While the Xiaomi Mi5 was wowing us here in Barcelona, the Chinese press got their hands on the all new Xiaomi Mi4S.
Not present in Barcelona was the new Xiaomi Mi4S, this new device from Xiaomi is an update of the original Mi4, retaining the same 5-inch FHD form factor, but with a new alloy and dual glass design.
The dual glass panels come in white, black, pink or gold with the CNC alloy chassis getting matching silver, grey or gold fishes. Materials isn’t the only external change as the rear of the phone features a round fingerprint scanner similar to that found on the back of the all alloy Redmi Note 3 Pro.
A 16 mega-pixel F2.0 camera with PDAF is specced on the rear, which sounds like the same spec as the Mi5 but without OIS, The front camera is an 8 mega-pixel unit also with F2.0 aperture.
Update: seems the camera specs were a little mixed up and the Mi4s has a 13 mega-pixel camera not a 16 mega-pixel. We need to also confirm the aperture and front camera details.
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Specification changes continue with a 6 core Snapdragon 808 chipset, 3GB RAM, 64GB EMMC 5.0 memory, and even micro SD to boot (or dual SIM cards).
Xiaomi have even found time to boost the battery capacity to 3260mAh which is charged for USB Type 2 and Fast Charge 2.0.
The Mi4S will support all Chinese networks out of the box and will also include VoLTE. The launch date is the 1st March (the same as the Mi5) with pricing being a very competitive 1699 Yuan.
Look amazing to me and it is Great on the paper at least. i will wait for a ful review to see how does that battery perform.but are you sure it has 16 mp and 8 mp instead of 13/5 ? I have a doubt about that.
Im confirming now, the cloud image says 13 but our source said 16.
Thank you
well im just waiting to see what vivo has to offer, will oppo release anything else too later on?
Nothing from Oppo for MWC other than the charge and camera tech. Xplay 5 looks like its going to be the most interesting
nah. thanks. I’m infinitely disappointed in Ciao-mi. Maybe I will have a change of mind but not now.
Actually not a bad phone at all.
I was thinking the same… beats my OnePlus out of the water (and people complain!), while it means significant saves. This ‘super-mid range’ phones are winning my heart. Just can’t justify the premium any longer.
If it only supported 800MHz LTE. 🙁 I don’t understand why they do it. People were able to unlock the frequencies on some Xiaomi phones. The HW can support it but it is blocked in SW.
That’s what I expected mi4c to be.
Very true, but price positioning is strange. Way too close to Mi5.
On the other hand, maybe that’s it – it’s close to Mi5 just to keep low profile and just so customers are not dragged away from Mi5, later they can offer interesting discounts…
So, it’s going to be a mSD verisonof Mi4c, with a higher price … quite disappointing.
I’d rather go for cheaper Mi4c, or slightly more expenesive Mi5 entry.
…and fingerprint, metal and +32gb
Does it support LTE band 20?
This seems to be a more fitting device for me, since the Mi5 is too expensive.
Actually it would be madness to get this instead of the cheapest Mi5.
Why?
The Mi5 has only 32GB rom and costs 1999Yuan which is 288€ and with assumed free shipping it is 350€ incl. VAT.
( I only want to pay ~200€).
But on the Mi4S I get 64GB rom and only pay 1699 Yuan, which is 236€ -> 280€ incl. VAT (much closer to the ~200€, <=230€)
Selling SD808 is not acceptable anymore. they should have retired the 4c not launch more of it.
True I am disappointed, would have preferred a SD650 SOC on the MI4S. I mean the MI4C’s will have a price cut soon so it is better to go for the Prime MI4C instead the MI4S.
Or the Note 3 Pro if it meets one’s needs.
The SD650 doesn’t throttle and it is faster in both CPU and GPU
Note the long term perf numbers (scroll all the way down) https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfxgen&did1=28864307&os1=Android&api1=gl&hwtype1=GPU&hwname1=Qualcomm+Adreno+%28TM%29+510&D2=Xiaomi+MI+4C
The 4C is still one one of the best midranger or there. It needed an update with metal body.
The SoC is way more than enough for the category. Better than SD615, SD616, SD617 MT6752, MT6753 that other companies are using lately
The SoC is defective, there is no other way to put it. Better than much much cheaper ones (that actually work as advertised i might add) is not a valid argument.
Where did you read that it’s defective? I haven’t read anything regarding that.
There always going to be better SoCs but that’s not enough.
SD650 would be an alternative in the same price range if not cheaper, it is a valid alternative not a random example.
Pretty much everybody knows SD808 is defective, including you.
When a product can’t function as advertised , it is defective and SD808 can’t come even close to advertised speeds.
If you insist on playing dumb, compare on screen T-Rex perf for the 4c vs long term performance in that GFX bench in my comment. The difference is caused by throttling. You got 25.8 Fps and then it overheats and performance drops to 20.7 Fps.
On the CPU side you can see here towards the bottom of the page how LG G4 and Nexus 5x throttle with just the 2 big cores loaded http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review/5
But you already knew that you just need to defend Xiaomi at all cost.
I’m not defending Xiaomi at any cost. I’m trying to figure out what you mean by defective.
So everything that runs below 25 fps is defective in your opinion?
You forget we are talking about a mid ranger.
The link you provided doesn’t mention any drop in framerate.
Phones don’t have cooling systems so we can’t pursue crazy performances and not deal with heat.
And lastly, not everybody is a benchmark junkie.
All the SD808 phones (Xiaomi and non) runs smoothly better than SD615 and better than SD810.
The phone wasn’t born to achieve crazy performance for gamers.
It’s a $200 phone.
Sure, there are better SoCs out there and better are coming but they might be more pricey.
Companies (not just Xiaomi) build a phone that satisfy the majority of the customers and not just gamers.
oh wow
lol ok just keep saying random things
Huh? Who me?
You gotta be kidding me. Lol
I always ask you details about phones and you come out speaking of A72 arm cores or bringing benchmark scores.
I asked you a reliable source that states that the SoC is defective.
You’re an idiot and obviously you don’t know what the definition of “defective” is. MaxPower’s argument is logical, your’s is fan-boyish.
The 4c doesn’t throttle and 808 was chosen over the 810 as flagship by several OEMs because it didn’t throttle. I know you love your X10 but i am STILL waiting for your X20.
still my top 1 mid-range !
I honestly don’t see how a metal body is an upgrade though. If you “wear” a case -if anything- it’s a downgrade as it interferes with the signal (yeah there are the “signal bars”, but in principle a non-metal body is better) without it (the metal body) being visible to onlookers. If you don’t “wear” a case it gets trashed very rapidly.
As for the look itself, it’s obviously a personal preference. I’m not accustomed to see “shining objects” as valuable, others are. A material that’s durable is premium (to me at least), one that is not, it isn’t, no matter whether it shines or not…
That’s what the market says:
Metal makes the phone feel more premium.
My opinion?
Just like you, I prefer a good plastic
(The Moto G if you know what I’m talking about)
The phone looks good, lighter and lasts longer.
I know and I honestly can’t see why… Coca Cola cans are aluminum, nobody thinks of them as “premium”, I think it’s the “shiny factor” .
Premium plastic, or carbon fiber honestly feels great to the hand too… oh well, metal phones is a trend and it will probably be replaced eventually, hopefully with a more … suitable material…
very well said.
$260 :/
Look amazing to me and it is Great on the paper at least. i will wait for a ful review to see how does that battery perform.but are you sure it has 16 mp and 8 mp instead of 13/5 ? I have a doubt about that.
Im confirming now, the cloud image says 13 but our source said 16.
Thank you
well im just waiting to see what vivo has to offer, will oppo release anything else too later on?
Nothing from Oppo for MWC other than the charge and camera tech. Xplay 5 looks like its going to be the most interesting
nah. thanks. I’m infinitely disappointed in Ciao-mi. Maybe I will have a change of mind but not now.
Actually not a bad phone at all.
I was thinking the same… beats my OnePlus out of the water (and people complain!), while it means significant saves. This ‘super-mid range’ phones are winning my heart. Just can’t justify the premium any longer.
That’s what I expected mi4c to be.
If it only supported 800MHz LTE. 🙁 I don’t understand why they do it. People were able to unlock the frequencies on some Xiaomi phones. The HW can support it but it is blocked in SW.
Very true, but price positioning is strange. Way too close to Mi5.
On the other hand, maybe that’s it – it’s close to Mi5 just to keep low profile and just so customers are not dragged away from Mi5, later they can offer interesting discounts…
So, it’s going to be a mSD version of Mi4c, with a higher price … quite disappointing.
I’d rather go for cheaper Mi4c, or slightly more expenesive Mi5 entry.
…and fingerprint, metal and +32gb
This seems to be a more fitting device for me, since the Mi5 is too expensive.
Actually it would be madness to get this instead of the cheapest Mi5.
Why?
The Mi5 has only 32GB rom and costs 1999Yuan which is 288€ and with assumed free shipping it is 350€ incl. VAT.
( I only want to pay ~200€).
But on the Mi4S I get 64GB rom and only pay 1699 Yuan, which is 236€ -> 280€ incl. VAT (much closer to the ~200€, <=230€)
I got the mi4c, very happy with it for the time being.
Selling SD808 is not acceptable anymore. they should have retired the 4c not launch more of it.
True I am disappointed, would have preferred a SD650 SOC on the MI4S. I mean the MI4C’s will have a price cut soon so it is better to go for the Prime MI4C instead the MI4S.
The 4C is still one one of the best midranger or there. It needed an update with metal body.
The SoC is way more than enough for the category. Better than SD615, SD616, SD617 MT6752, MT6753 that other companies are using lately
The SoC is defective, there is no other way to put it. Better than much much cheaper ones (that actually work as advertised i might add) is not a valid argument.
SD650 50% better sustained GPU perf https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfxgen&did1=28864307&os1=Android&api1=gl&hwtype1=GPU&hwname1=Qualcomm+Adreno+%28TM%29+510&D2=Xiaomi+MI+4C
Significantly better single threaded perf (before overheating,that can cripple SD808 further) http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/5394159?baseline=5393675
The point being that they have alternatives today and choosing SD808 is absolutely not ok. For anyone, not just Xiaomi.
Or the Note 3 Pro if it meets one’s needs.
The SD650 doesn’t throttle and it is faster in both CPU and GPU
Note the long term perf numbers (scroll all the way down) https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfxgen&did1=28864307&os1=Android&api1=gl&hwtype1=GPU&hwname1=Qualcomm+Adreno+%28TM%29+510&D2=Xiaomi+MI+4C
Where did you read that it’s defective? I haven’t read anything regarding that.
There always going to be better SoCs but that’s not enough.
still my top 1 mid-range !
I honestly don’t see how a metal body is an upgrade though. If you “wear” a case -if anything- it’s a downgrade as it interferes with the signal (yeah there are the “signal bars”, but in principle a non-metal body is better) without it (the metal body) being visible to onlookers. If you don’t “wear” a case it gets trashed very rapidly.
As for the look itself, it’s obviously a personal preference. I’m not accustomed to see “shining objects” as valuable, others are. A material that’s durable is premium (to me at least), one that is not, it isn’t, no matter whether it shines or not…
That’s what the market says:
Metal makes the phone feel more premium.
My opinion?
Just like you, I prefer a good plastic
(The Moto G if you know what I’m talking about)
The phone looks good, lighter and lasts longer.
I know and I honestly can’t see why… Coca Cola cans are aluminum, nobody thinks of them as “premium”, I think it’s the “shiny factor” .
Premium plastic, or carbon fiber honestly feels great to the hand too… oh well, metal phones is a trend and it will probably be replaced eventually, hopefully with a more … suitable material…
SD650 would be an alternative in the same price range if not cheaper, it is a valid alternative not a random example.
Pretty much everybody knows SD808 is defective, including you.
When a product can’t function as advertised , it is defective and SD808 can’t come even close to advertised speeds.
If you insist on playing dumb, compare on screen T-Rex perf for the 4c vs long term performance in that GFX bench in my comment. The difference is caused by throttling. You got 25.8 Fps and then it overheats and performance drops to 20.7 Fps.
On the CPU side you can see here towards the bottom of the page how LG G4 and Nexus 5x throttle with just the 2 big cores loaded http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review/5
But you already knew that you just need to defend Xiaomi at all cost.
I’m not defending Xiaomi at any cost. I’m trying to figure out what you mean by defective.
So everything that runs below 25 fps is defective in your opinion?
You forget we are talking about a mid ranger.
The link you provided doesn’t mention any drop in framerate.
Phones don’t have cooling systems so we can’t pursue crazy performances and not deal with heat.
And lastly, not everybody is a benchmark junkie.
All the SD808 phones (Xiaomi and non) runs smoothly better than SD615 and better than SD810.
The phone wasn’t born to achieve crazy performance for gamers.
It’s a $200 phone.
Sure, there are better SoCs out there and better are coming but they might be more pricey.
Companies (not just Xiaomi) build a phone that satisfy the majority of the customers and not just gamers.
The 4c doesn’t throttle and 808 was chosen over the 810 as flagship by several OEMs because it didn’t throttle. I know you love your X10 but i am STILL waiting for your X20.
very well said.
oh wow
lol ok just keep saying random things
Huh? Who me?
You gotta be kidding me. Lol
I always ask you details about phones and you come out speaking of A72 arm cores or bringing benchmark scores.
I asked you a reliable source that states that the SoC is defective.
You’re an idiot and obviously you don’t know what the definition of “defective” is. MaxPower’s argument is logical, your’s is fan-boyish.
This phone makes me sad…cause I will never get my hands on it.
Beautiful and balanced. Best mid-ranger out there. WD Xiaomi.
$260 :/
I got the mi4c, very happy with it for the time being.
This phone makes me sad…cause I will never get my hands on it.
Beautiful and balanced. Best mid-ranger out there. WD Xiaomi.
Any info about Audio Specs? DAC+amp???
With the launch of the Mi5 this seems rather redundant.
Will there be a European version soon?
Any info about Audio Specs? DAC+amp???
actually its for competing oneplus x..! can i get one in india
With the launch of the Mi5 this seems rather redundant.
Will there be a European version soon?
a geekbench result , with the 4s in heat (lol) http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/5405005?baseline=5401382
actually its for competing oneplus x..! can i get one in india
a geekbench result , with the 4s in heat (lol) http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/5405005?baseline=5401382
And what about the rumored MI5 Plus or whatever it is called? The one with the bigger display? I would gladly buy a 6″ (or 5.7″ at worse) Mi5 phone…
And what about the rumored MI5 Plus or whatever it is called? The one with the bigger display? I would gladly buy a 6″ (or 5.7″ at worse) Mi5 phone…
Please Xiaomi bring out a European version soon!
Please Xiaomi bring out a European version soon!
Пошли в продажу уже по 300$ на aliexpress. Цена немножко кусается, но он того стоит!!!
http://mygip.ru/xiaomi-mi4s/
Пошли в продажу уже по 300$ на aliexpress. Цена немножко кусается, но он того стоит!!!
http://mygip.ru/xiaomi-mi4s/