, 2016

    So much anger in the comments towards Indians – folks trying to decide what us Indians should and should not be entitled to, and how we should spend our dough.

    First up, @disqus_r1Q7QWXwnZ:disqus, with his / her ADHD powered, out-of-breath, punctuation-free blather that takes some serious effort to understand. I see a bunch of strawman arguments, but I really cannot draw a specific conclusion out of that mess, other than some obscure ideas of Meizu’s originality, people’s perception and of course, the price sensitivity of us Indians (or at least a majority of us). This could be an outstanding exercise in verbal reasoning for examination aspirants.

    I figure that the irony of folks commenting on premium devices and what not is that they do all that on a website like GizChina, geared mostly towards mid-tier Chinese devices that don’t cost too much.

    Next in line, spewing even more venom, is @lildwell:disqus.

    “But you are dumbasses. All humans are dumbasses. You are so off about what’s going on its mind boggling. Assefa Hanson’s post hits the nail on the head.”

    Given his vitriol, this particular troll could be the proverbial trailer park trash from some god forsaken inbreeding village in the US / UK / EU, living on welfare, while venting his anger online on the comments section of a nearly defunct Chinese mobile review website, calling out Indians as dumb-asses. It’s anybody’s guess what the mental makeup and value to society of such a person would be – one who possibly needs to be on meds to sound civil and make relatively more sense.

    The troll also has a number of comments without vitriol, ones that are seemingly more concerned with what marketing strategies Xiaomi and other companies should adopt in India, but they are all basically anger reactions to whatever other Indians are commenting on.

    Chances are this troll is in a place where they don’t get too many non-mainstream phones minus the LG / Samsung / Apple trio, or he has some major beef with Indians in general (racial hatred maybe? who knows).

    I’d say choke on it, but then what could be worse than a person who feels the need to do this, and actually finds the time and energy to hurl out obscenities and insults?

    Requesting all Indians GizChina readers to not participate in this particular comments section any further.

    • Guest
      October 28, 2016

      Perfect! I’d say if participating, ignore the trolls and don’t engage.
      Side question: Kaafi achcchaa likhtaa hai, desi yaa firangi-desi?

    • lildwell
      October 28, 2016

      You’re entire point is one giant hypocritical ad hominem. You are the one throwing around baseless insults yet my comment is full of vitriol. Please. My comment has nothing to do with whether you are Indians. I couldn’t care less. The majority of your comments are simply stupid but I must be trailer trash to point out the various holes in your logic. Instead of crying like a baby, why don’t you actually argue the point that was made. I doubt any of you can.

      What’s really funny is that you speak about strawman while using one. You quoted my post out of context. The guy I was responding to said “we are not dumbasses”. I responded with yes you are because all humans are dumbasses. How you could associate me attacking indians by saying all humans are dumbasses is beyond me. Sounds like you’re playing a victim. Then, I explained why with an argument that you either ignore or simply can’t comprehend. And in the end nobody here can argue the point. The point is that xiaomi is doing the right thing by not bringing flagships to your area because they shot themselves in the foot by selling you the redmi series first. Now, the general perception is that xiaomi is a cheap brand. This isn’t just something special for the Indian marketplace. It happens in all markets because the average consumer buys products based on brand recognition. Not specs. Not hardware. Barely design. Simple brand recognition. But you’re probably going to ignore that and hide behind your played out insults.

  23. Guaire
    October 29, 2016

    As I understand if you are not Chinese you won’t get best Xiaomi phones. Also you won’t get the similar price cuts as Chinese customers.

    Right now the Mi5 starts from $237 in China, but their so called second home get the same from $345. Discounts on Mi5 starts months ago in China.

  24. Guaire
    October 29, 2016

    As I understand if you are not Chinese you won’t get best Xiaomi phones. Also you won’t get the similar price cuts as Chinese customers.

    Right now the Mi5 starts from $237 in China, but their so called second home get the same from $345. Discounts on Mi5 starts months ago in China.

  25. kkunal chaudhry
    October 29, 2016

    Hey you don’t know in India apple iPhone market is greater than China and other countries as Tim cook said what about Chinese fucking ass hole mobile

    • Beloved Chairman Lei Jun
      October 30, 2016

      Are you kidding me? Anyway redmi is enough

  26. kkunal chaudhry
    October 30, 2016

    Hey you don’t know in India apple iPhone market is greater than China and other countries as Tim cook said what about Chinese fucking ass hole mobile

    • Beloved Chairman Lei Jun
      October 30, 2016

      Are you kidding me? Anyway redmi is enough

  27. TechyKhan
    October 30, 2016

    This is a very very bad move by Xiaomi.
    Mi Note 2 will be a Blockbuster Device in India.The best part is Absence of Note 7.I think they missed the trick.They shoul launched the Mi Note 2 around 30K.It will be a great move.

  28. Guest
    October 30, 2016

    This is a very very bad move by Xiaomi.
    Mi Note 2 will be a Blockbuster Device in India.The best part is Absence of Note 7.I think they missed the trick.They shoul launched the Mi Note 2 around 30K.It will be a great move.

  29. gersonjunior87
    October 31, 2016

    Mi5, Redmi 3, Redmi 3S, Redmi 3Pro, Redmi Note 3, Redmi Note 3 Pro, Redmi Note 4, Redmi Pro, Mi5s, Mi5s Plus, Mi Max…

    Note only in India. Please Xiaomi, release (only) a 4-6 smartphone per year!

  30. gersonjunior87
    October 31, 2016

    Mi4s, Mi5, Redmi 3, Redmi 3S, Redmi 3Pro, Redmi Note 3, Redmi Note 3 Pro, Redmi Note 4, Redmi Pro, Mi Max, Mi5s, Mi5s Plus, Mi Mix…

    Note only in India. Please Xiaomi, release (only) a 4-6 smartphone per year!