Vernee Apollo Lite has the lossless audio output through USB-C but also the normal jack


The audio lovers are finally lately getting the chance to get proper music quality from their phones with the emergence of the USB-C headphone connector. First one with such feature was the LeEco Le 2 and now the Vernee Apollo Lite is taking things even one step further, because along the USB-C connector option you have also still the 3.5mm classical audio jack.

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The USB Type-C connecter in Apollo Lite supports the fast data transfers but also the lossless audio output, so if you have headphones equipped with that you are in for a treat.

But Vernee is not condemning all the other non-audiophile audience so if you have just the old trustworthy headphones without the USB-C connector no problem using the jack. Choice is yours.

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46 Comments

  1. Muhammad Yasir
    June 14, 2016

    AD ?

    • MattD
      June 14, 2016

      Do you even have to ask when you see it’s a “news” from karel? ?

      • Rob
        June 14, 2016

        Isn’t this about the 3rd time we’ve had this ad about the audio? I thought it was common knowledge that USB c gives lossless audio, hence why they’re moving towards it!

        • MattD
          June 14, 2016

          I’m not totally sure, but maybe it does not give an audio output unless producers enhance it, just like i doesn’t give a quick charge (if you remember, there was a mess about it because op2 had a type c plug but no quick charge)

          EDIT: however, yes… It’s not the first ad we had about apollo lite’s usb audio, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it won’t be the last ?

          • balcobomber25
            June 14, 2016

            The problem is like USB in general, not all Type C is equal. The OnePlus 2 had Type C but it was a USB 2.0 connection which is the reason there was no quick charge. They added it for convenience more than actual function.

            • MattD
              June 14, 2016

              Interesting… Another useless marketing move… Couldn’t expect anything less from them ?

            • Floans
              June 14, 2016

              by the way, digital music output Type-C with 3.5mm jack, i think it’s actually the first one, tell me i am wrong.

            • MattD
              June 14, 2016

              I didn’t get you question, can you put it down clearer please? ?

            • Floans
              June 15, 2016

              LeEco cancelled the 3.5mm jack on Le 2 smartphone, but Apollo Lite still retains the 3.5mm jack.

            • MattD
              June 15, 2016

              Ah, yep, vernee, unlike leeco, kept also the 3.5mm jack!

            • willysson
              June 15, 2016

              I’m familiar with lossless (audio) codecs such as FLAC. Can you or someone else explain what’s going on here? How do they use hardware to produce loss-less audio?

            • NextHype
              June 15, 2016

              The phone simply don’t convert numeric stream to analog signal. Instead the phone send the numeric output through USB, which is converted inside special headphones. So you’ll have to buy very expensive headphones including some kind of DAC inside to convert the numeric stream to analog.

              That’s some kind of scam, as the converting technology is not “new” but excluded from the phone and the cost will be deported to the headphones.

              Don’t be fooled by the loss-less gimmick. If you’re playing a shitty 128mbps MP3 thru a phone’s USB type C, it will still be a shitty 128mbps audio stream. They’re just arguing that, since they don’t convert numeric to analog inside the phone, there is no loss of quality at this point of the chain.

            • Floans
              June 15, 2016

              that also depends on what quality music file you get 🙂

        • quodvadis
          June 14, 2016

          what kind of signal do you think your ears can hear? there is no such thing as lossless in the audio output jack; ALL audio standard need to be in analog wave form in the end whether it’s usb type C or 3.5mm jack.

          in fact, some of the best headphones in the world use 3.5mm jack.

          using usb type c will require you to buy another peripheral and let the manufacturers simplify pcb design which save them money. it’s all a huge scam.

    • balcobomber25
      June 14, 2016

      Of course it’s an AD, it’s from Karel.

  2. roni24
    June 14, 2016

    sweet 🙂
    love it
    and the price is…………?

  3. Guest
    June 14, 2016

    AD ?

    • MattD
      June 14, 2016

      Do you even have to ask when you see it’s a “news” from karel? 😁

    • Rob
      June 14, 2016

      Isn’t this about the 3rd time we’ve had this ad about the audio? I thought it was common knowledge that USB c gives lossless audio, hence why they’re moving towards it!

    • MattD
      June 14, 2016

      I’m not totally sure, but maybe it does not give an audio output unless producers enhance it, just like i doesn’t give a quick charge (if you remember, there was a mess about it because op2 had a type c plug but no quick charge)

      EDIT: however, yes… It’s not the first ad we had about apollo lite’s usb audio, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it won’t be the last 😁

    • balcobomber25
      June 14, 2016

      Of course it’s an AD, it’s from Karel.

    • balcobomber25
      June 14, 2016

      The problem is like USB in general, not all Type C is equal. The OnePlus 2 had Type C but it was a USB 2.0 connection which is the reason there was no quick charge. They added it for convenience more than actual function.

    • MattD
      June 15, 2016

      Interesting… Another useless marketing move… Couldn’t expect anything less from them 😁

    • Liisess
      June 15, 2016

      by the way, digital music output Type-C with 3.5mm jack, i think it’s actually the first one, tell me i am wrong.

    • quodvadis
      June 15, 2016

      what kind of signal do you think your ears can hear? there is no such thing as lossless in the audio output jack; ALL audio standard need to be in analog wave form in the end whether it’s usb type C or 3.5mm jack.

      in fact, some of the best headphones in the world use 3.5mm jack.

      using usb type c will require you to buy another peripheral and let the manufacturers simplify pcb design which save them money. it’s all a huge scam and you’re all going to love it since marketing is ‘never wrong’ lol.

    • MattD
      June 15, 2016

      I didn’t get you question, can you put it down clearer please? 😊

    • Guest
      June 15, 2016

      I’m familiar with lossless (audio) codecs such as FLAC. Can you or someone else explain what’s going on here? How do they use hardware to produce loss-less audio?

    • NextHype
      June 15, 2016

      The phone simply don’t convert numeric stream to analog signal. Instead the phone send the numeric output through USB, which is converted inside special headphones. So you’ll have to buy very expensive headphones including some kind of DAC inside to convert the numeric stream to analog.

      That’s some kind of scam, as the converting technology is not “new” but excluded from the phone and the cost will be deported to the headphones.

      Don’t be fooled by the loss-less gimmick. If you’re playing a shitty 128mbps MP3 thru a phone’s USB type C, it will still be a shitty 128mbps audio stream. They’re just arguing that, since they don’t convert numeric to analog inside the phone, there is no loss of quality at this point of the chain.

    • Liisess
      June 15, 2016

      LeEco cancelled the 3.5mm jack on Le 2 smartphone, but Apollo Lite still retains the 3.5mm jack.

    • Liisess
      June 15, 2016

      that also depends on what quality music file you get 🙂

    • MattD
      June 15, 2016

      Ah, yep, vernee, unlike leeco, kept also the 3.5mm jack!

  4. Guest
    June 14, 2016

    sweet 🙂
    love it
    and the price is…………?

  5. 3llawi
    June 14, 2016

    Mx5 has same feature

  6. 3llawi
    June 15, 2016

    Mx5 has same feature

  7. NextHype
    June 15, 2016

    “But Vernee is not condemning all the other non-audiophile audience so if you have just the old trustworthy headphones without the USB-C connector no problem using the jack”

    Oh thank you Vernee, thank you for not condemning us, poor non-audiophiles, still listening to music with outdated 3.5 jack headphones… It got nothing to do with the debate over Zuk Z2 lack of jack and the fear of sales drop, it’s just pure altruism and we all kow tow 3 times to you oh great Vernee.

    • Floans
      June 15, 2016

      at least, this feature is not totally useless i think.

      • NextHype
        June 15, 2016

        no feature is totally useless as you can always find use for something. I was just ironizing on the way things were expressed : audiophiles use Type-C when non-audiophiles use 3.5 jack. Nothing further from reality.

  8. NextHype
    June 15, 2016

    “But Vernee is not condemning all the other non-audiophile audience so if you have just the old trustworthy headphones without the USB-C connector no problem using the jack”

    Oh thank you Vernee, thank you for not condemning us, poor non-audiophiles, still listening to music with outdated 3.5 jack headphones… It got nothing to do with the debate over Zuk Z2 lack of jack and the fear of sales drop, it’s just pure altruism and we all kow tow 3 times to you oh great Vernee.

    • Liisess
      June 15, 2016

      at least, this feature is not totally useless i think.

    • NextHype
      June 15, 2016

      no feature is totally useless as you can always find use for something. I was just ironizing on the way things were expressed : audiophiles use Type-C when non-audiophiles use 3.5 jack. Nothing further from reality.

  9. E8hffff
    June 15, 2016

    Vernee is only failing with no NFC.

  10. E8hffff
    June 15, 2016

    Vernee is only failing with no NFC.

  11. Steven Fox
    June 16, 2016

    The Apollo Lite looks dope, hope it gets a price drop below 200$ to stay competitive with LeEco 2, and others incoming X20/25 phones.

  12. Steven Fox
    June 16, 2016

    The Apollo Lite looks dope, hope it gets a price drop below 200$ to stay competitive with LeEco 2, and others incoming X20/25 phones.

  13. ARUN SUBRAMANIAN
    June 16, 2016

    Someone review this please!

  14. ARUN SUBRAMANIAN
    June 16, 2016

    Someone review this please!