Chuwi Hi12 officially launched with gaming video


Chinese tablet maker Chuwi officially unveiled their Chuwi Hi12 tablet today and also posted a video of the tab running League of Legends.

Being on of the first 12-inch Windows 10 tablets from China the Chuwi Hi12 has been a hotly discussed device. Today, Chuwi officially launched that tablet in China and tweeted details to their loyal international fans along with posting the above hands on video.

In the video we see the Intel Cherry Trail powered tablet running League of Legends and while it looks impressive we would like to see the test in the flesh as we’re not sure the Cherry Trail is up to full 2160 x 1440 gaming.

The video also shows that tablet with a keyboard, although we don’t believe this is the official Chuwi keyboard as it isn’t using the dock connectors in the bottom of that tablet’s body.

Specs for the Chuwi Hi12 include a 12 inch 2160 x 1440 display, Intel Cherry Trail Z8300 processor, 4GB RAM and 64GB internal memory. Windows 10 comes on the machine as standard but an Android OS version is meant to be in the works also.

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36 Comments

  1. yalok
    January 28, 2016

    Put a Z8500 instead and I’ll buy it.

    • Stef
      January 28, 2016

      Yeah cause those extra 400 MHz while in burst mode (when only core is used, which is … rarely for anything demanding) will do wonders.

      Seriously though, you do realize that those are different bins of the same SoC , right? I mean Z8700 , Z8500, Z8300 use the same silicon and I doubt most would notice much of a difference between them.

      Instead of Atom I would prefer Core-M of the skylake variety… Atoms are too weak for laptop work.

      • yalok
        January 29, 2016

        Nonetheless, the difference is about the same as between SD800 and SD810. Z8500 uses dual channel ram, while z8300 doesn’t. Don’t underestimate the clocks power too.
        I would use it only as an android tablet and that power would suffice.

        • Stef
          January 29, 2016

          There are different implementations of SD810. For example the first ones (weak cooling, plenty of throttling) were/are about 20% to 30% slower in actual every day performance (burst and sustained).

          Even so the differences between SD800 and SD810 remain chaotic both in principle and often in practice. The krait core employed by SD800 is Cortex-A9 based and an anachronism even for its day, it was saved by the better memory bandwidth and relatively high clocks.

          SD800 can *only* give similar performance to SD810 when SD810 is throttled to oblivion, but that’s only because SD810 got slow due to throttling. Their difference in raw numbers is chaotic, with SD810 being almost twice as powerful when compared to SD800.

          So I don’t think it’s like SD800 to SD810 performance difference. CPU wise it’s SD801 -> SD801 -> SD805 kind of difference , respectively.

          For example extra memory bandwidth is always welcome, but if the PC/tablet is CPU clock bottlenecked you won’t get much out of it. So even for Android you would be hard pressed o tell which is Z8300 and which is Z8500, you’d instantly recognize Core-m though…

          • yalok
            January 29, 2016

            I haven’t touched either, but from what I’ve seen the geekbench/antutu/sunspider scores correspond to what I told in my post above. By the way, I can’t tell the difference in android performance between my old jiayu g4 and my new nexus 5x, yet I believe z8500 will do a better job on that resolution in android.

            • Stef
              January 29, 2016

              Antutu measures the GPU to a big part so it’s out, sunspider measures JavaScript so it’s highly biased to certain configurations. Geekbench is not the best either but it does produce relevant numbers.

              You’d see there that sd810 (even in its current -throttly- form) is 40-50% faster than sd800 across the board. Then you’d see that Z8300 and Z8500 are *exactly* the same in multi thread performance, while in single thread exists a difference of no more than 20%. Since Android is heavily multi threaded that difference makes even less sense in every day usage. You’re basically buying the same thing…

              BTW z8xx Series of atoms is a 64bit rehash of Z37xx series, with better GPU too. Unless you’re gaming you’d be hard pressed to see a difference in performance between $80 tablets and those newer ones. As always Intel makes a great job of milking the cow by rebadging the same performance levels.

            • yalok
              January 29, 2016

              I don’t know where you are looking, but z8300 has top multi thread performance score of 2200 and Z8500 has 3300. That’s exactly 50% increase. GPU is important too, so I wouldn’t exclude antutu.

            • Stef
              January 29, 2016

              GPU is important for different things (i.e. games). Antutu conflates the two, which is why I exclude it (they type of people who care about games are not the same as the type of people that don’t).

              I got that they’re the same because they have the same base frequency. Indeed though Z8300 seems to be severly bottleneched from RAM’s bandwidth so it does not perform as well as it could. You win that round.

              Still I don’t think Atoms are a good choice for regular computer/laptop use. They’re probably good enough for Android though. Still those tabs are being marketed as “Windows Hybrids”, no matter which Atom you’re going to use they’re going to be dead slow in anything remotely stressing (i.e. productive stuff).

            • yalok
              January 30, 2016

              GPU is used now even for simple browsing and it should be powerful enough to handle that resolution.

              I agree that the Atom’s are too weak for regular workstation/desktop use. I’m not sure if even a core M would suffice my needs.

            • Stef
              January 30, 2016

              Depending on the OS I agree/disagree with you. In Windows certainly. In android far less so. Android in fact makes very little use of hardware acceleration, there are multiple tests I’ve done between models and it would always be the one with the better CPU/ram that would win out even if the GPU was relatively weak. The only thing where a powerful GPU matters in android is games.

              In both iOS and Windows , you matters a lot more though…

            • yalok
              February 3, 2016

              I’ve tried lg G3 and Sony z3 compact. Both have the same chip, but very different resolution. Everything(not speaking of games) feels much snappier on the compact.

            • Stef
              February 3, 2016

              Yeah, that’s mostly because of how much ram apps consume. Take a peek at ram consumption and see how much more g3 uses for the same app…

              Generally the lower the resolution the less things the SoC has to care about.

              But -again- this has nothing to do with GPU, just enable android statistics and see how little the GPU stresses itself in both situations…

              Of course using a different skin plays a big role as well (the play field is not level)

  2. Natsumi
    January 28, 2016

    Only English keyboard? bad.

  3. yalok
    January 28, 2016

    Put a Z8500 instead and I’ll buy it.

    • Stef
      January 28, 2016

      Yeah cause those extra 400 MHz while in burst mode (when only core is used, which is … rarely for anything demanding) will do wonders.

      Seriously though, you do realize that those are different bins of the same SoC , right? I mean Z8700 , Z8500, Z8300 use the same silicon and I doubt most would notice much of a difference between them.

      Instead of Atom I would prefer Core-M of the skylake variety… Atoms are too weak for laptop work.

    • yalok
      January 29, 2016

      Nonetheless, the difference is about the same as between SD800 and SD810. Z8500 uses dual channel ram, while z8300 doesn’t. Don’t underestimate the clocks power too.
      I would use it only as an android tablet and that power would suffice.

    • Stef
      January 29, 2016

      There are different implementations of SD810. For example the first ones (weak cooling, plenty of throttling) were/are about 20% to 30% slower in actual every day performance (burst and sustained).

      Even so the differences between SD800 and SD810 remain chaotic both in principle and often in practice. The krait core employed by SD800 is Cortex-A9 based and an anachronism even for its day, it was saved by the better memory bandwidth and relatively high clocks.

      SD800 can *only* give similar performance to SD810 when SD810 is throttled to oblivion, but that’s only because SD810 got slow due to throttling. Their difference in raw numbers is chaotic, with SD810 being almost twice as powerful when compared to SD800.

      So I don’t think it’s like SD800 to SD810 performance difference. CPU wise it’s SD801 -> SD801 -> SD805 kind of difference , respectively.

      For example extra memory bandwidth is always welcome, but if the PC/tablet is CPU clock bottlenecked you won’t get much out of it. So even for Android you would be hard pressed o tell which is Z8300 and which is Z8500, you’d instantly recognize Core-m though…

    • yalok
      January 29, 2016

      I haven’t touched either, but from what I’ve seen the geekbench/antutu/sunspider scores correspond to what I told in my post above. By the way, I can’t tell the difference in android performance between my old jiayu g4 and my new nexus 5x, yet I believe z8500 will do a better job on that resolution in android.

    • Stef
      January 29, 2016

      Antutu measures the GPU to a big part so it’s out, sunspider measures JavaScript so it’s highly biased to certain configurations. Geekbench is not the best either but it does produce relevant numbers.

      You’d see there that sd810 (even in its current -throttly- form) is 40-50% faster than sd800 across the board. Then you’d see that Z8300 and Z8500 are *exactly* the same in multi thread performance, while in single thread exists a difference of no more than 20%. Since Android is heavily multi threaded that difference makes even less sense in every day usage. You’re basically buying the same thing…

      BTW z8xx Series of atoms is a 64bit rehash of Z37xx series, with better GPU too. Unless you’re gaming you’d be hard pressed to see a difference in performance between $80 tablets and those newer ones. As always Intel makes a great job of milking the cow by rebadging the same performance levels.

    • yalok
      January 29, 2016

      I don’t know where you are looking, but z8300 has top multi thread performance score of 2200 and Z8500 has 3300. That’s exactly 50% increase. GPU is important too, so I wouldn’t exclude antutu.

    • Stef
      January 29, 2016

      GPU is important for different things (i.e. games). Antutu conflates the two, which is why I exclude it (they type of people who care about games are not the same as the type of people that don’t).

      I got that they’re the same because they have the same base frequency. Indeed though Z8300 seems to be severly bottleneched from RAM’s bandwidth so it does not perform as well as it could. You win that round.

      Still I don’t think Atoms are a good choice for regular computer/laptop use. They’re probably good enough for Android though. Still those tabs are being marketed as “Windows Hybrids”, no matter which Atom you’re going to use they’re going to be dead slow in anything remotely stressing (i.e. productive stuff).

    • yalok
      January 30, 2016

      GPU is used now even for simple browsing and it should be powerful enough to handle that resolution.

      I agree that the Atom’s are too weak for regular workstation/desktop use. I’m not sure if even a core M would suffice my needs.

    • Stef
      January 30, 2016

      Depending on the OS I agree/disagree with you. In Windows certainly. In android far less so. Android in fact makes very little use of hardware acceleration, there are multiple tests I’ve done between models and it would always be the one with the better CPU/ram that would win out even if the GPU was relatively weak. The only thing where a powerful GPU matters in android is games.

      In both iOS and Windows , you matters a lot more though…

    • yalok
      February 3, 2016

      I’ve tried lg G3 and Sony z3 compact. Both have the same chip, but very different resolution. Everything(not speaking of games) feels much snappier on the compact.

    • Stef
      February 3, 2016

      Yeah, that’s mostly because of how much ram apps consume. Take a peek at ram consumption and see how much more g3 uses for the same app…

      Generally the lower the resolution the less things the SoC has to care about.

      But -again- this has nothing to do with GPU, just enable android statistics and see how little the GPU stresses itself in both situations…

      Of course using a different skin plays a big role as well (the play field is not level)

  4. Natsumi
    January 28, 2016

    Only English keyboard? bad.

  5. Roberto Tomás
    January 28, 2016

    well I’m just amazed. This thing is just like their $100 tablet, but with accessories like the convertible keyboard, and an extra 2GB of ram.

  6. Roberto Tomás
    January 29, 2016

    well I’m just amazed. This thing is just like their $100 tablet, but with accessories like the convertible keyboard, and an extra 2GB of ram.

  7. Alexis T
    January 29, 2016

    Don’t see the point in gaming LOL @2.5K
    BTW any 2015 tablet have sufficient power to run LOL @1080p…

    Now where is CoD MW3 test ? ^^
    @800×600 every settings to low… and an egg frying on the tablet’s back.

  8. Manjurul Islam
    January 29, 2016

    4GB why why why, does it cost heavenly to put another 4GB? Device looks and maybe will feel much solid and better than teclast x16 power but need more RAM please!

    • Ryuzaki Raiga
      January 31, 2016

      because SoC is different than PC

  9. NextHype
    January 29, 2016

    Don’t see the point in gaming LOL @2.5K
    BTW any 2015 tablet have sufficient power to run LOL @1080p…

    Now where is CoD MW3 test ? ^^
    @800×600 every settings to low… and an egg frying on the tablet’s back.

  10. Manjurul Islam
    January 29, 2016

    4GB why why why, does it cost heavenly to put another 4GB? Device looks and maybe will feel much solid and better than teclast x16 power but need more RAM please!

    • Ryuzaki Raiga
      January 31, 2016

      because SoC is different than PC

  11. SnowyCat
    January 30, 2016

    why would you play a game at 8-15 fps?

  12. SnowyCat
    January 30, 2016

    why would you play a game at 8-15 fps?