Doogee F2 Ibiza investigated over inconsistent processor specifications


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While browsing GizChina.es today I came across this very interesting and quite shocking article about Doogee specifications. Keep reading for the details.

For those of you who want the full article (in Spanish) head over to GizChina.es. For the purpose of this article I am just highlighting the details discovered in the report which are shocking (if found to be true) to say the least.

While testing the Doogee F2 Ibiza, GizChina.es discovered an inconsistency with the claimed specifications, the performance and the details shown by various benchmarking tools.

For those of you not familiar with the Doogee F2 Ibiza, the phone is listed as a MT6732 phone. The MT6732 being a 1.5Ghz, 64bit quad-core SoC, however during Antutu (and various other benchmarks) the information showed the phone running an octacore MT6752.

doogee f2

Normally this would be great news, a free upgrade in processing power! But the performance of the phone didn’t match an MT6752, or even an MT6732. In fact the performance was closer to an MT6582, last years quad-core 32bit chip.

Upon further investigation it was found that the SoC inside the Doogee F2 Ibiza is an ARM v7 SoC the same as the MT6582. The MT6732 and MT6752 are both ARM v8-A. The speed of the SoC in the F2 also matches the 1.3Ghz speed of the quad-core MT6582.

doogee f2

GizChina.es have contacted Doogee about their findings and told the company that they intended to post this information. Doogee replied that this is a mistake and that their management hasn’t the time to discuss these issues.

This is not the first time that Doogee have been accused of misleading customers. Their Doogee DG700 phone, claimed to be IP67 certified, only lasted 1 minute submerged in water. IP67 is only certified to phones that can last at least 30 minutes (video below).

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We will be following GizChina.es to see if there are any updates, and learn what Doogee have to say, but at this moment things are not looking good. We also would love to hear from Doogee for an explanation of the findings.

[ GizChina.es ]
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54 Comments

  1. elmoel
    May 5, 2015

    ok.. doogee enter on my blacklist brand after kingzone ??

    • Bruce S
      May 5, 2015

      I guess most of us are getting used to the idea that many of the Chinese smartphone manufacturers “exaggerate” the specifications of their phones and in this case it would seem Doogee have just gone out of their way to deceive! So we all know we’re getting an economical version of the truth when buying these things. Reviews, time and time again tell us this.

      I bought the Kingzone Z1 knowing they didn’t have a 3500 mAh battery. I am not a “heavy hitter” when it comes to phones; don’t play games and the GPS in my car eats any smartphone GPS any day. Nope; I was looking for a phone to make phone calls; do a bit of e-mail / web surfing and send a few messages and make a few calls via Viber and Line. The Kingzone Z1 does all those things faultlessly – so I’m delighted.

      I could have spent 4 times the amount of money on a Samsung / iPhone / HTC and I’d probably have been just as delighted; but I’d have been $US 600 poorer.

      I’ve had a really rotten experience with Elephone (2 x busted P8’s with loss of sound) – so they top my “black list”. But that certainly hasn’t stopped me buying Chinese phones; overall the functionality and real specifications (despite the deceptions) are still outstanding value for money.

    • Xalis
      May 5, 2015

      Yeah becuase using 1.5GHz instead of 1.3GHz is so outrageours lol, nearly all small brands make this kind of mistakes regarding SoC’s speeds.

      The phone has a MT6732M @ 1.3Ghz, sure it was advertised as 1.5GHz but it’s not has bad as you guys are trying to make it look.

  2. May 5, 2015

    This is serious.

  3. Michel
    May 5, 2015

    Never buy a dodgee i guess, thanks for the warning!

  4. David
    May 5, 2015

    from many time, doogee is not a good brand… many cheats in specifications, and very very low quality phones… i buy phoen s directly to doogee… the latest order only 20 pieces = 4 pieces defective mainboards, not on, 2 defective touch screen, 1 phone than i need open phone for repair, TOTAL= 7 of 20 phones defectives from first day… this is incredible. Also, after 2 / 3 months we customers returneds 2 more phoens with dead motherboard, and another 2 phones with touch screen work bad… in total: 11 of 20 phones defectives in less of 2 months…

    This is incredible… not good brand… extremely very low quality same as typical CLONE phones

    and sorry for my horrible english…

    • balcobomber25
      May 5, 2015

      I have a defective phone from Doogee which they refuse to fix. Within two months the SD/Sim Card reader just stopped working making it largely useless. Both Doogee and the Seller (who shockingly has the same address as Doogee) refused to fix it.

  5. Rob
    May 5, 2015

    If this is true then I find it incredible that they thought they would get away with it and nobody would notice. I’ve purchased phones in the past they were totally fake, advertised octacore and only dual core, 3gb RAM (only had 512mb) and FHD screen (had 860×540) etc. They usually manipulate the ROM to give false readings to benchmark and other apps that read the specs of the phone and it’s not always easy to prove this isn’t the case without stripping the phone down.

    • balcobomber25
      May 5, 2015

      It’s not hard to manipulate the software and benchmarking apps if you know what you are doing. But one thing you can’t manipulate is the speed of the device, that will always be a dead giveaway.

  6. balcobomber25
    May 5, 2015

    Doogee is one of the worst companies I have ever personally dealt with. I am not surprised by this at all. It’s just like their claimed 13 mp cameras which at best are 5 mp. This company is the biggest fraud around. Stay far away from them.

    • Claymore
      May 5, 2015

      Which company would you recommend? I mean based on personal experience. Xiaomi and Meizu always get good reviews, Jiayu looks promising. Ulephone reviews tend to be good as well, but there is a lot of bad user experience over at xda. Findings like these make it even harder to trust the smaller manufacturers like Elephone, Mlais, … One get’s the feeling they’d sell their mother to make a few bucks.

      • balcobomber25
        May 5, 2015

        I have had good luck with THL, Xiaomi, Gionee, Meizu, Huaweii and iOcean. I have friends that swear by Elephone and the P7000 will be the first Elephone I own. Most businesses would sell their mother for an extra buck, not just in China either.

        • Claymore
          May 6, 2015

          Did you preorder the P7000? The regular retail price seems a bit high… I’m still tempted by the Jiayu S3, cause I’m looking for a >5,5″ second phone for couch surfing and running for max 200€. Just care for screen and GPS (+acceptable overall performance)

          • balcobomber25
            May 6, 2015

            I preordered two P7000’s, one for me and one for a coworker who loves Elephones but won’t spend more than $150 on phones (he has the money but he also has 4 kids so a phone is low on his priorities). So I am going to surprise him with it. The Jiayu S3 is 5.5 inches just so you know.

            • Claymore
              May 7, 2015

              Thanks I know… 5,5″ plus capacitive buttons seems just right. The Meizu M1 Note has this dumb on-screen bar with mostly just the back button on it. The Meizu might win in terms of design and build quality, but the Jiayu S3 shows “real” 5,5 inches. If the phone’s wider than 75mm, it’s very uncomfortable holding it in one hand while tracking my run and listening music. I might wait for the P7000 reviews, though. I guess this phone gets a price cut when officially released and sells for 199$ in a few weeks as well…

            • balcobomber25
              May 10, 2015

              The S3 and M1 are both very good phones IMO. Styling is subjective, I like the overall styling of the M1 but I am not a fan of the juvenile colors they offer. The S3 reminds me of the MX4 when it comes to styling and that’s not bad as I love that phone. As for the on screen controls thats part of Flyme. Flyme takes some getting used to but once you do it is a really good OS.

    • Xalis
      May 5, 2015

      You’re just butthurt because they didn’t want to repair your DG2014.

      • balcobomber25
        May 5, 2015

        your just butthurt at the world. Never saw someone with so much negativity in my life. You need a hug or a puppy.

  7. bassa
    May 5, 2015

    split storage? no thanks

  8. balcobomber25
    May 5, 2015

    In the video of the DG700 it didn’t even last a minute, it started to die after about 15 seconds.

    • Vlada
      May 5, 2015

      Mine device did shut down after 10s in Water. It has a hole in the backcover and the water can flow inside without any problems. Fortunately my phone did recover after I dried it.

      But recently I found that one screw which was supposed to hold the metal construction is missing. The phone would be good without these problems and if it had a compass. Unfortunately they did too many mistakes.

  9. hans
    May 5, 2015

    To many o in the name

  10. blackmondy
    May 5, 2015

    There’s a good reason why the name DooGee sounds so close to Dodgy.

    • TheOracle
      May 5, 2015

      Precisely.

  11. Marco Lancaster
    May 5, 2015

    Really bad news! This put Doogee aside in trust ability to the clone or knock-offs manufacturers (totally zero, but you choose) which often sell fake specs.

    • Ramon
      May 6, 2015

      I think this is maybe the result of a bad marketing department director rather than problems in the phones themsleves.

      ¨GizChina.es have contacted Doogee about their findings and told the company that they intended to post this information. Doogee replied that this is a mistake and that their management hasn’t the time to discuss these issues.¨

      Aboviously someone at the company thought this issue did not deserve his time.

  12. Riccardo Benzoni
    May 5, 2015

    they actually never cared about building quality devices and growing their fan base, they only wanted money and they wanted’em ASAP, cutting every possible corner.
    By the way, it seems MT6732M (1.3ghz) is not correctly displayed by Antutu and the likes, so it can be one of these as well. They use a lot of M processors in their smartphones, it could be the case as well. So, we still talk about fake specs (they advertised the regular 1.5 version), and they are handling the situation as the most umprofessional company would do, don’t buy their junk!

  13. Herve Jegou
    May 5, 2015

    Most China based makers will mislead customers about battery capacity (sometimes by as much as 50%!), camera resolution (many 13MP cameras are in fact 8MP cameras with software upscaling) and sometimes processors (more difficult but still happens).
    That is why you should stick to the more reputable ones only (Meizu, Xiaomi, Oppo or Vivo and a few other big companies like Huawei, ZTE, Coolpad, Gionee, TCL/Acatel).
    Everything else is a gamble and you almost always get a lot less than what you pay for…

    • Ramon
      May 6, 2015

      I guess you get what you paid for, though in my experience witht his company you normally get most than with others.

  14. Frank Wu
    May 5, 2015

    As the name implies, they are a dodgy bunch of crooks!

  15. Xalis
    May 5, 2015

    Way to be stupid, the SoC it’s a MT6732M @ 1.3GHz, there case closed.

    Should we investigate Elephone for their Mali T760 MP16 that it’s actually a MP2? or should we also use fucking common sense and realize it’s a web designer mistake and move on?

    Not even the Omvnision 8MP sensor for IMX214 got some many fucking “news” pieces, and that was actually a big mistake from Ulefone.

    • balcobomber25
      May 5, 2015

      I think we found a Doogee employee. You mad bro?

      • Xalis
        May 5, 2015

        No I just feel it’s my duty to step in when there is a collective of people going full retard, you never go full retard, for the sanity and quality of this tech blog.

        What did this “discovery” deserve? a foot note:

        “We find that the Doogee Ibiza F2 doesn’t comes with the advertised MT6532 @ 1.5GHz, but with the slower version the MT6532M @ 1.3GHz, we will contact Doogee and ask for an explanation, and ask them to correct their publicity to the correct specs”

        Not a fucking witch hunt full of miss information, do they need to be held accountable for their publicity? of course, do they deserve the witch hunt? plain and simple no.

        http://i.imgur.com/Qf0CqDx.jpg

        • balcobomber25
          May 6, 2015

          You jump straight to the frequency but completely ignore the most blatant evidence:

          “Upon further investigation it was found that the SoC inside the Doogee F2 Ibiza is an ARM v7 SoC the same as the MT6582.”

          If it was the 6732M it would still be an ARM v8 Soc. This isn’t a witch hunt, a company was caught lying about a spec. It’s the job of Gizchina to write about everything related to Chinese phones, good and bad. They wrote the same thing about Ulefone when they were caught lying about their camera.

          • Xalis
            May 6, 2015

            Oh yeah that investigation using the same software displaying the wrong CPU model, sure sounds reliable.

            A little bit of common sense would tell you that the SoC it’s a MT6732M hell do you think Doogee can go and physically mark a MT6582 as MT6732?

            For fuck sake people use the god damn brain, gizchina is just fishing for ad revenue, I refuse to believe that they would let such “mistake” on their part go unedited for 24 hours, they are not amateurs they fucking know that the SoC it’s a MT6732M, all the evidence it’s on their hands.

            • balcobomber25
              May 6, 2015

              “They know the SoC is a MT6732M, all the evidence is on their hands”. Which evidence would this be? A Wikipedia article you posted? What if they took the phone apart and saw that it was a 6582?

            • Xalis
              May 6, 2015

              Oh you mean like the pic at gizchina.es showing main board with the SoC?

              MT6732V
              1437-MAHHAH
              CTT4P596

            • balcobomber25
              May 6, 2015

              That article doesn’t sound too good for your bosses at Doogee….

            • Xalis
              May 6, 2015

              Too hard to admit you were wrong? time to grow up.

            • balcobomber25
              May 7, 2015

              Not wrong about anything. I haven’t said one way or the other whether they did or didn’t use a certain SoC. What I have said is this isn’t a witch hunt but a simple investigation. There is still too many question marks to make a decision one way or another. If there is conclusive evidence that turns out this is much to do about nothing I will gladly admit I was wrong. But right now it doesn’t look good for your company.

            • Juan
              May 7, 2015

              You seem a little bit of a hatter to me. Someone paying you for this?

            • balcobomber25
              May 7, 2015

              Doogee does enough harm on their own no one needs to pay someone to make them look bad.

  16. Xalis
    May 5, 2015

    I would hate being hunted down because a third party software gives a bad reading of the hardware and ****** instead of using common sense start running around pulling their hair and screaming SCAM SCAM!

    And the worse part is that the ones starting this are Gizchina writers, people that it’s supposed to be “experts”, a quick trip to wikipedia would have told you all you needed to know, but I guess that doesn’t brings page hits and ad revenue.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaTek
    http://i.imgur.com/9kx0VcX.png

    Hey Andi, Eduardo, Yash, where can I expect a witch hunt for Elephone?

    My p6000 only has 2 Mali-T760 cores, and I was promised 16!!! MOAR COARS PXLS!
    http://i.imgur.com/q9uiMQU.png

  17. jimberkas
    May 5, 2015

    quelle suprise! what a joke. doogee just killed themselves, if they hadn’t done so before. gives a bad rep to these cheap china phones, when so many others are trying pretty hard to build good reps.

  18. Verzwei
    May 6, 2015

    I have a DG550 and it’s a great device, but I’ll be jumping to the Mlais ship soon. They seem more reliable.

  19. Ramon
    May 6, 2015

    I do not know, my Valencia 2 has served me for long time. Is it so bad this problem?

  20. May 6, 2015

    There is one very simple way of figuring out what’s going on, or actually two ways. First: Install the game “Dead Trigger 2”. This game won’t work with KitKat on the new Mediatek 64-bit processors. There isn’t a single phone that is able to run this game. If the Doogee does, it runs on a 32-bit chipset. Second way: Take it apart and get the mainboard out. The processor always has the model number printed on it. Safest way to verify what they built inside.

    • balcobomber25
      May 6, 2015

      Yea someone needs to do a teardown of this right away and see what is really in there. Although I have a feeling that will open a bigger can of worms with more fake parts discovered.

    • Xalis
      May 7, 2015

      Dead Trigger 2 works on my Mlais M52, so looks like they have patched the game to work with 64bit MediaTek SoCs, I will try with the p6000 later.

      Funny how it would take any of us 30min with the phone to find out the truth but GizChina doesn’t seem interested in finding out the truth it’s not like it would be hard for them to check whats the actual SoC.

      • May 8, 2015

        On Lollipop it does, on KitKat it doesn’t.

        • Xalis
          May 8, 2015

          Well it’s not like Eduardo cares about finding the truth is more worried about censoring if you expose his “investigation”, yesterday posted at gizchina.es 4 ways to find out the real SoC and how it would take him 30min to do the 4 ways and he just deleted the post, with your Dead Trigger 2 test it would be 5 extremely easy ways to check the SoC version.

          But guess what, they will just keep this post alive and never do any testing, in the end it’s not their reputation the one that it’s being wrongly tainted, and I’m not defending Doogee fuck up of marketing the Ibiza F2 has a MT6732 instead of the real MT6732M, they should be accountable for that, but the way Eduardo handled this is disgusting and more gossip than an investigation.

          • balcobomber25
            May 10, 2015

            How is it disgusting? He noticed something that wasn’t right so he wrote an article about it. He attempted to contact the company for clarification they refused to talk to him. He never blatantly came out and said they did this they are guilty. He tried to do everything possible to get a resolution to his problem.