Lenovo Vibe X3 launched with Snapdragon 808, and audio-centric features


lenovo vibe x3

If you like HiFi audio, require a fingerprint scanner and want a phone from a larger Chinese brand then one of the new Lenovo X3 smartphones could be right up your street.

Lenovo have launched not 1, not 2 but 3 different variants of Lenovo X3 smartphones for the Chinese mobile market. The phones launched today with preorders running from now until the 24th November.

lenovo vibe x3

The Vibe X3 range of phones starts at just 1899 Yuan for the base model with Dolby Atmos audio, Cirrus logic, OTA1612 audio processor, 5.5-inch FHD display, Snapdragon 808 CPU, 2GB RAM and 16GB internal memory.

lenovo vibe x3

Moving up the range the next level of Lenovo Vibe X3 will set you back 2499 Yuan with the same audio hardware, but 3GB RAM and 32GB internal memory.

lenovo vibe x3

The top of the range Lenovo Vibe X3 has a price tag of 2999 Yuan with 64GB ROM.

Along with the shared audio hardware, all three versions of the Lenovo Vibe X3 come with a 21 mega-pixel main camera with PDAF (Phase Detection Auto Focus), dual tone LED flash, and front 8 mega-pixel sensor.

Update: The Lenovo pages have conflicting information and it appears the 1899 Yuan version of the Lenovo Vibe X3 might ship with a 13 mega-pixel rear camera, we are trying to confirm the details now.

Each model also boasts a fingerprint scanner on the back, NFC, and large 3600mAh battery and Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0!

As customers in China won’t be receiving their Lenovo Vibe X3 phones until 25th November, don’t expect international resellers to have stock of the phone until late November/Early December.

Past Lenovo phones haven’t really managed to grab my attention, but the Vibe X3’s dual front speakers, dedicated audio, and decent camera hardware has me intrigued. What do you guys think?

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142 Comments

  1. Rob
    November 16, 2015

    64GB of RAM for the third model, thats a lot.

    • Muhammad Yasir
      November 16, 2015

      lel

      • King
        November 17, 2015

        is that (LEL) a new phone company that will demolish ELE? 😉

        • Muhammad Yasir
          November 17, 2015

          sadly no :p

          lel is like a deviation from your run of the mill ‘lol’ 🙂

        • Mesterio
          November 17, 2015

          Don’t mind him he got me with that, I thought it was ‘ laughs ecstatically loud’ only for him to reply with another ‘lel’. I guess it is because lel is cheap ?

          • King
            November 17, 2015

            😀

  2. Alexis T
    November 16, 2015

    i don’t really get why they’re putting an audio processor in a phone… it’s a bit useless since software part (dolby, beat, wave,…you name it) is sufficient to correctly decode/play an audio stream.

    BUT i’ll buy the first tablet with an audio processor and a latence <30ms to write electronic music on the go. Right now it's useless to buy FL3 for android if hardware can't give us adequate reactivity.

    • balcobomber25
      November 16, 2015

      Meizu and Vivo have done it for years. It can make a huge difference in sound quality.

      • Ulti
        November 16, 2015

        Yep I’ve noticed really clear sound in my Xiaomi Mi Note and Meizu MX4, which I don’t recall in the Mi3 or Mi4.

    • MaxPower
      November 16, 2015

      agree with you if you are using a 128kbps MP3.
      different story with a FLAC or any other lossless format

      • Alexis T
        November 17, 2015

        i’m using 320kbps mp3 (can’t hear the difference with a FLAC) and i have clear and dynamic sound with a Find 7 which hasn’t any audio processor, only Waves software. Every phone i compared with had inferior sound quality, but maybe you’re right, i’ll try to get my hands on a meizu, vivo or whatever phone with audio processor.

  3. Muhammad Yasir
    November 16, 2015

    expensive !

    • Nolan
      November 16, 2015

      I know – A SnapDragon 808 phone (not even 810) with no 4GB option – it should have been around 220 USD. For this line of three, as is, I recommend the following revised pricing to Lenovo:

      Base model: 179.99 USD
      Mid model: 199.99 USD
      Top model: 229.99 USD

      The top model could be 219.99 usd though, given it doesn’t have 4GB ram and OIS.

      • Roberto Tomás
        November 16, 2015

        well that would definitely sell .. and it would be not too far below the actual prices if they used a Helio X10 (which is slightly faster, too) rather than the expensive Snapdragon 808.

        personally it’d make sense to me to see the base model in the ~$249 range

        • Aldrex Chama
          November 16, 2015

          X10 isn’t faster than the S808…

          • balcobomber25
            November 16, 2015

            They are about equal in speed.

            • Aldrex Chama
              November 16, 2015

              Not at all.
              CPU wise, yes.
              GPU wise it’s not even a contest.

            • Roberto Tomás
              November 16, 2015

              overall it is faster .. on antutu the results are ~45-48k for an 808 usually, and about 52k for a comparable helio x10

              strictly for gaming is snapdragon 808 showing well, in anything else it is slower.

            • Aldrex Chama
              November 16, 2015

              Ahahahah antutu…

            • Roberto Tomás
              November 16, 2015

              was that a sneeze? bless you

            • King
              November 17, 2015

              lol… next time i sneeze, i will go aaaaaahhantutuuuuu too. 😛

            • MaxPower
              November 16, 2015

              Antutu score is a global value that takes consideration of several variables including display size (just to name one).

              using that score to determine which SoC is faster has nothing of scientific.

              To do that you need two phones with the same hardware, kernel and UI and profile to see which one is faster.

              if you want to know which CPU is faster then i’d suggest Geekbench which gives you un idea , but definetely more accurate that the Antutu score.

            • Roberto Tomás
              November 16, 2015

              I agree with you about gb3 (+ gfxbench or 3dmark or something) is better than antutu. 🙂

              I was just talking about general trends. Still, I was specific in claiming that the snapdragon 808 in a comparable system to a helio x10 is a bit slower.

            • MaxPower
              November 16, 2015

              and how did you come out with that conclusion?

            • Roberto Tomás
              November 16, 2015

              by looking up antutu results in googles image search to get a survey of different blogs and sites like this, then checking the details to ensure the systems were comparable as I built my comparison.

              they are comparable. the 808 is a bit slower .. roughly 50k-53k vs 45k-48k. enough said.

            • MaxPower
              November 16, 2015

              actually is not enough.
              which phones did you use as sample?

            • Roberto Tomás
              November 16, 2015

              45-48k is not an unusual claim for an 808 in antutu. an example in that range is the Nexus 5X which usually scores about 47k.

              There are some scores for the 5X as high as 49.7k but also some as low as 31k. Let’s throw those out, god knows how long they left that thing running before it overheated that much.

              The Nexus 5x has a 1080p screen. And, like any well made QC808 phone, it has very fast ram that should advantage it in the comparison.

              We can compare it to the HTC One M9+, also sporting a 1080p screen. You ahve to be careful here as many scores will be for the HTC One M9, not the One M9+, and that is a Snapdragon 810 (it is funny how they gave the plus version the Helio X10 processor). We also have to throw out the early tests that score it in the ~45k range, because they apparently tuned it up better by the time it was commonly available. It now scores 51-53k range, and can bee seen scoring still 49k after several repeated tests in comparisons to the Snapdragon 810 related to how bad that chip overheats.

            • MaxPower
              November 16, 2015

              nice comment, but yet, you haven’t proven the connection “more Antutu points = faster SoC”

              you took two phones as example and what you have been proven so far is that one gets more Antutu points than the other one, nothing more.

              look, I’m not trying to saying that one is better or faster than the other, to me their performance is comparable.

              what I’m trying to explain you is that Antutu points don’t tell you which SoC is faster and if this isn’t clear yet then I’m going to show you 2 different phones, with exactly the same SoC: Exynos 7420.

              I’m taking about the Meizu Pro 5 and the Samsung Galaxy S6.

              so, if someone asks me:
              which SoC is faster (look, i said SoC and not phone)
              the answer is, they both have the same SoC, so that question doesn’t make any sense.

              but if we use your logic to answer that question then the answer would be:

              “According to Antutu The Exynos 7420 of the Meizu Pro 5 is a faster SoC than the Exynos 7420 of the Galaxy S6 because the S6 scores about 68K, while the Pro5 scores 76K”

              i hope you got my point about Antutu.

            • Roberto Tomás
              November 16, 2015

              > nice comment, but yet, you haven’t proven the connection “more Antutu points = faster SoC”

              I’m not trying to prove that. I do think the degree to which that benchmark dominates the coverage about phones, even on tech sites, does speak highly of it but .. I have always agreed with you on this point of yours.

              The very first words I wrote to you here were highlighting the point in your own comments and praising your insight there. We have always been in agreement on this.

            • MaxPower
              November 16, 2015

              I’m aware about the coverage of Antutu which i consider masters in marketing.

              in tech sites (androidauthority, xda) they have to bring Antutu because people ask about it but they’ve never praised it.

              btw, i wasnt asking for agreement, i was only trying to explain you that Antutu score is a mix of several variables that for the nature of the benchmark can’t tell you much about a specific department like cpu or gpu.

              benchmarks (all of them) can tell you which league the phone belongs,but rarely more than that.

              to conclude, both soc (helio x10 and sd 808) are a nice piece of hardware, especially if we consider that , with the X20 and sd820 coming out soon, they are considered mid-range SoC.

            • MaxPower
              November 16, 2015

              oh you mean is slower running Antutu?

            • MaxPower
              November 16, 2015

              I’m only trying to point you that all the benchmarks should be taken with a pinch of salt.

              They give you a rough idea, but there are factors that don’t show up.

              one of them is the throttling (like you correctly pointed above)
              other could be software tricks by the company to pump that score (widely proven in the past).

              For sure you can’t tell which one is faster between a phone that score 48.000 on Antutu and another one that scores 52.000.

              actually there are chances that two exact phones can give you two different values far over than 10%.

            • Roberto Tomás
              November 16, 2015

              > I’m only trying to point you that all the benchmarks should be taken with a pinch of salt.

              Yes, I invite you to go back and reread my first reply to you! We are in agreement 🙂

            • balcobomber25
              November 17, 2015

              The GPU in the SD is better but not by a wide margin as you think. There’s very little in the play store the X10 can’t handle.

            • Aldrex Chama
              November 17, 2015

              The X10’s GPU can’t even match the adreno 330. The adreno 418 is much higher up the ladder.

            • balcobomber25
              November 17, 2015

              On paper the Adreno 418 is about 20% faster than the 330. On paper the 418 is slightly faster than the Power VR 6200 in the X10. But in real world execution most people will never notice the difference between the two. Neither of them will handle the most demanding games on Android on high settings. If there was a ladder it would look like this:

              Adreno 430
              Nvida K1
              Adreno 420
              Mali T760
              Power VR6430
              Adreno 418
              Adreno 330
              Power VR 6200

              While it would be up the ladder it wouldn’t be as much higher as you seem to think. The 420 and 430 would be, but the 418 is a slight improvement on the 330. In real world scenarios the 3 of them (418,330 and 6200) offer about equal performance.

            • Aldrex Chama
              November 17, 2015

              Wait, the 6430 is lower than the 330, and the 6200 is even lower still, more or less as fast as the adreno 320.

            • balcobomber25
              November 17, 2015

              6430 is better than 330. 6430 scores higher in just about every graphics benchmark. You can see them all here (Iphone 5 has 6430, Note 3 has 330, N1 has 320)

              http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/oppo-n1-smartphone-phablet-cyanogenmod,3837-12.html

            • Aldrex Chama
              November 17, 2015

              The iPhone throttles much less than the S800 devices though. But I guess it’s a wash anyway.

          • Roberto Tomás
            November 16, 2015

            yes it is.. not much faster, 5-10%, but it is faster.

            • Aldrex Chama
              November 16, 2015

              No it’s not. They’re about even in the CPU department, and S808 stomps in the GPU department.
              X10’s GPU can’t even match the adreno 330.

            • Roberto Tomás
              November 16, 2015

              I loked up results before posting that in the first place, I know I am right. The 808’s gpu is faster (but it will throttle after a few minutes of use and fall to just a minor advantage). The x10’s cpu is significantly faster.

              overall, in antutu the 808 scores ~45-48k in a system comparable to one where the helio x10 would score in the ~52k range.

            • Aldrex Chama
              November 16, 2015

              The S808 has better single core performance, while X10 has better multi core performance. The winner depends on the task.
              But in the GPU side, the S808 wins by a mile, it’s not even funny.
              It will throttle under benchmarks but during real workloads the throttling is much less aggressive.

            • Roberto Tomás
              November 16, 2015

              I already posted my reply to that perspective. you can take it or leave it. (I feel like your response was so limp on top of just-plain incorrect that it isnt even worth addressing the specific points)

              Im not going to go back and say the same things again.. that’s becoming a difference between us 🙂

      • Muhammad Yasir
        November 16, 2015

        agreed !
        but 808 is better than 810 as i have heard…

        • King
          November 17, 2015

          808 will keep those eggs warm that were boiled by 810. 😉

          • Muhammad Yasir
            November 17, 2015

            hahaha …

            but honestly , i heard that the hexacore is a beast of a cpu… mi4c proves it.

      • balcobomber25
        November 16, 2015

        SD808 is a much better chip than 810. Your pricing is only looking at SoC/RAM and ignoring everything else. Hifi Audio chips are not cheap.

        • MaxPower
          November 16, 2015

          i still laugh loud when i read comments about prices that come from nowhere, especially when they mention the SoC.

          • King
            November 17, 2015

            Would choose Moto X Style for now. Finger print scanner, for me, if of not much use in India. But will now wait until Dec 6. Patience. BTW, if LeTV do something before that, then I might just be tempted. 😀

          • balcobomber25
            November 17, 2015

            People think SoC is the only thing that determines a phones cost. There a hundred other components plus advertising costs, distribution, production etc.

  4. Dante
    November 16, 2015

    People are dmb fks for wanting the sd810 in this phone sd808 is fkin enough its the best Soc of 2015

    • balcobomber25
      November 16, 2015

      Best SoC of 2015 imo is MT6752. It was so good Mediatek had to kill it off so the MT6795 could actually compete.

      • Dante
        November 17, 2015

        Gpu was pretty bad tho

        • balcobomber25
          November 17, 2015

          It has the same GPU as the Exnyos 7420. It’s not the best but it’s far from bad.

          • overlord
            November 17, 2015

            7420 had MP8 version & better driver support.

            • balcobomber25
              November 17, 2015

              Yes it did and it was also a flagship CPU, the 6752 was a mid-range which makes it even more remarkable. $200 phones had performance that came close to flagship models costing twice and three times as much. That is why it is the best SoC released in 2015. It wasn’t the most powerful or the most efficient but it was one that far exceeded anyone’s expectations. They could re-release it in 2016 and it would still be one of the best mid range SoC’s available.

            • overlord
              November 17, 2015

              Have to agree. Not sure why they went PowerVR route instead of increasing number of cores for 6795.

          • Dante
            November 17, 2015

            those are extremely different GPu’s – you forgot the mp version which is a huge difference

            • balcobomber25
              November 17, 2015

              They aren’t “extremely different”. They are built on the same exact architecture, the MP8 in the Exnyos version is faster than the MP2 in the 6752. But it’s still the same base GPU using the same technology and for a midrange phone it is very good.

      • Dante
        November 17, 2015

        yea now im inda changing my vision towards 6752 and remember it was a december 2014 SoC thats awesome , i hate mediatek for introudcing 6753

        • balcobomber25
          November 17, 2015

          It was a December SoC that was used in multiple phones in 2015. Until about August it was the choice of chip for mid range devices.

          • Dante
            November 24, 2015

            more like may or june , When mediatek announced it doesnt want to provide the source code for the 6752 for android 5.1.1

            • balcobomber25
              November 24, 2015

              There were still a few phones that released in July/August with the 6752.

    • Aldrex Chama
      November 16, 2015

      Best SoC of 2015 was 7420…

      • Dante
        November 17, 2015

        depending on your preference and most people keep their mouth shut about the flaws it had – Put an Lg G4 and S6 edge side by side and youll see what im talking about . Source : i own both

        • Aldrex Chama
          November 17, 2015

          That’s due to SW.
          Run a game on both and you’ll see what I’m talking aboutabout.

          • Dante
            November 17, 2015

            ok aboutabout seen that 100 times pathetic fanboyism

            • Aldrex Chama
              November 17, 2015

              Yeah, sure.

  5. Gordon Tang
    November 16, 2015

    Hopefully this will launch internationally for UK! Its actually very compact for a 5.5inch considering dual front speakers, the measurements aren’t that much bigger than my One M9 in its protective case. And there is very little real world difference between 808 and 810, if anything the 808 is more favorable due to the lack of heating issues (although my M9 has never suffered to date). Actually very intrigued in this phone the more o think about it, but can’t find the LTE bands to check UK compatibility…

  6. Guest
    November 16, 2015

    64GB of RAM for the third model, thats a lot.

    • Guest
      November 16, 2015

      lel

    • King
      November 17, 2015

      is that (LEL) a new phone company that will demolish ELE? 😉

    • Guest
      November 17, 2015

      sadly no :p

      lel is like a deviation from your run of the mill ‘lol’ 🙂

    • Mesterio
      November 17, 2015

      Don’t mind him he got me with that, I thought it was ‘ laughs ecstatically loud’ only for him to reply with another ‘lel’. I guess it is because lel is cheap 😛

    • King
      November 17, 2015

      😀

  7. NextHype
    November 16, 2015

    i don’t really get why they’re putting an audio processor in a phone… it’s a bit useless since software part (dolby, beat, wave,…you name it) is sufficient to correctly decode/play an audio stream.

    BUT i’ll buy the first tablet with an audio processor and a latence <30ms to write electronic music on the go. Right now it's useless to buy FL3 for android if hardware can't give us adequate reactivity.

    • balcobomber25
      November 16, 2015

      Meizu and Vivo have done it for years. It can make a huge difference in sound quality.

    • Ulti
      November 16, 2015

      Yep I’ve noticed really clear sound in my Xiaomi Mi Note and Meizu MX4, which I don’t recall in the Mi3 or Mi4.

    • MaxPower
      November 16, 2015

      agree with you if you are using a 128kbps MP3.
      different story with a FLAC or any other lossless format

    • NextHype
      November 17, 2015

      i’m using 320kbps mp3 (can’t hear the difference with a FLAC) and i have clear and dynamic sound with a Find 7 which hasn’t any audio processor, only Waves software. Every phone i compared with had inferior sound quality, but maybe you’re right, i’ll try to get my hands on a meizu, vivo or whatever phone with audio processor.

  8. Guest
    November 16, 2015

    expensive !

    • Guest
      November 16, 2015

      I know – A SnapDragon 808 phone (not even 810) with no 4GB option – it should have been around 220 USD. For this line of three, as is, I recommend the following revised pricing to Lenovo:

      Base model: 179.99 USD
      Mid model: 199.99 USD
      Top model: 229.99 USD

      The top model could be 219.99 usd though, given it doesn’t have 4GB ram and OIS.

    • Roberto Tomás
      November 16, 2015

      well that would definitely sell .. and it would be not too far below the actual prices if they used a Helio X10 (which is slightly faster, too) rather than the expensive Snapdragon 808.

      personally it’d make sense to me to see the base model in the ~$249 range

    • Guest
      November 16, 2015

      agreed !
      but 808 is better than 810 as i have heard…

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      November 16, 2015

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    • balcobomber25
      November 16, 2015

      SD808 is a much better chip than 810. Your pricing is only looking at SoC/RAM and ignoring everything else. Hifi Audio chips are not cheap.

    • balcobomber25
      November 16, 2015

      They are about equal in speed.

    • Guest
      November 16, 2015

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    • Roberto Tomás
      November 16, 2015

      yes it is.. not much faster, 5-10%, but it is faster.

    • Roberto Tomás
      November 16, 2015

      overall it is faster .. on antutu the results are ~45-48k for an 808 usually, and about 52k for a comparable helio x10

      strictly for gaming is snapdragon 808 showing well, in anything else it is slower.

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      November 16, 2015

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      November 16, 2015

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    • Roberto Tomás
      November 16, 2015

      I loked up results before posting that in the first place, I know I am right. The 808’s gpu is faster (but it will throttle after a few minutes of use and fall to just a minor advantage). The x10’s cpu is significantly faster.

      overall, in antutu the 808 scores ~45-48k in a system comparable to one where the helio x10 would score in the ~52k range.

    • Roberto Tomás
      November 16, 2015

      was that a sneeze? bless you

    • Guest
      November 16, 2015

      This comment was deleted.

    • Roberto Tomás
      November 16, 2015

      I already posted my reply to that perspective. you can take it or leave it. (I feel like your response was so limp on top of just-plain incorrect that it isnt even worth addressing the specific points)

    • MaxPower
      November 16, 2015

      i still laugh loud when i read comments about prices that come from nowhere, especially when they mention the SoC.

    • MaxPower
      November 16, 2015

      Antutu score is a global value that takes consideration of several variables including display size (just to name one).

      using that score to determine which SoC is faster has nothing of scientific.

      To do that you need two phones with the same hardware, kernel and UI and profile to see which one is faster.

      if you want to know which CPU is faster then i’d suggest Geekbench which gives you un idea , but definetely more accurate that the Antutu score.

    • Roberto Tomás
      November 16, 2015

      I agree with you about gb3 (+ gfxbench or 3dmark or something) is better than antutu. 🙂 In fact this is becoming a common complaint I have about android online magazines at this point, they very often tend to just use antutu in a comparison, even if later another comparison will be published with geekbench 3. Antutu gives a great one-liner on performance, useful for people who dont really care too much about the details. But those are rarely the people who read tech articles.

      I was just talking about general trends. Still, I was specific in claiming that the snapdragon 808 in a comparable system to a helio x10 is a bit slower.

    • MaxPower
      November 16, 2015

      and how did you come out with that conclusion?

    • Roberto Tomás
      November 16, 2015

      by looking up antutu results in googles image search to get a survey of different blogs and sites like this, then checking the details to ensure the systems were comparable as I built my comparison.

      they are comparable. the 808 is a bit slower .. roughly 50k-53k vs 45k-48k. enough said.

    • MaxPower
      November 16, 2015

      I’m only trying to point you that all the benchmarks should be taken with a pinch of salt.

      They give you a rough idea, but there are factors that don’t show up.

      one of them is the throttling (like you correctly pointed above)
      other could be software tricks by the company to pump that score (widely proven in the past).

      For sure you can’t tell which one is faster between a phone that score 48.000 on Antutu and another one that scores 52.000.

      actually there are chances that two exact phones can give you two different values far over than 10%.

    • MaxPower
      November 16, 2015

      actually is not enough.
      which phones did you use as sample?

    • Roberto Tomás
      November 16, 2015

      > I’m only trying to point you that all the benchmarks should be taken with a pinch of salt.

      Yes, I invite you to go back and reread my first reply to you! We are in agreement 🙂

    • MaxPower
      November 16, 2015

      oh you mean is slower running Antutu?

    • Roberto Tomás
      November 16, 2015

      okay I’m going to do this since you asked. 🙂 Please forgive the obvious allegiance I develop in talking about the X10 now .. I grew to respect the SoC a lot more once I was forced to be more detailed about it .. I guess I should thank you. 🙂

      45-48k is not an unusual claim for an 808 in antutu. an example in that range is the Nexus 5X which usually scores about 47k.

      There are some scores for the 5X as high as 49.7k but also some as low as 31k. Let’s throw those out, god knows how long they left that thing running before it overheated that much.

      The Nexus 5x has a 1080p screen. And, like any well made QC808 phone, it has very fast ram that should advantage it in the comparison.

      We can compare it to the HTC One M9+, also sporting a 1080p screen. You have to be careful here as many scores will be for the HTC One M9, not the One M9+, and that is a Snapdragon 810 (it is funny how they gave the plus version the Helio X10 processor). We also have to throw out the early tests that score it in the ~45k range, because they apparently tuned it up better by the time it was commonly available. It now scores 51-53k range, and can bee seen on youtube scoring still 49k after several repeated tests in comparisons to the Snapdragon 810 related to how bad that chip overheats (it fell from 63k to 54k, suggesting that after 10-15 minutes of use the much more expensive SoC is about the same as the Helio X10 is all the time).

      I should at this point clarify that the Snapdragon 808 doesn’t suffer the same degree of perf fade from overheating as the 810 does… not by a long shot. Just because the 810 drops like that to ~54k, doesn’t mean the 808 will drop to 41k in a short burst of heavy use. It will drop, but not that much, nor that fast.

      On the other hand, even the Xiaomi Redmi Note 2, which has an underclocked Helio X10, scores in the 43.5-49k range .. it is kinda funny that a phone that costs just a bit over one third the cost of the Nexus 5X can equal it, with the same size screen and far weaker ram, even before the 5X’s overheating issues that all gpu-capable phones (particularly those with as an aggressive a build as the Adrenos) will have, but that is the nature of the Helio X10. I gotta say, getting all up close and personal with the details like this, its a great little SoC.

    • MaxPower
      November 17, 2015

      nice comment, but yet, you haven’t proven the connection “more Antutu points = faster SoC”

      you took two phones as example and what you have been proven so far is that one gets more Antutu points than the other one, nothing more.

      look, I’m not trying to say that one is better or faster than the other, to me their performance is comparable.

      what I’m trying to explain you is that Antutu points don’t tell you which SoC is faster and if this isn’t clear yet then I’m going to show you 2 different phones, with exactly the same SoC: Exynos 7420.

      I’m taking about the Meizu Pro 5 and the Samsung Galaxy S6.

      so, if someone asks me:
      which SoC is faster (look, i said SoC and not phone)
      the answer is, they both have the same SoC, so that question doesn’t make any sense.

      but if we use your logic to answer that question then the answer would be:

      “According to Antutu The Exynos 7420 of the Meizu Pro 5 is a faster SoC than the Exynos 7420 of the Galaxy S6 because the S6 scores about 68K, while the Pro5 scores 76K”

      i hope you got my point about Antutu.

    • Roberto Tomás
      November 17, 2015

      > nice comment, but yet, you haven’t proven the connection “more Antutu points = faster SoC”

      I’m not trying to prove that. I do think the degree to which that benchmark dominates the coverage about phones, even on tech sites, does speak highly of it but .. I have always agreed with you on this point of yours.

      The very first words I wrote to you here were highlighting the point in your own comments and praising your insight there. We have always been in agreement on this.

    • MaxPower
      November 17, 2015

      I’m aware about the coverage of Antutu which i consider masters in marketing.

      in tech sites (androidauthority, xda) they have to bring Antutu because people ask about it but they’ve never praised it.

      btw, i wasnt asking for agreement, i was only trying to explain you that Antutu score is a mix of several variables that for the nature of the benchmark can’t tell you much about a specific department like cpu or gpu.

      benchmarks (all of them) can tell you which league the phone belongs,but rarely more than that.

      to conclude, both soc (helio x10 and sd 808) are a nice piece of hardware, especially if we consider that , with the X20 and sd820 coming out soon, they are considered mid-range SoC.

    • King
      November 17, 2015

      Would choose Moto X Style for now. Finger print scanner, for me, if of not much use in India. But will now wait until Dec 6. Patience. BTW, if LeTV do something before that, then I might just be tempted. 😀

    • King
      November 17, 2015

      808 will keep those eggs warm that were boiled by 810. 😉

    • King
      November 17, 2015

      lol… next time i sneeze, i will go aaaaaahhantutuuuuu too. 😛

    • Guest
      November 17, 2015

      hahaha …

      but honestly , i heard that the hexacore is a beast of a cpu… mi4c proves it.

    • balcobomber25
      November 17, 2015

      People think SoC is the only thing that determines a phones cost. There a hundred other components plus advertising costs, distribution, production etc.

    • balcobomber25
      November 17, 2015

      The GPU in the SD is better but not by a wide margin as you think. There’s very little in the play store the X10 can’t handle.

    • Guest
      November 17, 2015

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    • balcobomber25
      November 17, 2015

      On paper the Adreno 418 is about 20% faster than the 330. On paper the 418 is slightly faster than the Power VR 6200 in the X10. But in real world execution most people will never notice the difference between the two. Neither of them will handle the most demanding games on Android on high settings. If there was a ladder it would look like this:

      Adreno 430
      Nvida K1
      Adreno 420
      Mali T760
      Power VR6430
      Adreno 418
      Adreno 330
      Power VR 6200

      While it would be up the ladder it wouldn’t be as much higher as you seem to think. The 420 and 430 would be, but the 418 is a slight improvement on the 330. In real world scenarios the 3 of them (418,330 and 6200) offer about equal performance.

    • Guest
      November 17, 2015

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    • balcobomber25
      November 17, 2015

      6430 is better than 330. 6430 scores higher in just about every graphics benchmark. You can see them all here (Iphone 5 has 6430, Note 3 has 330, N1 has 320)

      http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/oppo-n1-smartphone-phablet-cyanogenmod,3837-12.html

  9. willysson
    November 16, 2015

    Well, the rumours were waaaaay off, price-wise!

  10. Dante
    November 16, 2015

    People are dmb fks for wanting the sd810 in this phone sd808 is fkin enough its the best Soc of 2015

    • balcobomber25
      November 16, 2015

      Best SoC of 2015 imo is MT6752. It was so good Mediatek had to kill it off so the MT6795 could actually compete.

    • Guest
      November 16, 2015

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    • Dante
      November 17, 2015

      depending on your preference and most people keep their mouth shut about the flaws it had – Put an Lg G4 and S6 edge side by side and youll see what im talking about . Source : i own both

    • Dante
      November 17, 2015

      Gpu was pretty bad tho

    • Guest
      November 17, 2015

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    • balcobomber25
      November 17, 2015

      It has the same GPU as the Exnyos 7420. It’s not the best but it’s far from bad.

    • overlord
      November 17, 2015

      7420 had MP8 version & better driver support.

    • balcobomber25
      November 17, 2015

      Yes it did and it was also a flagship CPU, the 6752 was a mid-range which makes it even more remarkable. $200 phones had performance that came close to flagship models costing twice and three times as much. That is why it is the best SoC released in 2015. It wasn’t the most powerful or the most efficient but it was one that far exceeded anyone’s expectations. They could re-release it in 2016 and it would still be one of the best mid range SoC’s available.

    • overlord
      November 17, 2015

      Have to agree. Not sure why they went PowerVR route instead of increasing number of cores for 6795.

    • Dante
      November 17, 2015

      those are extremely different GPu’s – you forgot the mp version which is a huge difference

    • Dante
      November 17, 2015

      ok aboutabout seen that 100 times pathetic fanboyism

    • Dante
      November 17, 2015

      yea now im inda changing my vision towards 6752 and remember it was a december 2014 SoC thats awesome , i hate mediatek for introudcing 6753

    • balcobomber25
      November 17, 2015

      It was a December SoC that was used in multiple phones in 2015. Until about August it was the choice of chip for mid range devices.

    • balcobomber25
      November 17, 2015

      They aren’t “extremely different”. They are built on the same exact architecture, the MP8 in the Exnyos version is faster than the MP2 in the 6752. But it’s still the same base GPU using the same technology and for a midrange phone it is very good.

    • Dante
      November 24, 2015

      more like may or june , When mediatek announced it doesnt want to provide the source code for the 6752 for android 5.1.1

    • balcobomber25
      November 24, 2015

      There were still a few phones that released in July/August with the 6752.

  11. Gordon Tang
    November 16, 2015

    Hopefully this will launch internationally for UK! Its actually very compact for a 5.5inch considering dual front speakers, the measurements aren’t that much bigger than my One M9 in its protective case. And there is very little real world difference between 808 and 810, if anything the 808 is more favorable due to the lack of heating issues (although my M9 has never suffered to date). Actually very intrigued in this phone the more o think about it, but can’t find the LTE bands to check UK compatibility…

  12. Guest
    November 16, 2015

    Well, the rumours were waaaaay off, price-wise!

  13. MattD
    November 16, 2015

    I don’t want to be that guy, but…
    The lite version has a mt6753. Cameras are 5 and 13mpx. And there’s a smaller battery too (like 3300-3400mah).
    Yet, it still cost almost 300$.

    I was really looking foward to this phone, the lite version was fine too… Too bad they cost double the price they were supposed to, according to rumors!

  14. MattD
    November 17, 2015

    I don’t want to be that guy, but…
    The lite version has a mt6753. Cameras are 5 and 13mpx. And there’s a smaller battery too (like 3300-3400mah).
    Yet, it still cost almost 300$.

    I was really looking foward to this phone, the lite version was fine too… Too bad they cost double the price they were supposed to, according to rumors!