The excitement is mounting in the OnePlus camp as the first teasers of the OnePlus 2 are published.
The OnePlus One was a roaring success thanks to the combination of Cyanogen, low-cost, good hardware and some viral marketing, but now it’s time to put the original to bed and get on with the successor! The OnePlus 2.
Teasers of the 2nd generation OP2 have been posted showing the outline of the new phone, which seems to share a similar shilouette to the current 2014 flagship killer. We still have a long way to go before the final specifications are release, but sources in China claim the phone will retain 3GB RAM and 1080p display but gain a Snapdragon 810 processor.
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A fingerprint scanner has also been rumoured with “better than Touch ID” features. The final detail is that there is likely to be 2 new OnePlus phones. A flagship to replace the OPO and a mid-range phone with lower specs and more affordable price tag.
What are your hopes for the OnePlus 2? Do you think the lack of Cyanogen might hinder their performance 2nd time around?
for me the oneplus2 should have a either a 6 inch screen with same dimensions
or smaller of 5.5 inch screen but smaller. onscreen buttons will be
best. 1080 for the screen is enough. it should have dual boot
android/windows 4gb ram and the either 64gb or 128gb ROM. battery should
be at least 4000mAH with fast charging( and wireless charging)and
removable . also it should have the latest mediatek processor. 16-23mp
camera back and at least 8mp front. metal body. and maybe something
similar curved screen as on the note edge( not s6 edge). price should be
around 300 euro or less
Wake up kid.
_less bezels will be for sure. we’re more then 1 year later
_if they have 64 gb then dual boot shouldn’t be a problem( windows is free, see tablets)
_a 4000mah battery isn’t that unsual anymore. remember i have 3200mah in my 1+1
_The 13mp sony camera is sold out and if they want to improve 16-23mp is same as 13mp last year
_ mediatek proccessor should lower the cost.
_ just see what letv did with they’re phone and they aren’t as cheap as oneplus
dual boot? they can’t even ship ONE operating system! you want them to support two?
wait… aren’t they doing that… Oxygen and Hydrogen? WTF? perhaps they should just try to keep one up to date!
“just see what letv did with they’re phone and they aren’t as cheap as oneplus”
What are you exactly comparing here?
“they want to improve 16-23 mp is the same as 13 mp last year”. This doesn’t even make sense. What is the same about them? Where is the improvement? Does the bigger name equate to better pictures? I know a certain phone from a fruity company that has an 8mp sensor and takes some of the best pictures of any phone available.
The way these companies need to improve their phones is to forget the MP race and instead focus on using better lenses and optimizing the software. Apple figured this out ages ago which is why their lowly 8mp sensors are often the comparison point for every new sensor released.
You are tight man. Very insightful.
You are right man. Very insightful.
I have tested that fruity company products but they have optimized everything from Camera to resolution and they seem to be nailing it every-time all the time with less numbers the IP6+ says it all.
Yea I am not a fan of their ecosystem (much too closed for me) but I will give them credit where credit is due, they make amazing products. I own a Macbook Pro which is one of the best built laptops I have ever used, but I use Ubuntu on it lol.
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Take a look at the below link and should answer any questions you have. I have a 2013 Macbook Pro and virtually everything worked right out of the box, the only thing I had to find was the wifi drivers, but the community was able to point me in the right direction for those.
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They are not going to steal hardware components are they?
Give us the same specs as the G4 at half the price and they’ll hit another home run!
why does everyone forget the software!
Seems we think the same! Too many people these days focus just on specs but don’t realize that can all come undone if the software is horrible. It’s one of the reasons I have stayed with Xiaomi through the years, there are better spec phones for better price but I know with Xiaomi I am always going to have a stable OS that is updated often.
Direct software support from Google is why I went (back) to Nexus devices.
Lets hope there is a second generation Nexus 5 🙂
It looks like you’ll definitely be getting your wish. In fact there may be two devices this cycle, a low-end and high-end device.
I loved the Nexus line initially had everyone up until the Nexus 4. Just coudn’t fall in love with the 4 and then the 5 was just so boring looking to me and the 6 scared me off with the size. Although now after using a 5.7 inch phone, I think I want to try a 6 inch phone and see if I can live with it.
The Nexus 6 is the best device I’ve ever had. It’s fast, well designed, has a beautiful screen, and fast charging.
This, plus the fact that it just works with all the Google services I’ve grown dependent upon, make it the best choice for me.
Every once in a while a manufacturer comes out with some compelling hardware (like LeTV’s Max, Nubia’s X6 and X8 w/dual SIMs, Vivo’s Xplay 3S, etc.) but none have been able to make the grade with the software. Oh, and before anyone blasts me on my choices, I only like large screens! I’ve got big hands and bad eyes! 😉
I really wanted the LeTV Max to be a phone worth buying, but can’t trust them on the software updates.
I used to fear big screen phones but all that changed when I had to travel to South Korea a few years ago for a contract my company has with Sammy. While I was there they asked me if I wanted to try out the yet to be released Note 3 for the 2 weeks I was there. If I didn’t hate Touchwhiz so much I would own a Note phone. Just feels amazing in the hands but I just can’t get by their horrid software, it feels to juvenile for me. I tried several 5.5 inches but they just didn’t feel the same as the Note, I ended up with an iOcean X8 as my work phone which I love.
One thing that I hadn’t considered is location. I think I’d be a lot let enamored with my Nexus 6 if I was spending a lot of time in China. A big part of it’s appeal is the nearly flawless integration with Google services, so in places where Google is blocked, the device would be crippled.
I’m sure I wouldn’t want to operate with Hangouts and Google Voice. Having reliable and high quality worldwide access to VoIP really helps for all my non-local communications. And it’s so cheap to use that $10 I put into my Voice account 2 years ago is still more than half unused!
I’m sure my experience wouldn’t be as good if I wasn’t such a heavy user of international calling, but as an expat in Hong Kong or Singapore, it’s nearly an ideal phone.
On top of location is the price it sells for in some international markets. The Nexus 6 in Thailand (if you can even find it) will cost you well over $800. The Nexus 4 here still sells for over $350. For the price of the Nexus 6 here I can lose my Mi4, buy a new one and still have money left over.
I was quite disappointed with the support for the Nexus 7, which became useless with the last two updates. As for now I will stay with Xiaomi as for the phones, but I’m exploring something else for the tablets.
Snapdragon 810, no thanks
You know, I really don’t get the mindless assumption that the 810 overheats. The whole overheating issue was bad reporting on a batch of test silicon.
The main reason why LG and others went with the 808 is cost. They were just cheap and greedy and wanted a few extra dollars from themselves.
Here’s a tip for LG, are you listening? If you want to save some money: fire your OS dev team and ship stock Android instead. Oh, and also fire the guy that lets T-mobile, Verizon and AT&T hold back software releases.
I used to make these comments too but everyday I open up the various tech blogs I visit there is a new story of the 810 overheating. I think more 810 phones need to be released and tested because there is so much misinformation out there right now and its tough to believe any of it.
I think it’s going to be a moot point. The 810 is never really going to get a chance. The volume purchasing went with the 808 (due to a price/performance hot spot) and the bad press for the 810 has forced Qualcomm to rush the 820 into production.
The 820 is better in just about every way, and they’ll likely price it the same as the 810 to get quicker adoption and erase the overheating “scandal”. In the end the 810 is ending up with a 3-6mo window for being “top dog” and won’t ever really ship in volume.
We will have 820 based phones shipping in time for the Christmas shopping season. And that is really only 3 or 4 months from now.
There are still quite a few phones shipping with the 810 like Xperia Z4, One Plus Two, Mi Note Pro and Nubia Z9. So we should get a good idea of how good or bad it is.
Qualcomm wasn’t prepared for 64 bit SoC’s. They were badly designed and implemented from the start. And they certainly weren’t prepared to handle the media backlash that came with them. This was one area were Mediatek not only caught up but surpassed them. The problems extend to their other chips as well, the 615 has some of the same issues and the 410 is vastly under-powered even for budget phones.
Lack of CM + reported higher price + Snapdragon 810 + OPO weird marketing (i.e.invite system) = sales disaster this time around.
higher price is just a guess. some ask the question if the oneplus 2 wold be 400 or something and they said could be. be if the price is the same now the have extra hype and that’s what oneplus is all about. now that more people know the company sales will be even higher if they put out a similar device as 1+1 but with 1015/16 specs. invite will be much smoother now because last time the serious underestimated the sales potential.
A lot of people bought this phone specifically because it came stock with CM, they will lose those sales. Given the way they have fumbled repeatedly over the past year what leads you to believe the invite system will be any better? Just your love for the company? Because they have shown absolutely nothing to suggest it will be better this time. The One Plus was a revolutionary phone for it’s time it offered flagship specs a decent design, great software and a low price at a time when if you wanted all of those you had to pay for it. But the market has evolved so quickly that now even brands like Jiayu, Elephone and Umi are offering phones with flagship specs for low prices. One Plus will always have it’s diehard fans just like Xiaomi does but the One Plus Two will be just another phone to most. It won’t be as ground breaking as the original was and a big reason for that is a lack of CM.
now they will begin with enough stock and people will get the phone faster and who says the the won’t be revolutionary this time around? just see at what letv has done as a first time company and oneplus will be better than that one. probably they will do the same. one with mediatek and one with qualcomm and then they will be surprised that the qualcomm doesn’t sell like the white 16gb last time
Lol I give you One Plus fans credit your level of optimize never dies for this company. Goodluck with your invite system this time around, I’ll be here to read all the excuses as to why it was a disaster for a second time.
As for the phone itself they certainly can build a very good flagship phone but it won’t be revolutionary like the last one was. LeTV build a great phone, it wasn’t groundbreaking in any way, shape or form the way the original One+ was. Those types of phones are extremely rare.
last time i got an early member invite so I had the phone pretty quick. Lets just see what they’ll bring this time around. Everything you’ve said so far. They already know and they probably anticipated on it.
We shall see.
I totally agree with you on this. One Plus has spent their credibility, and as you’ve said, the market has evolved quickly so they don’t even have a price advantage anymore.
There doesn’t seem to be any positive differentiators for them from the pack, and now they have a history of not delivering on schedule and breaking support promises to their customers.
They had this problem the first time they tried to break out (as Oppo with the Find 5) and now again as OPO. Different spots, but the same leopard, and same outcome.
I wanted OnePlus to be different in a good way, and it’s turned out that the only real differentiator is their horrible marketing practices.
I work as a marketing consultant for the Asian technology industry. My colleagues and I would sit back most days in the office and just laugh at the stumbling each time OPO had a press release. I can never remember a company that failed at PR as much as they did this past year. It was like their boardroom was a group of circus monkeys throwing bananas at a whiteboard of ideas and whatever landed closest was their plan.
and everyone knows opo now, but your company…
There’s a difference between knowing your company and knowing your company for the wrong reasons. Some people may say there’s no such thing as bad publicity, but OnePlus has managed to achieve that.
The people who need to know my company know it. We are a well respected marketing and research firm throughout Asia.
Your argument makes perfect sense but I think you will be surprised.
I doubt it. I think they will make a very capable phone with good specs but I am willing to bet the demand for it, isn’t what it was last year.
Balcobomber is a godamn genius,now the competition is 20 times stronger with the mtk full option cheapskates,so a lot of geeks will leave op2 pass by
Yep I think you’re right here balco, I just can’t see them selling anywhere near as well as the One has done, in my experience in the OnePlus forum over the last 18months I’d say that the vast majority are Cyanogen supporters and it seems that OxygenOS just doesn’t cut the mustard…
Might be the end of OnePlus this year only for another to take it’s place in the future if some new start-up company fancies offering high spec, low price and can get Cyanogen on board again that is…
And I’m looking forward to see if they will manage to do updates to their systems constantly, or even for new Android versions faster. Now they have to deal with sells, crazy marketing and even the Rom Support.
And for all of that I have a feeling its going to be just like big brother OPPO which from my experience has not been good.
its an OPO, it’s definitely going to get CM at some point, from the dev community of course. Also the snapdragon 810 is a very good chipset especially if they are going for the revised version and not the one in HTC one M9 e.t.c
It wont be an official version of CM which is what everyone wanted. That was why so many people loved this brand because it was officially supports by CM which meant regular updates by CM built specifically for that phone. That is all gone now and OPO will have its own OS. Every strong phone community ports CM to their device but it’s not an official build for that device. The problems for the 810 continue to mount and affect a lot more than just HTC. Even the revised version reportedly is suffering from overheating problems.
Whatever it is,i am sure it will create initial hype and peak in market..OPO deserves that..the phone that initially challenged the industry..All eyes on camera!
The OPO was NOT the phone that initially challenged the industry, far from it actually. Originally it was phones from Meizu and Oppo that managed to challenge other high end brands, but Chinese phones had yet to see success back then. Chinese phones really started becoming popular when Xiaomi released the M1. Back then, even most international websites were alert to the M1, and many people even bought the M1 from overseas.
Yea people have short memories when it comes to things like this. There have been multiple brands from China that were challenging the industry long before OPO was released. The Xiaomi Mi3 for instance offered the same flagship specs at the same low price, a year before the OPO was released.
Lack of cm is not a problem, since it will be available eventually especially due to the presence of qualcomm soc, but the higher price tag will be the problem. If it has similar price to s6 or g4, simply people will choose such brands than oneplus.
They have never said conclusively that the price will be higher. I think this is just to create hype when price is close to the last one
Their CEO has hinted it will cost 2499 yuan.
what happend was that someone on reddit asked if the oneplus2 would be around 400 and they responded that that would be a fair price. and now everyone is assuming…
It was actually on his Weibo page someone asked him how much a SD 810 would be and he said 2499 would be a reasonable price. Meaning expect that to be the minimum the Two will be selling for.
I know you are a die hard fan and will be as optimistic as possible, I do the same with Xiaomi. But the writing is all there for you to see…
I read about One Plus “delaying” their 5.1 OS update and wrote an editorial piece:
Basically, I’ve had enough of their broken promises. Instead of saying they have a small team and can’t get the software out as they promised, they should hire some more developers. After all, they originally forecasted selling 50,000 OnePlusOnes, and they sold millions… how about putting some of that profit back into delivering on their software promises???
The whole “we are a small company” argument from OPO and its fans is getting old. They are a shell company for one of the largest cell phone companies in China, OPPO. They have the resources to accomplish everything they need to.
Flash the OP2 with CM12.1 like a boss. Problem solved. All I need is an invite.
Lack of CM should not be a problem.
Overpricing, possible overheating issues of SD810 and making an unexcited handset could be their real problems.
I disagree everyone I know who bought an OPO bought it specifically for CM. I am not just talking about a few close friends I am talking about entire communities of forums that I belong to. The specs were the same ones offered by Xiaomi the difference for many was CM.
If they can offer an appealing device for a great price they can sell it to less picky audience especially people who looking for a bargain.
Of course they can but it won’t match the demand for the original OPO. That demand was created by CM. They can make a phone with demand similar to what we have seen from the Elephone P7000, Jiayu S3 or Zenfone 2. Which all sold very well but never came close to matching the hype of the original OPO. The key though is they have to match those phones in specs and price. I have a feeling this new phone is going to be over $400 which will scare a lot of people off. I have watched OPPO over the years and their phones always increase in price when a new model comes out.
My guess is that they COULD HAVE done it without CM, but didn’t commit. 1+ dropped the ball with the Oxygen OS. They promised a lightweight “stock” Android experience, then they didn’t put adequate resources on the project. They should have been making releases 7day after Google like clockwork, and they should have released an app to the Play store that automatically upgraded the ROM to Oxygen.
They did neither, and in fact have decided to withhold software upgrades until their next phone ships!
Half part of phone is hardware, another parts are softwares. We can see many Chiness phones with good specs, but most of them suck on software. So, offical CM was a big plus for oneplus. Now, oneplus is developing its own OS like stucky and laggy Flyme or others, except mui. Now, i am not interested in oneplus.
Wait for the OnePlus Three is the best.
It’s hard to build a monument but it’s much harder to protect let alone exceed that monument. Oneplus has set the expectation level very high but this year, things are very much different compare to last year. When the One launched last year, snapdragon 801 was excellent, stable & had no worthy opponent, they also had official endorsement from Cyanogen Inc. This year, they have none of that. Their oxygen os is not as feature complete as Cyanogen, snapdragon 810 is a troubled chip. If they use both of that in their new flagship for this year combine with the controversial invite system, then it would be quite an uphill battle for oneplus. I personally wish them best of luck but I will keep my skepticism.
Just another phone, SD 810 wrong choice, no CM wrong choice, invite system “they don’t need this time”, Oxygen OS ugly choice. Low price is the only thing can save Opo this time
810 snapdragon fail chip.. overheating in almost all new highend brands. 808 is a better choice since there is no throttling more accurate higher scores.
Also no CM is gonna hurt opo, and least get another third part custom rom from other developers.
price will 1999yuan acording to new leak
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I had read all the comments thread. And it was a great thread.
No insult, no arrogance, just the way I like Gizchina readers. Keep up the good works guys! 😀