LeEco Le 2 vs Le 2 Pro vs Le Max 2: Specs Compared


LeEco today took the wraps off of its second generation of phones, in the LeEco Le 2, Le 2 Pro and the Le Max 2. There have been a couple launches between the first and second generation of LeEco phones though, namely the Le 1s and the Le Max Pro.

Anyway, let us here take a look at what differentiates the Le 2 vs Le 2 Pro vs Le Max 2. The phones have just launched so we don’t have the units with us, but what we do have are the spec sheets which should be good for now.

LeEco Le 2 Specifications

Model: LeEco Le 2
Capacity RAM: 3GB

ROM: 32GB

Chipset CPU: MediaTek Helio X20
System EUI based on Android 6.0
Screen Display Size: 5.5-inch

Resolution: 1920 x 1080 pixels

Camera Rear Camera: 16MP

Front Camera: 8MP

Radio TBA
Battery 3000mAh non-removable

LeEco Le 2 Pro Specifications

Model: LeEco Le 2 Pro
Capacity RAM: 4GB

ROM: 32GB

Chipset CPU: MediaTek Helio X25
System EUI based on Android 6.0
Screen Display Size: 5.5-inch

Resolution: 1920 x 1080 pixels

Camera Rear Camera: 21MP

Front Camera: 8MP

Radio TBA
Battery 3000mAh non-removable

LeEco Le Max 2 Specifications

Model: LeEco Le Max 2
Capacity RAM: 4GB/6GB

ROM: 64GB

Chipset CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 820
System EUI based on Android 6.0
Screen Display Size: 5.7-inch

Resolution: 2560 x 1440 pixels

Camera Rear Camera: 21MP

Front Camera: 8MP

Radio TBA
Battery 3100mAh non-removable

LeEco Le 2 vs Le 2 Pro vs Le Max 2: Pricing

Like any other LeEco phones, this bunch is pretty affordable also. Take a look at the pricing:

  • Le 2: 1099 Yuan ($170)
  • Le 2 Pro: 1,499 Yuan ($230)
  • Le Max 2 (4GB/6GB): 2,099 Yuan ($325) / 2,499 Yuan ($390)

It has been learnt that LeEco plans to bring at least one of these phones to the US later this year.

Which one’s your pick?

Picture Credits: engadget.com

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307 Comments

  1. Sandokan
    April 20, 2016

    maybe will be the same problem like previous models: low support of lte bands…

  2. SnowyCat
    April 20, 2016

    i dont care of lte, and i dont use the headphone jack tooo often as i usually lsiten voer bluetooth…i jsut listen to mp3 and no high quality audio stuff :p

    but i’m really concerned about camera and software…i’m so used to miui/flyme that i dont mind software without app drawer and such stuff

    but flyme and miui have plenty of features and regular updates..how is it over there with letv?

    any experience from apst letv phones?

    i’m looking for a 5,5″ phone with quickcharge..helio x20 or better..fhd decent camera and i guess the le 2 pro could fit that pretty well..since the mi 5 is a bit to small

    guess i gotta wait for reviews especially on camera quality.. else i might also consider waiting for the mx 6 if it will have 5,5″ hopefully.

    • Raul
      April 20, 2016

      I have the Le 1s for 6 months and I can tell you I am more than happy with the software support the phone has received, every month I get updates and regarding the camera quality it has improved a lot since Andi did the initial review in December, and I can say the software is pretty well optimized out of 3 GBs of RAM I have an average of 1.5 GB free with no apps in the background.

      • SnowyCat
        April 20, 2016

        thanks for the reply…so i’ll think a bit about it but for me and my needs the le 2 pro looks almost perfect (for me) and there is a cool pink version aswell ^_^

        • Raul
          April 20, 2016

          My only gripe about LeTV staff is that they didn’t bring the 6.0 update yet not even sure if they will, but they at least addressed the problems the phone had

          • SnowyCat
            April 20, 2016

            well i dont know..i dont really mind android versions that much because the main functions on my xiaomi phoen all come with miui and that gets regular updates in terms of features and there are no like security holes..so i couldnt care less about the android version as long as the phone performs great…

            the only place i can see the android version is in the about phone screen

      • LastoftheBrunnen_G
        April 20, 2016

        I agree with this comment. The Le 1S’ cam and memory usage was initially horrible but has since leapfrogged my Note 3 Pro thanks to LeEco’s hard work on software improvements. The only issue I have is that they’re still suck using Android 5.0.2.

    • MattD
      April 20, 2016

      Let’s keep an eye on zuk tomorrow, they’re supposed to launch the Z2

      • MaxPower
        April 20, 2016

        It’s going to be a good phone but in my opinion there’s no chance they will price it at $299 like the Z1.

        A 64GB with SD820 will go easily for $399 (if not even more)

        • MattD
          April 20, 2016

          Probably they won’t, seeing how they’re not officially cutting the price of z1… Looks like they’re following oneplus route in this too… But, like I said before, with good specs it could still be a deal even at an higher price tag…

          • MaxPower
            April 20, 2016

            We’ll see tomorrow what’s gonna happen.

  3. illystor
    April 20, 2016

    All the batteries are removable?

    • April 20, 2016

      Nope.

      • illystor
        April 20, 2016

        Then the tables need a little work

        • April 20, 2016

          Me no get it…

          • illystor
            April 20, 2016

            This article, the page, the one we’re one, right now, lists all the batteries as removable.

            • April 20, 2016

              It looks like a unibody built, so i really don’t think so.

            • illystor
              April 20, 2016

              Yes, I know. I’m trying to draw attention to GizChina’s error.

            • April 20, 2016

              Well, they didn’t notice yet. Maybe tomorrow;)

  4. Levi Smith
    April 20, 2016

    Hoping these come to India soon. Really hating Xiaomi right now for not having enough 3GB+32GB units to sell even after a month and half of launch.

    • Assefa Hanson
      April 20, 2016

      for the note 3?

      • Levi Smith
        April 20, 2016

        Yes. I guess Xiaomi are offloading all their 2GB+16GB phones, and are getting very few takers. There’s never enough stock of the 3GB model and it’s only in Gold color anyway. You should see the XiaomiIndia and RedmiIndia facebook pages. People are truly frustrated. They haven’t even revealed number of units sold like they used to shout out after each flash sale all these years. Fishy!

        • E8hffff
          April 20, 2016

          People are a awake up now and don’t want last year’s or the year before tech phones. Frontline specs or passed on.

          • Levi Smith
            April 20, 2016

            Exactly! Xiaomi tried something similar when they launched Redmi Note Prime with really outdated specs instead of Note 2. I know they couldn’t because of the Ericsson issue (which is really stupid, just pay them and move on, stop being so stupid dammit). They launched they RN3 SD variant early to undercut Letv’s sales – knowing they themselves don’t have the units to sell. But 5 of my friends have now gone for the Le1s since the RN3 wasn’t available. They don’t see that their brand value is going down. That’s really a good time for LeEco to launch in India, who if I remember correctly, sold 200,000 phones in only 3 flash sales.

        • Assefa Hanson
          April 20, 2016

          wow damn, look at this, having the specs is one thing but availability is another

  5. balcobomber25
    April 20, 2016

    Everyone I know who has one loves their LeTV. I just couldn’t imagine using a phone with no headphone jack. Also these suffer from the same black border syndrome that the Mi5 does. Looks like Meizu Pro 6 is still my top phone.

    • illystor
      April 20, 2016

      I want to love the Pro 6 and am really still tempted… I just need to see some reasonable battery life numbers. I want to believe that everything is okay… but I need proof.

      • balcobomber25
        April 20, 2016

        I hope it is similar to the Gionee S7. That was a 5.2in phone with a 2700mAh and a MT6752 and it had very good battery life.

    • Simon
      April 20, 2016

      Reading the closing parts (under last slide) of this may change your mind:

      https://meizufans.eu/meizu-pro-6-truely-interesting-device/

      • balcobomber25
        April 20, 2016

        Didn’t effect my opinion at all. I could write one of those articles praising the phone.

        • Simon
          April 20, 2016

          Fair enough. Makes me feel better. Still not sure what to go with myself. ZUK Z2 Pro tomorrow – lets see what that brings !

          • balcobomber25
            April 20, 2016

            I actually watched S7yler’s unboxing of the black Mi5 today and it does look a lot better than the white version. If Xiaomi can improve the camera I might give the Mi5 another chance…

            • Sere83
              April 20, 2016

              nah, cant get over that home button, just too shit for words. Great price though.

            • balcobomber25
              April 20, 2016

              I love home buttons so it doesn’t bother me.

            • Sere83
              April 20, 2016

              I dont mind home buttons, but not criminally ugly ones. Thought you didn’t like the mi5 design?

            • balcobomber25
              April 20, 2016

              I hate the rear and side design. I think it’s ugly. I don’t mind the front in black, not my favorite but not the worst either. I love MIUI though and miss using it.

            • Sere83
              April 20, 2016

              Wish I could say the same. Chuffed not to be using a phone held back by that buggy ram hogging OS. I am tiring of stock and stockesque roms like cyanogen though, very bland design wise. Still love flyme.

            • balcobomber25
              April 20, 2016

              I like Flyme a lot but there’s a lot about MIUI i miss. Flyme has certainly grown on me and I would say it’s pretty much a lighter version of MIUI.

            • Simon
              April 20, 2016

              Only if its the Pro version. Thats the one I’m eyeing up.

            • balcobomber25
              April 20, 2016

              Still not a huge fan of the design but I really love MIUI, didn’t realize how much I missed it until I got my Mipad 2.

            • Simon
              April 20, 2016

              This article on MIUI, hot off the press, may interest you:

              http://www.xda-developers.com/going-over-to-the-dark-side-the-comprehensive-miui-review/

            • balcobomber25
              April 20, 2016

              Makes me miss it all the more.

            • Simon
              April 20, 2016

              Nice write up actually.

            • balcobomber25
              April 20, 2016

              Yea was very thorough and detailed. One of the main things I miss between Flyme and MIUI is the crazy amount of customization MIUI has.

            • Ewan
              April 20, 2016

              Yeah you are right Balco, that video could give anyone the envy to get the MI5 in Black color. S7yler is doing IMO the best reviews on the web! It is unfortunate that I did not have the budget for the MI5, it is the ideal phone in terms of size and performance. It would have been great if Xiaomi could have proposed the MI5 basic version by removing that expensive technology they used for the camera. By using an improved camera, I mean better than the one used in MI4 could have lowered the costs. I do not care about SD820, a MI5 basic model with SD652 would have been perfect at a great price.

            • balcobomber25
              April 20, 2016

              S7yler is good, C4eTech is good, Col Zap is good. There’s a few on YT that do a great job.

    • SnowyCat
      April 20, 2016

      i really like how they look :p and in terms of pricing..i’m really tempted as this one looks the most promising so far (for my needs) ^^

      will wait out a review on camera performance , display and battery life on the pro version

    • MaxPower
      April 20, 2016

      Omg, I was so excited that I didn’t even notice that border.
      Dark background makes it look less noticeable.

      Also I didn’t even notice that the fingerprint scanner is on the back (doesn’t work to me)

      The price is extremely attractive though, I’ll be waiting for others to come out.
      Buy so far they are on top of my list

      • balcobomber25
        April 20, 2016

        The black border is the first thing I notice in phones now lol. Price isn’t that important to me (within reasons, still can’t justify the P9’s price), and I couldn’t live with having to look at that black border and not being able to use my headphones without an adapter.

        • SnowyCat
          April 20, 2016

          maybe the honor v8 will be your next phone ^_^

          i dont mind black borders that much..i dunno i even think while watching videos i like a small black border around the screen.

          • balcobomber25
            April 20, 2016

            It drives me crazy lol. If I was gonna buy a Huawei it would be the P9, the Honor would be a tease to me.

    • Alexis T
      April 20, 2016

      LeEco team up with FIIL on this CDLA thing. They’ll deliver USB Type C headphones in 2K16. FIIL seems to deliver hi-end headphones already so it may be interesting. It may be a bit pricy btw…

      There is an article on gizmotimes about LeECO / FIIL / CDLA.

      Dunno if this would beat a phone with a DAC like Pro 5 or LG V10 + hi quality headphones…

      • balcobomber25
        April 20, 2016

        The problem is I already have 3 pairs of headphones I love and all have 3.5mm

        • Sere83
          April 20, 2016

          There will be an adaptor you can use. I would much prefer a headphone jack but the only time it will pose an actual issue in operation is when charging and wanting to listen to audio/video at the same time

          • balcobomber25
            April 20, 2016

            I’m not a fan of adapters, just something else for me to lose. And if I do lose it I am SOL.

        • Nam Dang
          April 20, 2016

          Okay, now I’m excited: which headphones are you using?

          • balcobomber25
            April 20, 2016

            1. Sennheiser Momentum (in-ear, use them for running)
            2. Meizu HD50 (on ear, use them when I travel)
            3. Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7 (over ear, use them at home)

            • Nam Dang
              April 21, 2016

              Audio Technica ATH-MSR7 are nice cans, actually I’m more into audiophile headphones than smartphones lol
              I’m using Sony MA900, SoundMAGIC HP150, SoundMAGIC E10 currently, but will get AKG K712 Pro and Beyerdynamic T1 again in future haha

            • Alexis T
              April 21, 2016

              Nice headphones ^^

              I’m a pretty big fan of Audio Technica too, i’m using ATH-M50 for music production and ATH-ANC70 (noise cancelling) when travelling. ATH-MSR7 is a beast, but it’s a bit pricy for me.

              In fact my everyday in-ear buds are Xiaomi Piston 2… i bought them as a test and finally keep them, as i really like their low/med dynamics. But i’m probably going to buy an ATH-CKxxx model soon, hehe.

            • balcobomber25
              April 21, 2016

              Yea I used some much more expensive sets than the ATH’s but the first time I put those on I fell in love with them. Just got them a few weeks ago actually.

    • Sere83
      April 20, 2016

      I agree that having no headphone jack is retarded. BUT and its a big but. On paper at least the Meizu Pro 6 is just wildly overpriced considering what LeTV and no doubt others soon will be offering.

      • balcobomber25
        April 20, 2016

        For some I can see that argument but price isn’t high on my list of considerations. Anything under $500 price doesn’t really factor in for me.

        • Sere83
          April 20, 2016

          The issue is that when another company offers practically the same spec for significantly less and most probably not a lot of difference in features / performance / build then you have to firstly question meizus strategy but also personally weather it is worth it paying significantly more cash for hardly any real advantages. At the moment i’m not sure it is, because as much as i love meizu they are not wildly better than LeTv when it comes to features/performance/build.

          • balcobomber25
            April 20, 2016

            It all comes down to brand preference and individual tastes. Millions of people in China still buy Galaxys when they can get a Mi5 with near identical specs for $300 less. For me the lack of a headphone jack and that ugly blak border are too much no matter the price.

  6. greg
    April 20, 2016

    Le 2 Pro 64GB version ,should be freaking awesome for the price tag right ?

  7. greg
    April 20, 2016

    Why they didn´t include a micro sd slot? , is beyond me ,just don´t make any sense

    • Assefa Hanson
      April 20, 2016

      keep down the price?

      • Marco Lancaster
        April 20, 2016

        I think it is more a philosophy…

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      Some brands do include them others dont.

  8. JudikJ7
    April 20, 2016

    The LeMax 2 seems to have more FDD-LTE Bands http://www.lemall.com/le_max2/parameter.html

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      Link doesn’t work for me.

        • balcobomber25
          April 20, 2016

          I see several of the US LTE bands there listed and they have said they wanted to enter the US, so maybe they will have a Chinese model and an international model with more bands.

          • MaxPower
            April 20, 2016

            That would be fantastic.

            • balcobomber25
              April 20, 2016

              For a lot of these Chinese phones the US is inevitability. Especially a company like LeTV that also deals with media consumption besides their phones. I would say 3-5 years they will all be in the states.

            • MaxPower
              April 20, 2016

              I’m starting losing hopes with Xiaomi. Their logistic is a joke, Indians are mad, and with these LeTV phones coming out soon it’s going to be even harder for Xiaomi.

            • balcobomber25
              April 20, 2016

              I don’t really understand the whole India thing. Every other company in India worked out a deal to sell MTK devices. It seems their little pissing match with Ericsson is costing them millions in sales.

          • LastoftheBrunnen_G
            April 20, 2016

            Since it’s a Qualcomm chipset itself likely to be the international version. I feel that is the only thing that is hindering my 1S being booged down with Chinese crap glued to the Chinese ROM.

            • E8hffff
              April 20, 2016

              So you’ve had a bad experience with Qualcomm and hacking community supplying custom roms?

            • LastoftheBrunnen_G
              April 20, 2016

              No it’s just MediaTek’s SOC are banned in India so many vendors won’t bother with international Roms.

            • balcobomber25
              April 20, 2016

              Mediatek SoCs aren’t band, companies just have to get the necessary patents to use them there. Micromax, Gionee and a few others sell Mediatek phones in India.

            • balcobomber25
              April 20, 2016

              There’s plenty of Qualcomm phones that don’t have every band available. Like the Xiaomi Mi5, it only has bands 1, 3 and 7 for FDD.

          • Omer
            April 20, 2016

            Hate that they put fake misleading photos on there, with hardly any black border around the screen. Those thick black borders are a dealbreaker for me. PS: What’s the weight of these guys? Couldn’t see in those links.

            • E8hffff
              April 20, 2016

              Watching a review video the bezels are fairly big. Similar to Elephone Vowney.

            • Omer
              April 20, 2016

              That’s what I mean: The promo pics don’t show the thick black borders. It’s pure fraudulence, think about it. They should be sued.

        • MaxPower
          April 20, 2016

          Page not found

          • E8hffff
            April 20, 2016

            They work for me in Australia.

  9. Millet Air Purifier
    April 20, 2016

    They killed everyone with their prices today

    • Sere83
      April 20, 2016

      Yeah if i was meizu, id be worried

      • balcobomber25
        April 20, 2016

        Market is big enough for both of them to sell well.

  10. MaxPower
    April 20, 2016

    All of them!!!
    What the f…k it’s wrong with these guys?!?
    OMG!!!!!
    I want all of them!!!

    • Xiaolu
      April 20, 2016

      lol

    • LastoftheBrunnen_G
      April 20, 2016

      I own both the Redmi Note 3 Pro and Le 1S though I must say that I love the screen, speaker and cam (after update) on the LeEco. The only thing that really keeps me with the Note 3 Pro is the insane battery life that allows me to go through the whole day without recharging.

      • MaxPower
        April 20, 2016

        Yeah, battery is insane and I’m not sure I’m ready to a downgrade on that department.
        I guess aging makes you care more about useful stuff rather than eye candies.

        I would love to get a great camera phone with hi-fi audio though.

        I’m gonna keep an eye on one of these, especially if US LTE bands are confirmed.

        • Marco Lancaster
          April 20, 2016

          Off-Topic: Seems that Redmi Note 3 pro is finally getting some “custom-stuff” love, such as proper TWRP and some AOSP Roms, tried one? I’m tempeted to upgrade from my Jiayu into this phone, fits okay for my usage, but I tend to prefer Stock android, CM. But I’ve said that already.

          • MaxPower
            April 21, 2016

            I haven’t checked it yet, if it works then I’m in.
            I’m still waiting for the unlock code though.

    • SnowyCat
      April 20, 2016

      same..they seem so perfect for me..cant wait for reviews on screen, camera quality and battery ^^

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      I just can’t get past the headphone jack and the border.

      On a side note I am considering the black mi5. Guess it’s the fanboy in me lol.

      • MaxPower
        April 20, 2016

        The border is ugly indeed.
        Even my older MI4 didn’t have the border that thick.

        All of those 3 phones are great deal, can’t say differently. Maybe not the phones for me.
        Let’s see what Oneplus can deliver

        • balcobomber25
          April 20, 2016

          I’m giving everyone a chance to win me over this year. I have two budget phones on the way, ThL T7 and Vernee Thor. Give me some time to play with them before buying my next real phone.

      • Nam Dang
        April 20, 2016

        I’m also considering buying the black Mi5 – homebutton doesn’t look that bad as everyone says and new Android version 6.0 needs optimizations overall – camera is okay, I’m more concerned about audio recording since some YT videos show good quality and some really bad one.

        • balcobomber25
          April 20, 2016

          It’s about 4th on my list of phones I am considering. Meizu Pro 6 and Gionee S8 are 1 and 2, Huawei P9 is 3rd.

          • Nam Dang
            April 21, 2016

            It’s also 4th on my list: I’ll wait for Meizu Pro 6, Meizu MX6 (I suppose release date will be May) and LeEco Max 2 being reviewed.

            • balcobomber25
              April 21, 2016

              I wouldnt expect MX6 in May. If they release one I think it will be late June/early
              july.

    • April 20, 2016

      Honestly, I know that feeling.

  11. Xiaolu
    April 20, 2016

    Removable battery, sure? O.o

    • E8hffff
      April 20, 2016

      Seems to be built in.

    • April 20, 2016

      Sorry, my mistake! All of these have non-removable batteries of course. 🙂 (updated — thanks 😉 )

      • Xiaolu
        April 21, 2016

        I totally understand you! Crappy week, full of little mistakes (too much coffee, few hours sleep). Keep on the good work!

        • April 21, 2016

          too much coffee implies few hours sleep anyway 😉 cheers!

  12. E8hffff
    April 20, 2016

    Le2 Pro seems to be the sweet spot. The only gripe is the 3000mAh battery and I’m not into light coloured phones.

    The extra $95 to get a SD820 isn’t reasonable.

    • MaxPower
      April 20, 2016

      You get a bigger phone, ultrasonic fingerprint scanner, 6 GB RAM, 64GB storage

      • E8hffff
        April 20, 2016

        True. 2K screen + more memory. etc. It was my mistake as I thought initially the Pro and Max were the same, bar the SoC.

        • MaxPower
          April 20, 2016

          The price is great for each phone.

    • realjjj
      April 20, 2016

      I would argue that the 2 is better value. For 1 extra GB of RAM and a better cam ,300CNY over the 2 is a lot. The Max is just the best deal with SD820 so that’s nice. Ofc the 2 Pro is not poor value for now as there is no competition yet but in the end whatever fits your needs best.

      • SnowyCat
        April 20, 2016

        would like to see a camera comparison soon..cant wait for these phones.

        the pro also seems to have a bit different design with the front glass compared to the normal 2

        • realjjj
          April 20, 2016

          this China site has some pic samples if you scroll way down http://www.anzhuo.cn/review/p_11249

          • SnowyCat
            April 20, 2016

            wait thats the normal le2 or? actually the camera performance doesnt seem to be that bad..i expected like redmi note 3 levels. because of the price

            is the 230 the same sensor and lenses in the 2 pro like in the max?

  13. E8hffff
    April 20, 2016

    The Le 2 Pro come sin two versions, x20 or X25.

  14. Manjurul Islam
    April 20, 2016

    Without any doubt the max 2. Seriously only $390, though reseller price will be around 450..

  15. April 20, 2016

    The Le Max 2 is by far the phone I am eyeing here. And the Le Pro 2 for me wifey. I love what they did with the prices.

    • realjjj
      April 20, 2016

      Would be nice if they release the Max Pro at some point too, it’s still not in retail.

      • SnowyCat
        April 20, 2016

        isnt the “max pro” the le max 2 ? since it has the same 820 6gb ram configuration

        • realjjj
          April 20, 2016

          No the Max Pro was 6.33 inch, SD820, 4GB, wifi ad and they sold 1k pre-production units and then nothing.

  16. Sandokan
    April 20, 2016

    maybe will be the same problem like previous models: low support of lte bands…

  17. Roberto Tomás
    April 20, 2016

    “It has been learnt that LeEco plans to bring at least one of these phones to the US later this year.” wha??

    • April 20, 2016

      that’s what we hear!

      • Owsley_66
        April 20, 2016

        They’ve been talking about entering the U.S. market almost from the beginning and if they actually do then it’ll probably the model with the 820. That’d be my guess.

  18. realjjj
    April 20, 2016

    You forgot the Pro 2 with x20 at 1399CNY.

    Slightly offtopic but it’s x25 related, Pro 6 vs Pro 5 loading lots of everything 3 mins video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aSOMV9TNlQ

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      If this is legit the X25 is much quicker.

      • realjjj
        April 20, 2016

        Proper source with some written explanations (in Chinese) http://www.expreview.com/46713.html

      • Lazar Prodanovic
        April 21, 2016

        Not really. No surprise hire. If they do a HTP test Exunos would won a big time.

        • realjjj
          April 21, 2016

          Large pdf waring – CorePilot 3 whitepaper http://cdn-cw.mediatek.com/White%20Papers/MediaTek%20CorePilot%203.0%20White%20Paper%20PDFCP3WP%200915.pdf
          MTK isn’t doing nothing when it comes to power management. If you have access you can also check their ISSCC presentation.
          Power management is supposed to be a strength for the x20.
          Anyway the point of this “test” seems to be to try to address concerns about eMMC crippling load times. Rudimentary test but they do show it’s not slow.

          • Lazar Prodanovic
            April 21, 2016

            Now considered this just as a short brake off the enlisted science works that you will find in used literature. & remember this actually applies not only to the fair scheduler but all that use its base.
            http://www.ece.ubc.ca/~sasha/papers/eurosys16-final29.pdf
            Actuality they did try with a hotplug aka “Core Pilot” to overcome a part of it & even it’s a good hot plug (& nothing else) it still actually represent a pore try simply because a simple load balancing across the cluster is better (power & performance wise).
            Now you should really stop to read pore comercial literature & switch to better scientific one. That so called “wite paper” can hardly pass even as a pure propagande brochure.
            The IO governor along with used NAND is a other pair of slippers but still tied with trading & overheads.

      • realjjj
        April 21, 2016

        They also do MI 5 vs S7 Edge http://www.expreview.com/46626.html
        Assuming the tests are comparable , the Edge does 2:24 and the MI5 seems to have some issues and ends up at 3:29

  19. SnowyCat
    April 20, 2016

    i dont care of lte, and i dont use the headphone jack tooo often as i usually lsiten voer bluetooth…i jsut listen to mp3 and no high quality audio stuff :p

    but i’m really concerned about camera and software…i’m so used to miui/flyme that i dont mind software without app drawer and such stuff

    but flyme and miui have plenty of features and regular updates..how is it over there with letv?

    any experience from apst letv phones?

    i’m looking for a 5,5″ phone with quickcharge..helio x20 or better..fhd decent camera and i guess the le 2 pro could fit that pretty well..since the mi 5 is a bit to small

    guess i gotta wait for reviews especially on camera quality.. else i might also consider waiting for the mx 6 if it will have 5,5″ hopefully.

    • Raul
      April 20, 2016

      I have the Le 1s for 6 months and I can tell you I am more than happy with the software support the phone has received, every month I get updates and regarding the camera quality it has improved a lot since Andi did the initial review in December, and I can say the software is pretty well optimized out of 3 GBs of RAM I have an average of 1.5 GB free with no apps in the background.

    • SnowyCat
      April 20, 2016

      thanks for the reply…so i’ll think a bit about it but for me and my needs the le 2 pro looks almost perfect (for me) and there is a cool pink version aswell ^_^

    • Raul
      April 20, 2016

      My only gripe about LeTV staff is that they didn’t bring the 6.0 update yet not even sure if they will, but they at least addressed the problems the phone had

    • SnowyCat
      April 20, 2016

      well i dont know..i dont really mind android versions that much because the main functions on my xiaomi phoen all come with miui and that gets regular updates in terms of features and there are no like security holes..so i couldnt care less about the android version as long as the phone performs great…

      the only place i can see the android version is in the about phone screen

    • MattD
      April 20, 2016

      Let’s keep an eye on zuk tomorrow, they’re supposed to launch the Z2

    • MaxPower
      April 20, 2016

      It’s going to be a good phone but in my opinion there’s no chance they will price it at $299 like the Z1.

      A 64GB with SD820 will go easily for $399 (if not even more)

    • LastoftheBrunnen_G
      April 20, 2016

      I agree with this comment. The Le 1S’ cam and memory usage was initially horrible but has since leapfrogged my Note 3 Pro thanks to LeEco’s hard work on software improvements. The only issue I have is that they’re still suck using Android 5.0.2.

    • MattD
      April 20, 2016

      Probably they won’t, seeing how they’re not officially cutting the price of z1… Looks like they’re following oneplus route in this too… But, like I said before, with good specs it could still be a deal even at an higher price tag…

    • MaxPower
      April 20, 2016

      We’ll see tomorrow what’s gonna happen.

  20. illystor
    April 20, 2016

    All the batteries are removable?

    • MUG3NHC
      April 20, 2016

      Nope.

    • illystor
      April 20, 2016

      Then the tables need a little work

    • MUG3NHC
      April 20, 2016

      Me no get it…
      Edit: now i get it;D

    • illystor
      April 20, 2016

      This article, the page, the one we’re one, right now, lists all the batteries as removable.

    • MUG3NHC
      April 20, 2016

      It looks like a unibody built, so i really don’t think so.

    • illystor
      April 20, 2016

      Yes, I know. I’m trying to draw attention to GizChina’s error.

    • MUG3NHC
      April 20, 2016

      Well, they didn’t notice yet. Maybe tomorrow;)

  21. DarthBatman
    April 20, 2016

    Hoping these come to India soon. Really hating Xiaomi right now for not having enough 3GB+32GB units to sell even after a month and half of launch.

    • Assefa Hanson
      April 20, 2016

      for the note 3?

    • DarthBatman
      April 20, 2016

      Yes. I guess Xiaomi are offloading all their 2GB+16GB phones, and are getting very few takers. There’s never enough stock of the 3GB model and it’s only in Gold color anyway. You should see the XiaomiIndia and RedmiIndia facebook pages. People are truly frustrated. They haven’t even revealed number of units sold like they used to shout out after each flash sale all these years. Fishy!

    • E8hffff
      April 20, 2016

      People are a awake up now and don’t want last year’s or the year before tech phones. Frontline specs or passed on.

    • DarthBatman
      April 20, 2016

      Exactly! Xiaomi tried something similar when they launched Redmi Note Prime with really outdated specs instead of Note 2. I know they couldn’t because of the Ericsson issue (which is really stupid, just pay them and move on, stop being so stupid dammit). They launched they RN3 SD variant early to undercut Letv’s sales – knowing they themselves don’t have the units to sell. But 5 of my friends have now gone for the Le1s since the RN3 wasn’t available. They don’t see that their brand value is going down. That’s really a good time for LeEco to launch in India, who if I remember correctly, sold 200,000 phones in only 3 flash sales.

    • Assefa Hanson
      April 20, 2016

      wow damn, look at this, having the specs is one thing but availability is another

  22. balcobomber25
    April 20, 2016

    Everyone I know who has one loves their LeTV. I just couldn’t imagine using a phone with no headphone jack. Also these suffer from the same black border syndrome that the Mi5 does. Looks like Meizu Pro 6 is still my top phone.

    • illystor
      April 20, 2016

      I want to love the Pro 6 and am really still tempted… I just need to see some reasonable battery life numbers. I want to believe that everything is okay… but I need proof.

    • Guest
      April 20, 2016

      Reading the closing parts (under last slide) of this may change your mind:

      https://meizufans.eu/meizu-pro-6-truely-interesting-device/

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      I hope it is similar to the Gionee S7. That was a 5.2in phone with a 2700mAh and a MT6752 and it had very good battery life.

    • SnowyCat
      April 20, 2016

      i really like how they look :p and in terms of pricing..i’m really tempted as this one looks the most promising so far (for my needs) ^^

      will wait out a review on camera performance , display and battery life on the pro version

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      Didn’t effect my opinion at all. I could write one of those articles praising the phone. There are several errors in his little rant as well. He says it is a less powerful Pro 5. It is not the X25 in the Pro 6 is more powerful than the Exnyos in the Pro 5. He says it is a more expensive Pro 5, it is not. The Pro 6 launch prices (2499/2799) is actually less than the Pro 5’s (2799/3099) was. Sounded more like he started with the premise that it was going to be bad and then did everything possible to arrive at that conclusion.

    • Guest
      April 20, 2016

      Fair enough. Makes me feel better. Still not sure what to go with myself. ZUK Z2 Pro tomorrow – lets see what that brings !

    • MaxPower
      April 20, 2016

      Omg, I was so excited that I didn’t even notice that border.
      Dark background makes it look less noticeable.

      Also I didn’t even notice that the fingerprint scanner is on the back (doesn’t work to me)

      The price is extremely attractive though, I’ll be waiting for others to come out.
      Buy so far they are on top of my list

    • NextHype
      April 20, 2016

      LeEco team up with FIIL on this CDLA thing. They’ll deliver USB Type C headphones in 2K16. FIIL seems to deliver hi-end headphones already so it may be interesting. It may be a bit pricy btw…

      There is an article on gizmotimes about LeECO / FIIL / CDLA.

      Dunno if this would beat a phone with a DAC like Pro 5 or LG V10 + hi quality headphones…

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      The black border is the first thing I notice in phones now lol. Price isn’t that important to me (within reasons, still can’t justify the P9’s price), and I couldn’t live with having to look at that black border and not being able to use my headphones without an adapter.

    • Sere83
      April 20, 2016

      I agree that having no headphone jack is retarded. BUT and its a big but. On paper at least the Meizu Pro 6 is just wildly overpriced considering what LeTV and no doubt others soon will be offering.

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      I actually watched S7yler’s unboxing of the black Mi5 today and it does look a lot better than the white version. If Xiaomi can improve the camera I might give the Mi5 another chance…

    • Sere83
      April 20, 2016

      nah, cant get over that home button, just too shit for words. Great price though.

    • Guest
      April 20, 2016

      Only if its the Pro version. Thats the one I’m eyeing up.

    • SnowyCat
      April 20, 2016

      maybe the honor v8 will be your next phone ^_^

      i dont mind black borders that much..i dunno i even think while watching videos i like a small black border around the screen.

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      It drives me crazy lol. If I was gonna buy a Huawei it would be the P9, the Honor would be a tease to me.

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      Still not a huge fan of the design but I really love MIUI, didn’t realize how much I missed it until I got my Mipad 2.

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      I love home buttons so it doesn’t bother me.

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      For some I can see that argument but price isn’t high on my list of considerations. Anything under $500 price doesn’t really factor in for me.

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      The problem is I already have 3 pairs of headphones I love and all have 3.5mm

    • Guest
      April 20, 2016

      This article on MIUI, hot off the press, may interest you:

      http://www.xda-developers.com/going-over-to-the-dark-side-the-comprehensive-miui-review/

    • Sere83
      April 20, 2016

      The issue is that when another company offers practically the same spec for significantly less and most probably not a lot of difference in features / performance / build then you have to firstly question meizus strategy but also personally weather it is worth it paying significantly more cash for hardly any real advantages. At the moment i’m not sure it is, because as much as i love meizu they are not wildly better than LeTv when it comes to features/performance/build.

    • Sere83
      April 20, 2016

      There will be an adaptor you can use. I would much prefer a headphone jack but the only time it will pose an actual issue in operation is when charging and wanting to listen to audio/video at the same time

    • Sere83
      April 20, 2016

      I dont mind home buttons, but not criminally ugly ones. Thought you didn’t like the mi5 design?

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      I hate the rear and side design. I think it’s ugly. I don’t mind the front in black, not my favorite but not the worst either. I love MIUI though and miss using it.

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      I’m not a fan of adapters, just something else for me to lose. And if I do lose it I am SOL.

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      It all comes down to brand preference and individual tastes. Millions of people in China still buy Galaxys when they can get a Mi5 with near identical specs for $300 less. For me the lack of a headphone jack and that ugly blak border are too much no matter the price.

    • Sere83
      April 20, 2016

      Wish I could say the same. Chuffed not to be using a phone held back by that buggy ram hogging OS. I am tiring of stock and stockesque roms like cyanogen though, very bland design wise. Still love flyme.

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      I like Flyme a lot but there’s a lot about MIUI i miss. Flyme has certainly grown on me and I would say it’s pretty much a lighter version of MIUI.

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      Makes me miss it all the more.

    • Guest
      April 20, 2016

      Nice write up actually.

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      Yea was very thorough and detailed. One of the main things I miss between Flyme and MIUI is the crazy amount of customization MIUI has.

    • Guest
      April 20, 2016

      Yeah you are right Balco, that video could give anyone the envy to get the MI5 in Black color. S7yler is doing IMO the best reviews on the web! It is unfortunate that I did not have the budget for the MI5, it is the ideal phone in terms of size and performance. It would have been great if Xiaomi could have proposed the MI5 basic version by removing that expensive technology they used for the camera. By using an improved camera, I mean better than the one used in MI4 could have lowered the costs. I do not care about SD820, a MI5 basic model with SD652 would have been perfect at a great price.

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      S7yler is good, C4eTech is good, Col Zap is good. There’s a few on YT that do a great job.

    • Nam Dang
      April 21, 2016

      Okay, now I’m excited: which headphones are you using?

    • balcobomber25
      April 21, 2016

      1. Sennheiser Momentum (in-ear, use them for running)
      2. Meizu HD50 (on ear, use them when I travel)
      3. Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7 (over ear, use them at home)

    • Nam Dang
      April 21, 2016

      Audio Technica ATH-MSR7 are nice cans, actually I’m more into audiophile headphones than smartphones lol
      I’m using Sony MA900, SoundMAGIC HP150, SoundMAGIC E10 currently, but will get AKG K712 Pro and Beyerdynamic T1 again in future haha

    • NextHype
      April 21, 2016

      Nice headphones ^^

      I’m a pretty big fan of Audio Technica too, i’m using ATH-M50 for music production and ATH-ANC70 (noise cancelling) when travelling. ATH-MSR7 is a beast, but it’s a bit pricy for me.

      In fact my everyday in-ear buds are Xiaomi Piston 2… i bought them as a test and finally keep them, as i really like their low/med dynamics. But i’m probably going to buy an ATH-CKxxx model soon, hehe.

    • balcobomber25
      April 21, 2016

      Yea I used some much more expensive sets than the ATH’s but the first time I put those on I fell in love with them. Just got them a few weeks ago actually.

  23. E8hffff
    April 20, 2016

    In the box you do get a 2.5mm Audio Jack->USB C cable but when plugged in you can’t charge. What that means is you can’t listen using conventional headphones whilst having a USB cable in charging. Most likely down the track someone will release a hybrid cable that have both the audio jack and the follow-through female USB C.

  24. Fábio
    April 20, 2016

    This black borders in bottom and top are ugly.
    Why Leeco (letv) don’t launch phones in black color?

    • E8hffff
      April 20, 2016

      Agree the shell colours are awful. If I get one I may aim for silver and get a silicone case to hide the light colour. I personally don’t want to advertise I have a phone or bling-it.

      I can get over the bezel/borders if the phone has tons of features.

      This seems to be LeTv’s Vowney.

  25. greg
    April 20, 2016

    Le 2 Pro 64GB version ,should be freaking awesome for the price tag right ?

  26. greg
    April 20, 2016

    Why they didn´t include a micro sd slot? , is beyond me ,just don´t make any sense

    • Assefa Hanson
      April 20, 2016

      keep down the price?

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      Some brands do include them others dont.

    • Marco Lancaster
      April 21, 2016

      I think it is more a philosophy…

  27. JudikJ7
    April 20, 2016

    The LeMax 2 seems to have more FDD-LTE Bands http://www.lemall.com/le_max2/parameter.html

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      Link doesn’t work for me.

    • JudikJ7
      April 20, 2016

      that’s weird but here is a screenshot

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      I see several of the US LTE bands there listed and they have said they wanted to enter the US, so maybe they will have a Chinese model and an international model with more bands.

    • MaxPower
      April 20, 2016

      That would be fantastic.

    • LastoftheBrunnen_G
      April 20, 2016

      Since it’s a Qualcomm chipset itself likely to be the international version. I feel that is the only thing that is hindering my 1S being booged down with Chinese crap glued to the Chinese ROM.

    • Omer
      April 20, 2016

      Hate that they put fake misleading photos on there, with hardly any black border around the screen. Those thick black borders are a dealbreaker for me. PS: What’s the weight of these guys? Couldn’t see in those links.

    • E8hffff
      April 20, 2016

      So you’ve had a bad experience with Qualcomm and hacking community supplying custom roms?

    • MaxPower
      April 20, 2016

      Page not found

    • E8hffff
      April 20, 2016

      They work for me in Australia.

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      There’s plenty of Qualcomm phones that don’t have every band available. Like the Xiaomi Mi5, it only has bands 1, 3 and 7 for FDD.

    • E8hffff
      April 20, 2016

      Watching a review video the bezels are fairly big. Similar to Elephone Vowney.

    • Omer
      April 20, 2016

      That’s what I mean: The promo pics don’t show the thick black borders. It’s pure fraudulence, think about it. They should be sued.

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      For a lot of these Chinese phones the US is inevitability. Especially a company like LeTV that also deals with media consumption besides their phones. I would say 3-5 years they will all be in the states.

    • LastoftheBrunnen_G
      April 20, 2016

      No it’s just MediaTek’s SOC are banned in India so many vendors won’t bother with international Roms.

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      Mediatek SoCs aren’t band, companies just have to get the necessary patents to use them there. Micromax, Gionee and a few others sell Mediatek phones in India.

    • MaxPower
      April 20, 2016

      I’m starting losing hopes with Xiaomi. Their logistic is a joke, Indians are mad, and with these LeTV phones coming out soon it’s going to be even harder for Xiaomi.

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      I don’t really understand the whole India thing. Every other company in India worked out a deal to sell MTK devices. It seems their little pissing match with Ericsson is costing them millions in sales.

  28. Beloved Chairman Lei Jun
    April 20, 2016

    They killed everyone with their prices today

    • Sere83
      April 20, 2016

      Yeah if i was meizu, id be worried

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      Market is big enough for both of them to sell well.

  29. MaxPower
    April 20, 2016

    All of them!!!
    What the f…k is wrong with these guys?!?
    OMG!!!!!
    I want all of them!!!

    • Xiaolu
      April 20, 2016

      lol

    • LastoftheBrunnen_G
      April 20, 2016

      I own both the Redmi Note 3 Pro and Le 1S though I must say that I love the screen, speaker and cam (after update) on the LeEco. The only thing that really keeps me with the Note 3 Pro is the insane battery life that allows me to go through the whole day without recharging.

    • MaxPower
      April 20, 2016

      Yeah, battery is insane and I’m not sure I’m ready to a downgrade on that department.
      I guess aging makes you care more about useful stuff rather than eye candies.

      I would love to get a great camera phone with hi-fi audio though.

      I’m gonna keep an eye on one of these, especially if US LTE bands are confirmed.

    • SnowyCat
      April 20, 2016

      same..they seem so perfect for me..cant wait for reviews on screen, camera quality and battery ^^

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      I just can’t get past the headphone jack and the border.

      On a side note I am considering the black mi5. Guess it’s the fanboy in me lol.

    • MaxPower
      April 20, 2016

      The border is ugly indeed.
      Even my older MI4 didn’t have the border that thick.

      All of those 3 phones are great deal, can’t say differently. Maybe not the phones for me.
      Let’s see what Oneplus can deliver

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      I’m giving everyone a chance to win me over this year. I have two budget phones on the way, ThL T7 and Vernee Thor. Give me some time to play with them before buying my next real phone.

    • Yash Garg
      April 20, 2016

      Honestly, I know that feeling.

    • Nam Dang
      April 21, 2016

      I’m also considering buying the black Mi5 – homebutton doesn’t look that bad as everyone says and new Android version 6.0 needs optimizations overall – camera is okay, I’m more concerned about audio recording since some YT videos show good quality and some really bad one.

    • balcobomber25
      April 21, 2016

      It’s about 4th on my list of phones I am considering. Meizu Pro 6 and Gionee S8 are 1 and 2, Huawei P9 is 3rd.

    • Marco Lancaster
      April 21, 2016

      Off-Topic: Seems that Redmi Note 3 pro is finally getting some “custom-stuff” love, such as proper TWRP and some AOSP Roms, tried one? I’m tempeted to upgrade from my Jiayu into this phone, fits okay for my usage, but I tend to prefer Stock android, CM. But I’ve said that already.

    • MaxPower
      April 21, 2016

      I haven’t checked it yet, if it works then I’m in.
      I’m still waiting for the unlock code though.

    • Nam Dang
      April 21, 2016

      It’s also 4th on my list: I’ll wait for Meizu Pro 6, Meizu MX6 (I suppose release date will be May) and LeEco Max 2 being reviewed.

    • balcobomber25
      April 21, 2016

      I wouldnt expect MX6 in May. If they release one I think it will be late June/early
      july.

  30. Xiaolu
    April 20, 2016

    Removable battery, sure? O.o

    • E8hffff
      April 20, 2016

      Seems to be built in.

    • Yash Garg
      April 20, 2016

      Sorry, my mistake! All of these have non-removable batteries of course. 🙂 (updated — thanks 😉 )

    • Xiaolu
      April 21, 2016

      I totally understand you! Crappy week, full of little mistakes (too much coffee, few hours sleep). Keep on the good work!

    • Yash Garg
      April 21, 2016

      too much coffee implies few hours sleep anyway 😉 cheers!

  31. E8hffff
    April 20, 2016

    Le2 Pro seems to be the sweet spot. The only gripe is the 3000mAh battery and I’m not into light coloured phones.

    Audio through USB C maybe expensive to get the cabling if not included.

    No NFC it seems.

    The extra $95 to get a SD820 isn’t reasonable.

    • MaxPower
      April 20, 2016

      You get a bigger phone, ultrasonic fingerprint scanner, 6 GB RAM, 64GB storage

    • E8hffff
      April 20, 2016

      True. 2K screen + more memory. etc. It was my mistake as I thought initially the Pro and Max were the same, bar the SoC.

    • MaxPower
      April 20, 2016

      The price is great for each phone.

    • realjjj
      April 20, 2016

      I would argue that the 2 is better value. For 1 extra GB of RAM and a better cam ,300CNY over the 2 is a lot. The Max is just the best deal with SD820 so that’s nice. Ofc the 2 Pro is not poor value for now as there is no competition yet but in the end whatever fits your needs best.

    • SnowyCat
      April 20, 2016

      would like to see a camera comparison soon..cant wait for these phones.

      the pro also seems to have a bit different design with the front glass compared to the normal 2

    • realjjj
      April 20, 2016

      this China site has some pic samples if you scroll way down http://www.anzhuo.cn/review/p_11249

    • SnowyCat
      April 20, 2016

      wait thats the normal le2 or? actually the camera performance doesnt seem to be that bad..i expected like redmi note 3 levels. because of the price

      is the 230 the same sensor and lenses in the 2 pro like in the max?

    • E8hffff
      April 20, 2016
    • realjjj
      April 20, 2016

      Don’t think the Pro 2 has OIS but it’s a bit unclear as they list it in some places.
      http://www.lemall.com/le_max2/parameter.html
      http://www.lemall.com/le_2pro/parameter.html

    • SnowyCat
      April 20, 2016

      yeah i mean except for ois :p because of the price ^^ but yeah have to wait for some like full resolution shots but on some of the pictures i even liked the result of the 16mp le 2 entry model a bit more.

  32. Omer
    April 20, 2016

    Pity the Pro has such a protruding camera.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Ol0tQRXOU

  33. MattD
    April 20, 2016

    Spoiler: resellers will steal usb-3.5 jack adapter from the boxes and will sell it for an high price… So it will most likely disappoint whoever will give letv a try…

  34. E8hffff
    April 20, 2016

    The Le 2 Pro comes in two versions, x20 or X25.

  35. Manjurul Islam
    April 20, 2016

    Without any doubt the max 2. Seriously only $390, though reseller price will be around 450..

  36. Manjurul Islam
    April 20, 2016

    Where are wireless charging, NFC? And how will be there ois on max? Better than mi5 4-axis? And focusing system – no laser but what is there? Pdaf? No microsd? Color option? This gold looks kind of girly.

  37. Michael Ogbonnaya
    April 20, 2016

    The Le Max 2 is by far the phone I am eyeing here. And the Le Pro 2 for me wifey. I love what they did with the prices.

    • realjjj
      April 20, 2016

      Would be nice if they release the Max Pro at some point too, it’s still not in retail.

    • SnowyCat
      April 20, 2016

      isnt the “max pro” the le max 2 ? since it has the same 820 6gb ram configuration

    • realjjj
      April 20, 2016

      No the Max Pro was 6.33 inch, SD820, 4GB, wifi ad and they sold 1k pre-production units and then nothing.

  38. Roberto Tomás
    April 20, 2016

    “It has been learnt that LeEco plans to bring at least one of these phones to the US later this year.” wha??

    • Yash Garg
      April 20, 2016

      that’s what we hear!

    • Owsley_66
      April 20, 2016

      They’ve been talking about entering the U.S. market almost from the beginning and if they actually do then it’ll probably the model with the 820. That’d be my guess.

  39. realjjj
    April 20, 2016

    You forgot the Pro 2 with x20 at 1399CNY.

    Slightly offtopic but it’s x25 related, Pro 6 vs Pro 5 loading lots of everything 3 mins video

    • balcobomber25
      April 20, 2016

      If this is legit the X25 is much quicker.

    • realjjj
      April 20, 2016

      Proper source with some written explanations (in Chinese) http://www.expreview.com/46713.html

    • Lazar Prodanovic
      April 21, 2016

      Not really. No surprise hire. If they do a HTP test Exunos would won a big time.
      Edit: after all X25 have a nominal sped that is 300 MHz higher (12%), A72 is around 15% faster (at least) & ART in M should be 20% faster in execution of code & a little bit faster in loading of same. So all in all 11.5% faster load times aren’t a big step forward. You certainly won’t feel that in real usage. What you culd feel anyhow is switching between two huge apps or games or combined & then lead would be on Exunos side since it has quad A57 cluster so no need for migration between clusters no termination of proces & with proper load balancing it can even save power (but this is probably to much to wish for).

    • realjjj
      April 21, 2016

      Large pdf waring – CorePilot 3 whitepaper http://cdn-cw.mediatek.com/White%20Papers/MediaTek%20CorePilot%203.0%20White%20Paper%20PDFCP3WP%200915.pdf
      MTK isn’t doing nothing when it comes to power management. If you have access you can also check their ISSCC presentation.
      Power management is supposed to be a strength for the x20.
      Anyway the point of this “test” seems to be to try to address concerns about eMMC crippling load times. Rudimentary test but they do show it’s not slow.

    • realjjj
      April 21, 2016

      They also do MI 5 vs S7 Edge http://www.expreview.com/46626.html
      Assuming the tests are comparable , the Edge does 2:24 and the MI5 seems to have some issues and ends up at 3:29

    • Lazar Prodanovic
      April 21, 2016

      Now considere this just as a short brake off the enlisted science works that you will find in used literature. & remember this actually applies not only to the fair scheduler but all that use its base.
      http://www.ece.ubc.ca/~sasha/papers/eurosys16-final29.pdf
      Actuality they did try with a hotplug aka “Core Pilot” to overcome a part of it & even it’s a good hot plug (& nothing else) it still actually represent a pore try simply because a simple load balancing across the cluster is better (power & performance wise).
      Now you should really stop to read pore comercial literature & switch to better scientific one. That so called “wite paper” can hardly pass even as a pure propagande brochure.
      The IO governor along with used NAND is a other pair of slippers but still tied with trading & overheads.

  40. E8hffff
    April 20, 2016

    In the box you do get a 2.5mm Audio Jack->USB C cable but when plugged in you can’t charge. What that means is you can’t listen using conventional headphones whilst having a USB cable in charging. Most likely down the track someone will release a hybrid cable that have both the audio jack and the follow-through female USB C.

  41. Fábio
    April 20, 2016

    This black borders in bottom and top are ugly.
    Why Leeco (letv) don’t launch phones in black color?

    • E8hffff
      April 20, 2016

      Agree the shell colours are awful. If I get one I may aim for silver and get a black silicone case to hide the light colour. I personally don’t want to advertise I have a phone or bling-it.

      I can get over the bezel/borders if the phone has tons of features.

      This seems to be LeTv’s Vowney.

  42. Omer
    April 20, 2016

    Pity the Pro has such a protruding camera..

  43. MattD
    April 20, 2016

    Spoiler: resellers will steal usb-3.5 jack adapter from the boxes and will sell it for an high price… So it will most likely disappoint whoever will give letv a try…

  44. Manjurul Islam
    April 20, 2016

    Where are wireless charging, NFC? And how will be there ois on max? Better than mi5 4-axis? And focusing system – no laser but what is there? Pdaf? No microsd? Color option? This gold looks kind of girly.

  45. Yōsei
    April 21, 2016

    I will pick nothing, sucks battery capacity.

  46. Lazar Prodanovic
    April 21, 2016

    From those 3 the base Le 2 is definitely a best choice as price is nice. As much as I don’t like battery capacity I do like it’s removable if that is true. Don’t like LeTV amount of bloat but do like their build quality.

    • Mr.Flying Zoom3rz
      June 22, 2016

      It’s not removable

  47. Pedro Peter
    April 21, 2016

    Dont like it

  48. Yōsei
    April 21, 2016

    I will pick nothing, sucks battery capacity.

  49. Enigma
    April 21, 2016

    Congratulations to LeEco for producing such a wonderful trio of smartphones. In Indian context LeEco Le 2 will kill the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 straight away along with many other Chinese branded phones from Vivo, Oppo and Gionee which retails at twice its price!!! Also Le 2 Pro and Le Max 2 with prices so low, it’s like someone is trying to disrupt the market. The pricing kills everything. While heaping all the praise to the recent LeEco devices with stellar hardware and built quality, I for one will be the first to stay away from this trio. The main reason is the absence of the iconic 3.5 mm headphone audio jack and second being the lack of a memory expansion slot.

    With this trio of recent LeEco devices following digital audio transmission over USB Type-C ports incorporating CDLA tech, the lowest priced model Le 2 will have equivalent audio quality to the highest priced model Le Max 2 over the same headphone. This is a good for us end consumers but the problem lies thereafter. No matter how much LeEco touts about lossless digital audio through USB Type-C ports, the headphone speakers are analog in nature so there is a definite need to convert this digitally transmitted signal to analog audio signal for us to hear.

    Audiophile oriented smartphones like Vivo X5Max with its HiFi 2.0 audio architecture uses superlative in-built audio hardware to produce stellar sound quality through headphones. I own one of them. At first it bypasses the inbuilt crappy audio codec (digital to analog conversion) that comes default with every Snapdragon or MediaTek chipsets. Then the lossless digital audio from CPU goes straight through its sublime EES SABRE ES9018 discrete DAC for digital to analog conversion. Next in the audio path comes the exclusive use of ESS SABRE ES9601 operational amplifier to convert the analog current output from DAC to analog voltage output on which headphone speakers operate. And finally a high quality Texas Instruments OPA1612 headphone amplifier is used to pump up the volume, so as to simply plug in any audiophile grade in-ear headphones or ear buds and drive it to the maximum. But to drive audiophile headphones to maximum and then X5-Max’s in-built audio hardware a lot power (watts) is required. It comes from the in-built battery of the phone through independent audio power supplies. Thus the output through 3.5mm female headphone jack of X5Max is analog in nature and you can plug in any headphones from Sennheiser, AKG, Audio-Technica, Shure, Grado, Sony, Koss with a 3.5m male audio jack. You do not have to worry about all the digital to analog conversion stuff as it is taken care inside the phone.

    For the new LeEco smartphones, they have opted to perform the digital to analog conversion and subsequent audio amplification outside their smartphones, which increases complications as adequate amounts of power needs to be channeled to the headphone along with the digital audio signal through USB Type-C port. Now the DAC and headphone amplifier needs to reside inside a special type of headphone. The additional hardware inside the headphones will gulp all the power in order to operate and then it will start converting the digital audio signal to analog audio on which headphone speakers operate and produce sound. And we have not yet touched topics like independent audio power supply of X5Max which will filter and distill the power from batteries and feed the hungry DACs and op-amps with stable, unadulterated and ripple free power to operate at maximum.

    Pick anyone of the LeEco devices and they will sound drastically different as the inbuilt DACs and operational amplifiers of each headphone brand will vary in quality and output. Which denotes the sound signature and tonality will also vary per headphone brand and type. On one hand you will get crappy sound with a compatible cheap headphone with Le Max 2 and then amazing sound quality if ever any audiophile headphone manufacturer in their wildest dreams thinks about making a LeEco compatible unit. In the end we are all drastically limited with the amount of headphones in offer from LeEco ecosystem and their availability. You can kiss goodbye to all your existing audiophile headphones. So as music lover current Le Eco devices are a no go for me.

    Next comes the topic of memory availability inside the phone. With tons of lossless audio FLAC files which are very big in size I need a minimum of 128 gigs to store my favorite songs. And the Le Max 2 only comes with 64 gigs internal (maybe around 55 gigs available) with no option from memory expansion. In the end even though I have my own share of regrets about the recent LeEco devices, I wish all the rest 90% of the smartphone buyers will be very happy with their products which have become icons for providing stellar quality smartphones at very aggressive prices in India. Cheers!!!

    • Alexis T
      April 21, 2016

      Damn you’re right… CDLA tech implies getting DAC & Amp outside of the phone (ie. inside the headphones). Thats a fraud (or a total fuckery), not a technological advance. This + black borders + on screen buttons = no LeMax2.for me.

      • Mr.Flying Zoom3rz
        June 22, 2016

        Don’t forget +no sd slot. ?

  50. Lazar Prodanovic
    April 21, 2016

    From those 3 the base Le 2 is definitely a best choice as price is nice. As much as I don’t like battery capacity I do like it’s removable if that is true. Don’t like LeTV amount of bloat but do like their build quality.

    • Mr.Flying Zoom3rz
      June 22, 2016

      It’s not removable

  51. Enigma
    April 21, 2016

    Congratulations to LeEco for producing such a wonderful trio of smartphones. In Indian context LeEco Le 2 will kill the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 straight away along with many other Chinese branded phones from Vivo, Oppo and Gionee which retails at twice its price!!! Also Le 2 Pro and Le Max 2 with prices so low, it’s like someone is trying to disrupt the market. The pricing kills everything. While heaping all the praise to the recent LeEco devices with stellar hardware and built quality, I for one will be the first to stay away from this trio. The main reason is the absence of the iconic 3.5 mm headphone audio jack and second being the lack of a memory expansion slot.

    With this trio of recent LeEco devices following digital audio transmission over USB Type-C ports incorporating CDLA tech, the lowest priced model Le 2 will have equivalent audio quality to the highest priced model Le Max 2 over the same headphone. This is a good for us end consumers but the problem lies thereafter. No matter how much LeEco touts about lossless digital audio through USB Type-C ports, the headphone speakers are analog in nature so there is a definite need to convert this digitally transmitted signal to analog audio signal for us to hear.

    Audiophile oriented smartphones like Vivo X5Max with its HiFi 2.0 audio architecture uses superlative in-built audio hardware to produce stellar sound quality through headphones. I own one of them. At first it bypasses the inbuilt crappy audio codec (digital to analog conversion) that comes default with every Snapdragon or MediaTek chipsets. Then the lossless digital audio from CPU goes straight through its sublime ESS SABRE ES9018 discrete DAC for digital to analog conversion. Next in the audio path comes the exclusive use of ESS SABRE ES9601 operational amplifier to convert the analog current output from DAC to analog voltage output on which headphone speakers operate. And finally a high quality Texas Instruments OPA1612 headphone amplifier is used to pump up the volume, so as to simply plug in any audiophile grade in-ear headphones or ear buds and drive it to the maximum. But to drive audiophile headphones to maximum and then X5-Max’s in-built audio hardware a lot power (watts) is required. It comes from the in-built battery of the phone through independent audio power supplies. Thus the output through 3.5mm female headphone jack of X5Max is analog in nature and you can plug in any headphones from Sennheiser, AKG, Audio-Technica, Shure, Grado, Sony, Koss with a 3.5m male audio jack. You do not have to worry about all the digital to analog conversion stuff as it is taken care inside the phone.

    For the new LeEco smartphones, they have opted to perform the digital to analog conversion and subsequent audio amplification outside their smartphones, which increases complications as adequate amounts of power needs to be channeled to the headphone along with the digital audio signal through USB Type-C port. Now the DAC and headphone amplifier needs to reside inside a special type of headphone. The additional hardware inside the headphones will gulp all the power in order to operate and then it will start converting the digital audio signal to analog audio on which headphone speakers operate and produce sound. And we have not yet touched topics like independent audio power supply of X5Max which will filter and distill the power from batteries and feed the hungry DACs and op-amps with stable, unadulterated and ripple free power to operate at maximum.

    Pick anyone of the LeEco devices and it will sound drastically different as the inbuilt DACs and operational amplifiers of each headphone brand will vary in quality and output. Which denotes the sound signature and tonality will also vary per headphone brand and type. On one hand you will get crappy sound with a compatible cheap headphone with Le Max 2 and then amazing sound quality if ever any audiophile headphone manufacturer in their wildest dreams thinks about making a LeEco compatible unit. In the end we are all drastically limited with the amount of headphones in offer from LeEco ecosystem and their availability. You can kiss goodbye to all your existing audiophile headphones. So as music lover current Le Eco devices are a no go for me.

    Next comes the topic of memory availability inside the phone. With tons of lossless audio FLAC files which are very big in size I need a minimum of 128 gigs to store my favorite songs. And the Le Max 2 only comes with 64 gigs internal (maybe around 55 gigs available) with no option from memory expansion. In the end even though I have my own share of regrets about the recent LeEco devices, I wish all the rest 90% of the smartphone buyers will be very happy with their products which have become icons for providing stellar quality smartphones at very aggressive prices in India. Cheers!!!

    • NextHype
      April 21, 2016

      Damn you’re right… CDLA tech implies getting DAC & Amp outside of the phone (ie. inside the headphones). Thats a fraud (or a total fuckery), not a technological advance. This + black borders + on screen buttons = no LeMax2.for me.

    • Mr.Flying Zoom3rz
      June 22, 2016

      Don’t forget +no sd slot. 😁

  52. Francis Sim
    April 21, 2016

    Will definitely miss NFC on these devices. Le 1 X600 was bogged down by its wifi antenna issues. I hope the new range will not suffer the same fate. Some correction though, Le 2 Pro will come in 2 versions, the Helio X20 and Helio X25. Probably due to X25 being exclusive to Meizu for a period of time?

  53. Francis Sim
    April 22, 2016

    Will definitely miss NFC on these devices. Le 1 X600 was bogged down by its wifi antenna issues. I hope the new range will not suffer the same fate. Some correction though, Le 2 Pro will come in 2 versions, the Helio X20 and Helio X25. Probably due to X25 being exclusive to Meizu for a period of time?

  54. Mezz
    April 22, 2016

    The most important (sd card & battery) is not here.

  55. Mezz
    April 22, 2016

    The most important (sd card & battery) is not here.