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59 Comments

  1. ThinkOutsideTheBox
    ThinkOutsideTheBox October 31, 2012 at 10:45 am .

    Get ready for the comment wars, Andi, LoL. There are 2 other Chinese Quad Core phones available right now online called the “Lenovo Lephone K860″ with 5″ screen for $360, and the “ZTE U985 Grand Era” 4.5″ IPS Display for $365.

    The main reason I’m going with the Nexus 4 personally, is because I can use 4G on this cheap phone, and it’s guaranteed to be in stock for my by Christmas. Another thing that caught my eye with the Nexus 4 is that it has “Slimport” technology.

    1. halid
      halid November 9, 2012 at 7:59 pm .

      Xiaomi is also “4g” capable. You meant hspa right? I am more intrigued by xiaomi recording 90fps in 1080p. Thats amazing considering other high end phones only go up to 30fps. I am in usa so nexus for me.

    2. felix
      felix December 12, 2012 at 11:00 am .

      haha, in stock before Christmas ? Impossible :)

  2. Andrea
    Andrea October 31, 2012 at 10:49 am .

    Let me reuse your words :D

    “Personally I don’t think there is much of a debate over which to buy”: I totally agree with you! I’d go over the nexus all the way because of the community, support and updates! Do not forget availability for customers all over the world, warranty, build quality and everything I can imagine goes towards the nexus…

    1. PeterP
      PeterP October 31, 2012 at 11:14 am .

      Got to agree with the support and community comment.
      This makes it a complete no brainer for the Nexus 4. Shame it doesn’t have a better spec, maybe there will be a Nexus 4 Pro version out with dual sim, microsd slot, 1080p screen, 13mp HDR camera. The nexus 4 is a pretty mid market affair IMHO.

    2. PeterP
      PeterP October 31, 2012 at 11:17 am .

      Forgot to say, really needs LTE as well.

      1. ThinkOutsideTheBox
        ThinkOutsideTheBox October 31, 2012 at 1:13 pm .

        I don’t think LTE is needed, at least for me it’s not, because with T-Mobile in my area, their hspa+ 4G can match LTE speeds.

  3. Nucly
    Nucly October 31, 2012 at 10:51 am .

    Well this one is a nobrainer for me, I would go for Nexus… Specs wise are both almost the same, but Nexus has direct Google support – you get the latest Android updates when they are released.

    + Warranty.. 2 years in my country, so I dont have to pay the shipping…

    Xiaomi should cut their prices down or there will be no reason to buy the M2 anymore (for people outside china)

  4. Oscar
    Oscar October 31, 2012 at 10:51 am .

    And don’t forget the ZTE U950, Tegra 3 for $160 (although most of the other specs leave a bit to be desired).

    I think I’d go with the Nexus 4 as well. I can get it straight from Google. With the Xiaomi I’d have to deal with shady resellers. And that’s not to disparage all resellers, there certainly are good and honest ones. My only gripe with the N4 is the lack of expandable storage.

  5. Mustafa
    Mustafa October 31, 2012 at 11:04 am .

    Pure Android is the best, I prefer the Nexus 4 even if it was $100 more expensive.

  6. Lionel
    Lionel October 31, 2012 at 11:05 am .

    Hi Andi,
    The Xiaomi mi2 doesn’t have microSD card slot but is microSD card slot persent in Nexus 4 ?

    1. Ansgar
      Ansgar November 5, 2012 at 5:33 am .

      Both do not support micro sd card

  7. Amizz
    Amizz October 31, 2012 at 11:38 am .

    I would buy the Nexus 4!!!

  8. teja
    teja October 31, 2012 at 11:40 am .

    my first option is LG because XIAOMI (other premium Chinese brands) are like sour grapes for INDIAN , LG promised to release this device in INDIA from NOVEMBER a big THANKS to them . Samsung-Google ditched INDIAN phone lovers not releasing their nexus devices . Nexus 7 yet to release INDIA but entire WESTERN WORLD used it and heading to wards NEXUS 10 .

    one great news for INDIAN chinese phone lovers ZOPPO MOBILES got a tie up with another IT company in India to release its devices . zoppo 900 leader is available for INR 19000 ($358) and even mentioned they are releasing another 5 inch phone sooner .

  9. IgorP
    IgorP October 31, 2012 at 11:45 am .

    I think Nexus4 is the winner here and thats a no brainer. Latest flagship model directly from GOOGLE. Unlocked, with full support for latest 4.2 android with all the updates. Also N4 is rocking S4 Pro, winch is clocked at slightly higher 1.7Ghz.

  10. Caynan
    Caynan October 31, 2012 at 11:57 am .

    The only problem on the Nexus 4, to me, is the lack of micro sd, and what really sucks on buying a Xiaomi M2 is the waiting and since i`m not in china i have to pay at least $100 to a reseler, not counting the shipping cost and the taxes.

  11. abirjin
    abirjin October 31, 2012 at 12:42 pm .

    for international customers the xiaomi m2 would cost upward of $400 so the nexus 4 even has a price advantage

    1. Josh
      Josh December 6, 2012 at 3:26 am .

      yes,it’s too expensive for international customers,I discovered one reseller IBUYGOU,it’s US$399.99,i could buy the Nexus 4.

  12. abirjin
    abirjin October 31, 2012 at 12:44 pm .

    @Andi have you received any word on your jiayu g2 order?

  13. abirjin
    abirjin October 31, 2012 at 12:44 pm .

    g3 sorry typo

  14. sickgrinder
    sickgrinder October 31, 2012 at 12:48 pm .

    I always go with the underdog, but the Nexus has some pretty let down features one being no SD Card and no LTE (not like the speed really matters but if you are buying a phone from an american company, it should be expected to have all the bells and whistles that the american providers have) and last, only one sim card slot.

    The biggest selling points are though that the Nexus will always be updated to the latest and greatest Android while everyone else plays catch up with their modified ui’s or just plain laziness.

    Although I have been holding out to buy a new phone until the Nexus 4 came out, I went with another manufacture for less and got the features that i wanted.

    1. keenmay
      keenmay October 31, 2012 at 3:18 pm .

      ” I went with another manufacture for less and got the features that i wanted”
      What phone did you get?

      Both N4 and Mi2 have same let down lack feature for me. Though picking between the two is no brainier. For same reason as people already indicated, I would pick the N4. Besides even if you want a Mi-2, how the heck do you get one? and don’t forget risking on buying and shipping from China for international people.

      Off topic, any news on the rumored Nexus 5 (J butterfly)? It has everything I wanted, but can’t imagine it’s cheap though :( .

      1. sickgrinder
        sickgrinder October 31, 2012 at 4:06 pm .

        Well I originally ordered a G3, but canceled and got a Newman N1, granted the screen res is not super hd but in reality, it is just a phone.

  15. Sid
    Sid October 31, 2012 at 12:52 pm .

    This is a no-brainer. Nexus 4 is the obvious choice for almost every reason, availability, support, perceived quality, no hassle Google Play store…

    It is amazing how far these Chinese phones have come, but still, their main advantage is the price.

  16. Viktor
    Viktor October 31, 2012 at 12:58 pm .

    Nexus 4 by all means.

    The additional $30 is nothing compared to the support, availability, community, trust, etc. that Google and LG offer.

    Also, Nexus 4 has a barometric sensor, which can be used by hikers and paragliders.

    I just hate how Chinese manufacturers handle their customers.
    1. Why do i need to win a lottery to buy the phone?
    2. Why they can’t ship a phone 2-3 months after official market go-live?

    I hope that after Nexus 4 goes live, the Chinese phone prices will go down rapidly. They can’t compete with Google with the same or even with a 10-20% lower price. They would need to offer something near half the price of Nexus 4.

  17. Phantom Lord
    Phantom Lord October 31, 2012 at 1:01 pm .

    No one…because there is a 1 slot for SIM card. I prefer dual SIM with dual standby

    1. дядя Вася
      дядя Вася November 2, 2012 at 3:55 am .

      +100500

  18. Olivier
    Olivier October 31, 2012 at 1:02 pm .

    Xiaomi M2 !!!

  19. Inkflow
    Inkflow October 31, 2012 at 1:25 pm .

    The sad truth is that it is impossible to compare something you can’t buy with something you can! The mi2 will be widely available in about a year from now. For western people it is simply impossible to buy the mi2, especially not under $400.

    The Nexus 4 wins simply because there is no competition!

  20. Diqiu-Long
    Diqiu-Long October 31, 2012 at 2:19 pm .

    Well I think both phones are very good, I’m very impressed with the price off the Nexus 4, but LG on the hand doesnt have a good reputation with phones, but for a big part that was about there software.

    For me as I’m not living in the USA the price difference between Xiaomi M2 and Nexus 4 is bigger then calculated by Andi, because in the Netherlands we often get $ = €.

    So it would probably mean an Nexus 4 16GB would cost me about € 350 which is very good price for such an powerfull phone, but the Xiaomi M2 is still cheaper, its costed converted to euro about € 250.

    Personally I’m not sure which one is really better, I know the Xiaomi M2 got an really good camera, but I think the camera in Nexus 4 will be good to.

    But I’m not very happy with the limited space off 16GB in the Nexus 4, yes I know it should be enough, but because I use an smartphone to for taking snapshots and recording I think it might not be enough.

    The Xiaomi M2 atleast comes in 32GB, but I like the options to, Huawei Honor 2, Newman N1 those are both cheaper and they seem like an nice alternative although not as powerfull as the Xiaomi M2 or Nexus 4.

  21. Alex
    Alex October 31, 2012 at 3:57 pm .

    Does anyone else hate that the Nexus 4 uses on-screen buttons rather than having capacitive buttons built into the shell? imho, It limits viewing space and increases the chance of hitting one accidentally.

    1. thesniper321
      thesniper321 October 31, 2012 at 5:52 pm .

      I do hate that

      1. Francis.R.
        Francis.R. October 31, 2012 at 6:19 pm .

        I hate those on-screen buttons too for the same reason (besides those buttons look so big!). I’d prefer a dual sim but if I had to buy between a nexus or a xiomi I’d choose the xiaomi despite the nexus’s software upgrade because it drive me mad to think that I am not using every inch of the screen :P

    2. IgorP
      IgorP October 31, 2012 at 8:32 pm .

      I don’t like physical buttons, i think physical buttons are a thing of the past. moving parts break and stick out on a device with a smooth screen. i say NO to buttons:)

    3. David
      David November 2, 2012 at 6:23 am .

      Thank God someone else mentioned this! I thought I was all alone. I got rid of my Galaxy Nexus purely for this reason.

    4. nexus4_fan
      nexus4_fan November 24, 2012 at 11:11 am .

      Well, I also hated that but after many many many hours of searching I found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnadQLj0p0I

      It says about a hybrid tablet mode which I love, because in landscape the virtual buttons move to bottom and the remaining screen is pure 720P, so apps are in native resolution. Also, the on screen buttons get smaller and I just love that mode. It will sure come to Nexus 4 as well

    5. Nexus4
      Nexus4 November 24, 2012 at 4:27 pm .

      Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnadQLj0p0I

      It shows a hybrid tablet mode which I love, it shrinks the soft keys AND it moves them to the bottom in landscape mode, so the remaining are is PURE 720P, so apps run in native resolution. I changed my opinion about on screen buttons after seeing this.

  22. sere83
    sere83 October 31, 2012 at 4:22 pm .

    This is the exact dilemma I have been facing. I was set on getting the M2 but tbh i think the Nexus 4 is more likely now.

    As people have mentioned before Xiaomi’s stupid limited batch release cycle means that most people outside China have very little chance of getting one any time soon anyway.

    And unless you have a personal connection in china your looking at $400 + for importing from sites who will be bumping the price up as usual. So pricing will in fact be very similar once you take that into account. I also suspect the LG build might be slightly better although the m2 will still be nice.

    As someone mentioned before though at the end of the day it comes down to availability and the M2 is basically an unknown at this time. It took a damn long time for me to get my M1 so i’m expecting similar from the M2 and spec wise the M2 has very few if any advantages over the Nexus 4, so It may have to be the N4 after all.

  23. Rianto
    Rianto October 31, 2012 at 6:55 pm .

    in Indonesia LG said nexus 4 will be $500++ man that crazy
    i like xiaomi 2 because the battery and back cover color (the chance i get it is 1% even through my friend in china)
    nexus 4 have an ugly design like the other nexus phone

  24. steve
    steve October 31, 2012 at 11:18 pm .

    I only know tha M2 has those features: what about nexus 4 ?

    8Mpx camera is Sony back-illuminated sensor (better low light pictures ?)
    Wifi display : Can broadcast 1080p video contain trough WIFI to any WIFI TV screen
    Wifi direct
    dual antenna (better reception ?)
    bluetooth 4.0 (lower power then 3.0)
    bluetooth HID (use keyboard/mouse etc bluetooth)
    USB on the go (can connect any USB device to it, even your camera to unload pictures)
    barometer sensor (in case wonder about altitude or weather condition ?)
    compass (find your way)

    Personally I care most is Sony’s BI sensor , what about N4 low light picture quality ?

  25. Vanlon
    Vanlon November 1, 2012 at 12:31 am .

    I’m going with the xiaomi. The reasons being it’s smaller only 2mm wider than my current phone. I hate how big phones have become. Also replaceable battery is key, these high res screens chew up the battery pretty fast. The 3000mah battery is enticing as well.

    1. HEctor
      HEctor November 5, 2012 at 1:17 am .

      3000mah battery ?
      did you see the chart ?

      Also nexus 4 is not 350usd but 300usd.

      1. JuanK
        JuanK November 5, 2012 at 11:02 pm .

        No 300 usd if for the 8 gb model and the article compares the 16 gb on both phones (theres a 32 gb model on Xiaomi). 16 gb model is indeed 350 usd

  26. zoltek
    zoltek November 1, 2012 at 2:59 am .

    Nexus 4 for sure !

  27. tood
    tood November 1, 2012 at 3:08 am .

    Nexus 4 prey to all the cards in the mobile market I will choose Naxos 4 because of the price and because of the community.
    I would suggest to xiaomi and other freedoms in China to reduce the price

  28. suXia
    suXia November 1, 2012 at 4:05 am .

    That’s a no brainer. These days I often move cards between my tablets/phones/android micro-pc so a phone without a microsd slot is a no-go, even if they give me 64GB of onboard storage for the same price.

  29. Bill Tu
    Bill Tu November 1, 2012 at 7:07 am .

    Nexus 4 causes it doesn’t have to preorder and does not let you wait so long. Maybe Xiaomi do the preorder because they are afraid of the number of sold phones can be lower than their expectation, but I hate to wait more. Besides, international buyer must buy phones from China with higher price.

  30. Fel
    Fel November 1, 2012 at 8:35 am .

    not sure yet since i do live in China and no word of Nexus 4 release so far. Also, MIUI community is pretty active and the UI pretty good. sd card i dont mind too much since both should support USB OTG and good old drop box

  31. Science Fiction Book Club
    Science Fiction Book Club November 1, 2012 at 2:32 pm .

    The Nexus 4 does not have a MicroSD slot :-(

  32. thesniper321
    thesniper321 November 1, 2012 at 9:44 pm .

    Just saw a hand on of the nexus 4 and I’m with andi on this one the look of the nexus is a big MEH, I’m with xiaomi on this one.

    1. Mik
      Mik November 2, 2012 at 4:43 pm .

      the price Austria for the Nexus 4 ist 700 USD! So for me it is not even a competition. The hilarious thing is that LG said that high labor costs are the reason for the excessive price and yet in Germany the phone is available for nearly half of the price.

      So 700 USD for a cheap budget phone, with no exchangeable battery, no SD card slot, no dual sim.

  33. iiyama94
    iiyama94 November 1, 2012 at 9:57 pm .

    Already order mi2

  34. TommyG
    TommyG November 2, 2012 at 9:43 pm .

    If the Xiaomi were more readily available in the US, I think I would opt for it. I really like the styling of it better than the Nexus. The buttons, flat edge and maximum use of space make it more interesting to me. The size is just about right. The Nexus 4 seems a bit too big and I don’t like the rounded edges. I prefer a bit more square design and not so much space above and below the screen.

    I’m probably going to hold out until so more interesting phones become available or wait for the Xiaomi to come to the US. I really like the idea of them making only one phone a year too unlike LG which makes many different models.

  35. ying
    ying November 4, 2012 at 4:28 pm .

    No MicroSD slot and no replaceable larger battery is a no-go.

  36. jpenzo
    jpenzo November 25, 2012 at 3:43 pm .

    somes specs are equivalent
    but the M2 is superior in termes of hardware see the benchmarks
    about the software the pure android of the nexus 4 is a good thing
    but the MiUI OS is also one of the best OS for smartphone

  37. Marc
    Marc December 24, 2012 at 11:51 am .

    I spent a few days trying to buy a Nexus 4 without luck. When I found out that the Nexus 4 doesn’t have USB OTG support, though, I was suddenly happy that my efforts had failed! Now my Xiaomi Mi-2 is on its way. I am a big Nexus line fan, but the lack of OTG was a deal-breaker for me. So Xiaomi, you get my money this round; Hopefully the next Nexus will meet my requirements.

  38. diad
    diad December 24, 2012 at 11:33 pm .

    For me it’s very simple, one of my friend has sgs3 and when I hold it in my hand, just think is too big for a phone I hate that.
    The second think is the 90fps camera(720p, for people who say1080, 1080 is for 30fps) but if you don’t use it you just don’t need, and I love slow motion so for me it’s a big revolution on a mobile phone, I think is the only but I’not sure.
    And for me miui is realy cool, no need to root it, the root is one your phone when you buy it, and the optimisation of miui rom is realy crazy, just for exemple, my actually phone(I agree it’s a pice of shit beside the nexus or xiaomi m2) was almost 1200 at the benchmark with the software original and with a miui rom who let me put the setting just like I want it 3600 but I have just some bug because it’s not the rom for this phone but the phone is a lot of more fluid. The thing what I want to say to you is just that miui rom develop all the potential of your hardware and the root and setting give you the opportunity to put your phone better for YOUR use.
    For someone who talk about play store compatibility with miui I say it’s work very well, the only thing is bad is that the miui rom is only in chinese or english and I’m french(yes sorry for my bad english) but the miui community is huge and we have traduction of the rom. For me I prefere to keep the original version in english is not too difficult.
    An for the rest the hardware is almost the same nothing more to say except: I realy want to have this xiaomi m2 I’m waiting for it. Just take care to the fake.
    Peace and enjoy xiaomi m2 is a machine gun ;D

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