The audio lovers are finally lately getting the chance to get proper music quality from their phones with the emergence of the USB-C headphone connector. First one with such feature was the LeEco Le 2 and now the Vernee Apollo Lite is taking things even one step further, because along the USB-C connector option you have also still the 3.5mm classical audio jack.
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The USB Type-C connecter in Apollo Lite supports the fast data transfers but also the lossless audio output, so if you have headphones equipped with that you are in for a treat.
But Vernee is not condemning all the other non-audiophile audience so if you have just the old trustworthy headphones without the USB-C connector no problem using the jack. Choice is yours.
AD ?
Do you even have to ask when you see it’s a “news” from karel? ?
Isn’t this about the 3rd time we’ve had this ad about the audio? I thought it was common knowledge that USB c gives lossless audio, hence why they’re moving towards it!
I’m not totally sure, but maybe it does not give an audio output unless producers enhance it, just like i doesn’t give a quick charge (if you remember, there was a mess about it because op2 had a type c plug but no quick charge)
EDIT: however, yes… It’s not the first ad we had about apollo lite’s usb audio, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it won’t be the last ?
The problem is like USB in general, not all Type C is equal. The OnePlus 2 had Type C but it was a USB 2.0 connection which is the reason there was no quick charge. They added it for convenience more than actual function.
Interesting… Another useless marketing move… Couldn’t expect anything less from them ?
by the way, digital music output Type-C with 3.5mm jack, i think it’s actually the first one, tell me i am wrong.
I didn’t get you question, can you put it down clearer please? ?
LeEco cancelled the 3.5mm jack on Le 2 smartphone, but Apollo Lite still retains the 3.5mm jack.
Ah, yep, vernee, unlike leeco, kept also the 3.5mm jack!
I’m familiar with lossless (audio) codecs such as FLAC. Can you or someone else explain what’s going on here? How do they use hardware to produce loss-less audio?
The phone simply don’t convert numeric stream to analog signal. Instead the phone send the numeric output through USB, which is converted inside special headphones. So you’ll have to buy very expensive headphones including some kind of DAC inside to convert the numeric stream to analog.
That’s some kind of scam, as the converting technology is not “new” but excluded from the phone and the cost will be deported to the headphones.
Don’t be fooled by the loss-less gimmick. If you’re playing a shitty 128mbps MP3 thru a phone’s USB type C, it will still be a shitty 128mbps audio stream. They’re just arguing that, since they don’t convert numeric to analog inside the phone, there is no loss of quality at this point of the chain.
that also depends on what quality music file you get π
what kind of signal do you think your ears can hear? there is no such thing as lossless in the audio output jack; ALL audio standard need to be in analog wave form in the end whether it’s usb type C or 3.5mm jack.
in fact, some of the best headphones in the world use 3.5mm jack.
using usb type c will require you to buy another peripheral and let the manufacturers simplify pcb design which save them money. it’s all a huge scam.
Of course it’s an AD, it’s from Karel.
sweet π
love it
and the price is…………?
AD ?
Do you even have to ask when you see it’s a “news” from karel? π
Isn’t this about the 3rd time we’ve had this ad about the audio? I thought it was common knowledge that USB c gives lossless audio, hence why they’re moving towards it!
I’m not totally sure, but maybe it does not give an audio output unless producers enhance it, just like i doesn’t give a quick charge (if you remember, there was a mess about it because op2 had a type c plug but no quick charge)
EDIT: however, yes… It’s not the first ad we had about apollo lite’s usb audio, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it won’t be the last π
Of course it’s an AD, it’s from Karel.
The problem is like USB in general, not all Type C is equal. The OnePlus 2 had Type C but it was a USB 2.0 connection which is the reason there was no quick charge. They added it for convenience more than actual function.
Interesting… Another useless marketing move… Couldn’t expect anything less from them π
by the way, digital music output Type-C with 3.5mm jack, i think it’s actually the first one, tell me i am wrong.
what kind of signal do you think your ears can hear? there is no such thing as lossless in the audio output jack; ALL audio standard need to be in analog wave form in the end whether it’s usb type C or 3.5mm jack.
in fact, some of the best headphones in the world use 3.5mm jack.
using usb type c will require you to buy another peripheral and let the manufacturers simplify pcb design which save them money. it’s all a huge scam and you’re all going to love it since marketing is ‘never wrong’ lol.
I didn’t get you question, can you put it down clearer please? π
I’m familiar with lossless (audio) codecs such as FLAC. Can you or someone else explain what’s going on here? How do they use hardware to produce loss-less audio?
The phone simply don’t convert numeric stream to analog signal. Instead the phone send the numeric output through USB, which is converted inside special headphones. So you’ll have to buy very expensive headphones including some kind of DAC inside to convert the numeric stream to analog.
That’s some kind of scam, as the converting technology is not “new” but excluded from the phone and the cost will be deported to the headphones.
Don’t be fooled by the loss-less gimmick. If you’re playing a shitty 128mbps MP3 thru a phone’s USB type C, it will still be a shitty 128mbps audio stream. They’re just arguing that, since they don’t convert numeric to analog inside the phone, there is no loss of quality at this point of the chain.
LeEco cancelled the 3.5mm jack on Le 2 smartphone, but Apollo Lite still retains the 3.5mm jack.
that also depends on what quality music file you get π
Ah, yep, vernee, unlike leeco, kept also the 3.5mm jack!
sweet π
love it
and the price is…………?
Mx5 has same feature
Mx5 has same feature
“But Vernee is not condemning all the other non-audiophile audience so if you have just the old trustworthy headphones without the USB-C connector no problem using the jack”
Oh thank you Vernee, thank you for not condemning us, poor non-audiophiles, still listening to music with outdated 3.5 jack headphones… It got nothing to do with the debate over Zuk Z2 lack of jack and the fear of sales drop, it’s just pure altruism and we all kow tow 3 times to you oh great Vernee.
at least, this feature is not totally useless i think.
no feature is totally useless as you can always find use for something. I was just ironizing on the way things were expressed : audiophiles use Type-C when non-audiophiles use 3.5 jack. Nothing further from reality.
“But Vernee is not condemning all the other non-audiophile audience so if you have just the old trustworthy headphones without the USB-C connector no problem using the jack”
Oh thank you Vernee, thank you for not condemning us, poor non-audiophiles, still listening to music with outdated 3.5 jack headphones… It got nothing to do with the debate over Zuk Z2 lack of jack and the fear of sales drop, it’s just pure altruism and we all kow tow 3 times to you oh great Vernee.
at least, this feature is not totally useless i think.
no feature is totally useless as you can always find use for something. I was just ironizing on the way things were expressed : audiophiles use Type-C when non-audiophiles use 3.5 jack. Nothing further from reality.
Vernee is only failing with no NFC.
Vernee is only failing with no NFC.
The Apollo Lite looks dope, hope it gets a price drop below 200$ to stay competitive with LeEco 2, and others incoming X20/25 phones.
The Apollo Lite looks dope, hope it gets a price drop below 200$ to stay competitive with LeEco 2, and others incoming X20/25 phones.
Someone review this please!
Someone review this please!