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  1. Naveen Dsouza
    Naveen Dsouza March 5, 2013 at 1:03 am .

    I voted for UMI X2, as of now only this one has a shipping date in India, which is 15th March, jiayu does not have a release date, nor does the premium model of Iocean x7(though the x7 youth is getting released on 6th March) and Neo is not yet launched in India.

  2. XrainX
    XrainX March 5, 2013 at 1:25 am .

    The winner will be JiaYu G4 because is the only which is not 5″ size.
    One 4.7″ against 3×5″ will win.
    And this will be also on their sales because too many 5″ models on the market and people not really prepared for such big size. Even the difference between 4.7″ and 5″ is very small.
    The second will be one with 1080p.
    The last will be the one with small battery.
    Bet?

  3. basyvava
    basyvava March 5, 2013 at 2:05 am .

    I’d go with either the NEO or the G4. Depends which is launched first I guess. I would have gone with the UMi if there weren’t so many build quality issues with the X1, and I intend to keep my phone for a little while, so I wouldn’t go against the odds I guess.

  4. Brian from Manchester
    Brian from Manchester March 5, 2013 at 2:25 am .

    Ive preordered a G4 Premium on the Jiayu web site for the reasons stated above hope it comes soon and lives up to its hype..Thanks Gizchina for the reviews and news I probably would have stuck with my Samsung Wave without you.

    1. Norman Zakaria
      Norman Zakaria March 5, 2013 at 3:58 am .

      Dude~ May I know how much u paid and how did u order if ur from Manchester? Do they provide international shipping?

      1. Mee
        Mee March 5, 2013 at 6:31 am .

        Go to JiaYu Mobile International site and you can order from them (about $250) plus shipping.

        1. RobertNL
          RobertNL March 5, 2013 at 6:58 am .

          You know that JiayuMobileshop is not anything near a real reseller of the Jiayu? Its just shop from the hand of Antelife ;)

        2. anon
          anon March 5, 2013 at 7:00 am .

          This one? http://www.jiayumobileshop.com/jiayu-mobile-phone/jiayu-g4-mtk6589-quad-core-1g-ram-4-7-inch-hd-ips-retina-screen-android-4-1-13mp-camera-gyroscope-basic-smart-phone.html

          I dunno if that’s really official site, since that’s the basic version and should be priced about $200 (give or take for international buyer). Other site offer you the advanced version for that price.

        3. RobertNL
          RobertNL March 5, 2013 at 7:03 am .

          If the 5” phones have a smaller bezel then the 4.7” phones the size will be the same as last seasons 4.7” phones. More screen for the same size is a good thing in my opinion :)

          1. Norman Zakaria
            Norman Zakaria March 5, 2013 at 9:41 am .

            Hahahah! That’s not official Jiayu. Good luck with ur order man. I hope they don’t con u. I’ll be waiting for my supplier in China to tell me if he has stock of Jiayu Premium version =]

      2. Brian from Manchester
        Brian from Manchester March 6, 2013 at 3:07 am .

        I paid $100 for a voucher which was then reduced by 5$ for registering with the site and a further 5$ for preordering so i paid 90$ upfront via Paypal. I am supposed to be 44th on their preorder list and am supposed to get an email notifying when the phones are in stock. At this point I get to choose advanced/basic and white or black and pay the rest less the 100$ voucher. The UK shipping by snail mail is included free with options for DHL etc for a reasonable few bucks more. Lets hope the site which appears to be real is not a scam……there are all the other Jiaju phones there plus english support for them plus accessories plus links from their Facebook page so I am still hopefully optimistic despite the comments made below…watch this space

        1. Norman Zakaria
          Norman Zakaria March 6, 2013 at 4:37 am .

          Sounds good! Good luck bro. I’ll try to find out more about that website and if it’s all good, i’ll pre-order there too =]

  5. streetp0wer
    streetp0wer March 5, 2013 at 2:41 am .

    i will take the x7 i guess, if they have no problems with screen scratching, if not – i guess i will be okay with jiayu , which quality i quite trust.

    1. smarthandy
      smarthandy March 26, 2013 at 3:48 am .

      JIAYU G4 und UMI X2 sind beide gut.sehr erwartet!!

  6. sean
    sean March 5, 2013 at 2:59 am .

    I would probably go for Neo as it has Sony lens, HDMI output, USB OTG and Yamaha audio. The only concern is the build quality and community support.

    1. sean
      sean March 5, 2013 at 3:53 am .

      From Neo bbs forum, it looks like the OS will be Android 4.2.

      1. XrainX
        XrainX March 5, 2013 at 11:07 am .

        The best specs for Neo. USB OTG is a great feature!
        Better audio is also great because from my experience the chinese smartphones have bad sound. And the first function for a smartphone is talking with another people.
        4.2 (Miracast support), HDMI and Gorill glass are also very good.
        Unfortunately even the Neo have the great specs it will not win. Maybe in the past they made some mistakes and people not forget.

        @Andi, please, post if any of them have Dual Sim Active from this top.

        And also, please, when you will receive info about the first MT6589 smartphone with DUal Sim Active publish an article just about this. Can be somethinf like:
        “The first MT6589 with real Dual Sim Active support”
        The competitors will understand (later) how important is Active for their sellings!

    2. K CD
      K CD March 6, 2013 at 2:40 pm .

      This looks like the best deal. It will be available in India for around Rs9000 – that’s Rs5000 less than the Umi x2. But I’ll hold off until there is a service center in Kolkata.

  7. Michael
    Michael March 5, 2013 at 3:34 am .

    Can anyone say what languages those smartphone support? Chinese/English only?

  8. K CD
    K CD March 5, 2013 at 4:08 am .

    I prefer to use phones without screen protectors – Gorilla glass is a must. The only phones that have it for sure are Umi X2 and Jiayu G4. If iOcean X7 came with Gorilla glass I would buy the premium version at a drop of a hat. All three of these companies are releasing phones in India so I’ll wait and see which is also opening service centers. No news about the Neo being released in India.

    1. sean
      sean March 5, 2013 at 9:52 am .

      Neo is also using Gorilla glass

      1. K CD
        K CD March 6, 2013 at 2:27 pm .

        That’s good news. It is also going to be available in India.

  9. LucifeL
    LucifeL March 5, 2013 at 4:32 am .

    Umi X2 Why???

    1. CORNING GORILLA GLASS (The poll ends there for me !!!)

    2. Launching in india hence the possibility for future service and support.

    3. It has everything that i want with a mild compromise on battery, would have loved 3000mAh but 2500 would do for me…

    though the only other temptation for me here is Jiyayu G4. Not a big difference between 4.7″ and 5″ and i also presume its gorilla glass and its sexy black with 3000mAh. But what’s putting me off of it is Not launching soon in india and gets way too expensive to order online :( .

  10. kolyamba
    kolyamba March 5, 2013 at 4:40 am .

    None of these. I’ll take good quality branded phone from ZTE\Lenovo\Huawei (probably ZTE v987). Poor quality of phone and materials isn’t worth 100 dollars saved.

    1. anon
      anon March 5, 2013 at 4:52 am .

      It’s “poor quality” because you have used them all amirite?

    2. anon
      anon March 5, 2013 at 4:58 am .

      Umi looks the easiest 5″ 1080p to hold, and I generally favor usability over form (unless it’s really really ugly), so yeah X2 for me.

  11. cpurage
    cpurage March 5, 2013 at 4:44 am .

    Andym please notice that the NEO N003 will hjave 1080p 5″ instead of 720p 5.3″, please check in there official forum, It’s announced for more than a week now, and you guys forgot to update your sheet.

    1. cpurage
      cpurage March 5, 2013 at 4:52 am .

      Andi, you also should put in that spreadsheet with all those phones, a WCDMA Bands like only 2100, 900/2100, 850/2100, 800/850/900/1700/1900/2100 and so on, cause there are different customers I mean their location, and they need to now which phone will fully work with their GSM Operator !!!

      1. Jim
        Jim March 5, 2013 at 7:34 pm .

        This is very important. I managed to get someone to post the bandmode page on a Micromax A116 (MTK6589 chip) that phone ONLY supported WCDMA on 2100mhz. You could not switch on the other bands!

        So, unless you can use 2100mhz be wary with pre-orders until someone can confirm the bands supported.

  12. ivo001
    ivo001 March 5, 2013 at 5:28 am .

    I think im going to get the Premiun Jiayu G4, however the iOcean looks great too.

    What phone has the best support and quality? Since I am importing it to Europe, sending it back for repare will cost a lot of time and money. Which phone is the least likely to break?

  13. Muhammed
    Muhammed March 5, 2013 at 6:05 am .

    It’s very simple for most people I believe. The big 5 inch screen is an easy dealbreaker. With it’s still awesome specs and looks, the Jiayu G4 will be the winner. Nice poll tho Andi :)

    1. K CD
      K CD March 5, 2013 at 9:21 am .

      The Jiayu is 133.0 X 65.0 X 8.2mm
      The Umi X2 is 135 x 68 x 8.9 mm

      There’s really not that much difference in size. And the UMi X2 has rounded edges compared with the Jiayu G4 which may make it more comfortable to hold. I would go with either of these depending on the service in India. The Jiayu G4 has 20% more battery and has to power 38% less pixels so a single charge could last significantly longer.

      1. daniel f
        daniel f March 5, 2013 at 1:10 pm .

        the X2 dimension are supposed to be 141/70/8.9 according to that picture released on facebook (umi europe; which is not an official channel though). However, these dimensions too me sound way more likely (calculate the bare screen size…)

        1. K CD
          K CD March 5, 2013 at 1:25 pm .

          The dimensions are from the official umimbile.in website.

          1. daniel f
            daniel f March 5, 2013 at 4:53 pm .

            interesting! Would be nice if those dimensions are correct! (the facebook picture i mentioned earlier is even on the offical facebook.com/umimobile – well, let’s wait and see then :-)

      2. anon
        anon March 5, 2013 at 11:51 pm .

        1080p is more than twice the pixel count of 720p actually.

        1. K CD
          K CD March 6, 2013 at 2:17 pm .

          You’re right – don’t know how I got that wrong. This means the Jiayu has 56% less pixels to power up so the battery should last even longer.

  14. Indraneel
    Indraneel March 5, 2013 at 8:22 am .

    super poll andi . keep things happening this way. such huge sized items are not very pleasent phones though. jiayu is the best. all of them should come up with 4 inch versions also

  15. Adi
    Adi March 5, 2013 at 9:28 am .

    iOcean from these 4, but in fact will wait for some higher end model, Snapdragon or Tegra4 like the Narudo Lando X02. It must be 1920×1080 this for sure (I have Jiayu G3 , great phone but the next one will be FHD). Most likely will also wait for one which has metal body. I like HTC One but I hope for something with lower price (don’t care about data mode I just use my phone for voice and WiFi which is plenty around here).

  16. Gamerrrrr
    Gamerrrrr March 5, 2013 at 10:14 am .

    I voted for the jiayu g4!
    Reasons why:
    - UMi X2 Bad support as sad, much cracked windows on X1 and also ugly!
    - iOcean X7 Awesome phone but I think the battery life is to small because of the 1080p screen what isn’t a must have for me!
    - Neo N003 Ugly, bad support same as UMi X2
    - JiaYu G4 Good looking(unfortunately much like an iPhone but still good looking) great flagship and not a 1080p screen which I like since I think it is unnecessary.
    (also I would like to have dual-Sim)

    Why didn’t you include the Narudo Lando X02? ^^ I would have picked that phone :)

  17. chandu
    chandu March 5, 2013 at 11:11 am .

    hi andy. can you plz tell me is iocean is of gorilla glass, and shall i wait for it till its luanched or shall i go for umi x2

  18. Norman Zakaria
    Norman Zakaria March 5, 2013 at 11:59 am .

    What do u think guys, can these websites be trusted?

    http://www.pandawill.com/jiayu-g4-advanced-smart-phone-mtk6589-quad-core-2g-32g-47-inch-hd-ips-retina-screen-android-41-13mp-camera-gyroscope-p71208.html

    http://www.dhgate.com/1pcs-jiayu-g4-advanced-smart-phone-mtk6589/p-ff8080813d2018a2013d30e00eb06800.html

    Pandawill seems cheap and good but ive heard a few bad reviews about their website and I have no idea at all about DHGate. Now i’m just waiting on my supplier in China, but in the mean time I’m looking for a reliable place to buy Jiayu G4, just in case..

  19. Airyl
    Airyl March 5, 2013 at 12:24 pm .

    Am I the only one who thinks the JiaYu G4 looks a bit Iphone 5-ish, due to the camera and flash placement?

  20. Rob
    Rob March 5, 2013 at 12:49 pm .

    I think on balance, and with a need to get a day from the battery, the JiaYu G4 is the one i will order.

  21. WillPOW
    WillPOW March 5, 2013 at 8:06 pm .

    I’m leaning towards Neo. I’ve been using Neo n002m for a few months now, found no problem with its build quality. So if n003m is going to be cheaper than the rest and presumably of no lesser quality, then why not go with neo again.
    Plus I really don’t see why people are so keen on getting a 1080p screen. Are you guys actually able to tell the difference between a Full HD screen and a HD screen on something 5 inch?

  22. -Carlos-
    -Carlos- March 5, 2013 at 11:34 pm .

    Nice review! I voted for Jiayu G4 :)

    1 – JiaYu G4
    2 – iOcean X7
    3 – UMi X2
    4 – Neo N003

  23. gamer
    gamer March 6, 2013 at 12:28 am .

    Jaiyu G4 Will Be my Option to buy it looks like the iphone look

  24. Ace
    Ace March 6, 2013 at 3:32 am .

    Honestly it’s between the jiayu and the sheng, and the sheng wins out purely on the basis of device size. Honestly, 1080p is great, but not that great, and it comes down to size preference. The jiayu also has the advantage of a more active dev community, although both phones will undoubtedly get android 5.0.
    What I like the neo though is that they bothered to put in some quality audio components,aswell as all kinds of outputs and connectivity which seems to not be the case of the sheng and jiayu.

  25. aKp1
    aKp1 March 6, 2013 at 11:38 am .

    I voted for UMi X2!! Although we had broken glasses with UMi X1, we have Gorilla glass 2 with X2 and also the camera too, the X2 has stated that it has f2.0 aperture camera which means more light can enter through and so better image quality! And also iocean though looks cool but they are too lazy in launching out their premium version of the phone!!

  26. R.V.RAJU
    R.V.RAJU March 6, 2013 at 1:11 pm .

    x7 seems cool but would like to know about the after sale service there in china, so plz let us know which of them give best service.

    actually anybody received a quadcore( full powered like premium, not youth type) from any 0EM till now from above said brands or from other brands?

    those cubot & umeox 6″ are ON SALE yet ? plz start a new thread on 6″ mobiles for big screen lovers. thank Q.

  27. Slovenia
    Slovenia March 6, 2013 at 5:20 pm .

    does the iocen x7 really has 8gb of internal storage? most of other sources say there are 4gb of storage in the youth version

    1. sean
      sean March 6, 2013 at 10:44 pm .

      I think it shld be 4Gb.

  28. sean
    sean March 6, 2013 at 11:57 pm .

    There is a Iocean X7 hands-on video on Youtube.

    1. kyan31
      kyan31 March 7, 2013 at 4:49 pm .

      Thanks for posting :)

  29. blumba
    blumba March 7, 2013 at 7:44 am .

    does anyone know any online stores i can go to to buy these phones???

    Thanks

  30. K CD
    K CD March 7, 2013 at 1:43 pm .

    The Neo has Yamaha audio – is that the DAC? Because the folks at Xda were not impressed by the Yamaha DAC in the Samsung Galaxy S2. I have read that the Jiayu G3 has the Wolfson DAC which is second to none for audio. Any information on the audio for the Jiayu G4?

    1. anon
      anon March 7, 2013 at 10:53 pm .

      Wolfson is a very good dac but far from “second to none”. It’s still an impressive chip to have on phone though.

      1. K CD
        K CD March 8, 2013 at 5:30 am .

        The only other good DAC I am aware of is Cirrus Logic which Apple uses when it’s not using the Wolfson DAC. It has better clarity than the Wolfson but not good 3D imaging.

        1. anon
          anon March 8, 2013 at 12:48 pm .

          There’s also PCM179X series from TI and go google ESS Sabre, also the DAC chip is only one component in the whole scheme, the way how it’s implemented is also very important.

          That said, unless you pair it with good IEM, you’re unlikely to hear major different between those DACs though.

          1. K CD
            K CD March 9, 2013 at 12:43 am .

            If you are using the cheap IEM that come with the phone that will level the playing field. But no point in buying half decent ear phones if the phone audio chip is crap.

  31. CarrotDonkey
    CarrotDonkey March 7, 2013 at 3:00 pm .

    Andi,

    I have another suggestion. Most of us are lost when it comes to buying these phones. Why not put up the official sites of the phone companies, or at least review and recommend a few online resellers?

    Thanks!

    1. YoLoBoY
      YoLoBoY March 7, 2013 at 6:50 pm .

      I would appreciate that too

    2. Norman Zakaria
      Norman Zakaria March 7, 2013 at 10:35 pm .

      We used to have a forum here at Gizchina where members can talk about everything from phones to websites that are trusted when it comes to buying China phones.

      It’s now gone coz I guess people weren’t active in the Gizchina forums anymore.. I for one loved to pay a visit and check out the latest stories in Gizchina and it’s forum.

    3. Arsalan
      Arsalan March 10, 2013 at 11:09 pm .

      I will appreciate that too. I will make things easy for us to order.

  32. Ace
    Ace March 8, 2013 at 4:22 am .

    Any idea of what the sensors in the x7 and jiayu are ? Are they last-gen 8mp sensors or are they Exmor RS BSI-based sensors?

  33. Kaskuser
    Kaskuser March 9, 2013 at 7:27 pm .

    When other people waiting and confused which phone will they buy.
    I buy star b94m quad core in aliexpress. Just 190$ free shipping and 10$ discount their from store.
    They promise to send in 2-3 day
    ;)

    1. XrainX
      XrainX March 9, 2013 at 8:31 pm .

      Very nice, man!
      Just try a google search using “star b94m”. You will discover it is MT6577 dual core.
      Good luck!

    2. anon
      anon March 9, 2013 at 9:59 pm .

      It’s called doing proper research. Have fun with your $190 MT6577 “quad-core” phone.

      1. XrainX
        XrainX March 9, 2013 at 10:35 pm .

        On Aliexpress they have screenshots with MT6589 chipset: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/6inch-N9880-MTK-6575-1Ghz-Android-4-0-3-WIFI-GPS-Dual-SIM-Dual-Camera/101226_612455127.html
        This is why I wrote him “Good luck!”.

    3. Kaskuser
      Kaskuser March 10, 2013 at 12:13 am .

      There is the unit link http://www.aliexpress.com/item/4-5inch-Star-Android-4-1-Quad-4-Core-B943-B94M-1G-RAM-MTK6589-GPS-Wifi/760066406.html
      Seller have 100% reputation, and if 5 day they didnt shipping, my money will return ( not like other seller in aliexpress who set more than 2 week for shipping time)
      And i think 180$ is very good deal for mtk 6899 and star is old brand name. Not a new company

      1. Norman Zakaria
        Norman Zakaria March 10, 2013 at 8:50 am .

        Seller has 100% trusted rating because he only sold 10 items. Those 10 items could have easily been faked. If he had 1000 units sold then it would be a different matter. Star is an old and good brand but not a really well maintained or powerful phone. Phones like Jiayu, Umi and iOcean are a totally different league compared to Star. I doubt the seller is legit and even if he is legit, I doubt the phone is a good one but I seriously wish you all the best and hope u do get the phone. If u do, please comment back here n tell us how the phone is.

      2. kaskuser
        kaskuser March 10, 2013 at 9:20 pm .

        at least they dare to set 5 day processing time before shipping,at least if they didn’t shipping in 5 day, my money is back, and aliexpress will return my money without i ask to dispute.
        not like my experience before, they say will send in 1 week, but set 1 month for processing time, and make me must dispute for get my money back after 2 week they didn’t shipped it.

        i agree this is not better than jiayu g4 or umi x2, but there is a money there is a quality.
        this phone is just 180$, and jiayu g4 or umi x2 is cost about 300$ and i don’t know when will available, maybe in next 3 to 6 month :)

  34. Chris Roberts
    Chris Roberts March 10, 2013 at 2:48 am .

    can anyone give me a link to a trusted site where i can buy the x7?

  35. Chris Roberts
    Chris Roberts March 10, 2013 at 3:14 am .

    secondly, is jiayumobileshop.com a trusted seller

  36. Aaron
    Aaron March 10, 2013 at 6:02 am .

    does somebody know how to update jiayu g4 because i read i have to install a zip or something.
    And does sombody know give it a program (pc) that alos to shar photos and so with pc ??

  37. Arsalan
    Arsalan March 10, 2013 at 11:18 am .

    I don’t know why people are hesitating to tell us what is the most reliable store to buy from? Which is cheaper also.

  38. MH Ananda
    MH Ananda March 30, 2013 at 12:00 pm .

    can i insert memory card on neo noo3

  39. irmans
    irmans April 1, 2013 at 3:01 am .

    is Neo N003 Will Sell In Indonesian?

  40. bartd
    bartd April 1, 2013 at 3:51 am .

    Where can i find the Iocean X7 premium??

  41. Viktor
    Viktor April 1, 2013 at 12:30 pm .

    Jiayu G4 delayed to May 15th, due to camera issues.
    Source: Pandawill

  42. Jay
    Jay April 5, 2013 at 9:11 am .

    Andi, we need to update the comparison with Gorilla Glass and Bluetooth support too.

    Most of these phones (at least UMI and iOCEAN come with Bluetooth 2.0!. Not going by flagship features (which bundle Bluetooth 4.0), I would at least expect 3.0. Again, that’s assuming how much it matters to users, but it would be good to publish.

    Thanks for the article.

    1. Jay
      Jay April 5, 2013 at 9:18 am .

      The Bluetooth versions are conflicting with different sites reporting different information. I’ve posted a query UMI X2′s Facebook page. Awaiting confirmation. Let’s see

  43. MH Ananda
    MH Ananda April 7, 2013 at 4:59 pm .

    Can we update or change the os

  44. MH Ananda
    MH Ananda April 10, 2013 at 9:31 am .

    for how many months I can use Neo N003 smoothly??please answer me….

  45. ChinaWizKid
    ChinaWizKid April 18, 2013 at 6:01 am .

    Before they come in India, their presence looks like Invisible Man, whatever they promise, more specifically UMI, all are false so far. They just upload photos, and ask how to make payment. Not a concrete / satisfactory result to anybody so far. Big questions on their ETHICS, and Governance. If they are not loyal even to those who have paid, what else one can expect from their product, or in terms of after Sales service. True, Everything that Glitters is not Gold.

  46. Eugene
    Eugene May 5, 2013 at 1:36 am .

    But you might be incorrect with estimated G4 pricing. Everywhere i see 240-255 USD for flagman model.
    Personally i’d go for Umi X2. Seem very nice device, but have to take a look on hands.

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