The big controversy in the iPhone camp is that the iPhone 7 will not feature a 3.5mm headphone jack, we have seen it before on Android devices, but are we likely to see more in 2016?
Apple could be ditching the 3.5mm headphone jack on their iPhone 7. Why? Well the reason is to free up space inside the new phone and also create a thinner device. Ditching the headphone jack on a phone isn’t a new idea though and as usual Apple are borrowing from Android.
Oppo already launched the Oppo R5 which was simply too thin to have a headphone jack. So for 2016 are we likely to see more phones ditch the old audio standard?
USB Type C
In the case of the iPhone 7, Apple can easily ditch the headphone jack and use their lightning connector, in fact there are already headphones available that will use the dock connector on iOS devices to play music through.
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On Android we have USB Type C and as ZUK showed with their Z1 launch in China, the new standard can also be used to run powered noise reduction headphones. With the adoption of USB Type C an all time high for Chinese phones, we could see that new models will follow Oppo and Apple and cancel 3.5mm headphones all together.
The removal of the headphone jack is obviously going to cause some backlash. Some consumers will see the move as a crash grab by manufacturers wanting to sell more accessories, but others are going to appreciate the change and the possible benefits they might bring.
Would you be willing to throw away your old headphones for USB Type C versions on future phones?
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OK, i think that you need to reconfigure the question and add a little clarification for usb type c, that in this sense is for audio out. like this:
I’d be happy to switch to USB Type C for audio out.
USB type c headphones will be expensive for me, and i would like to have my 3,5 mm jack along with type c connector.
Apple has been doing this for years already with their computers; removing ports and forcing users to buy additional dongles or adapters.
i have a large collection of headphones, all using the 3.5mm standard. i’m not aware of any decent headphones (read: audiophile) that don’t have a standard jack. and yes, while i think a new standard would be handy (e.g. magnetic break-away/connection as standard), using a digital connector for an analog output is a stupid idea.
besides, i really don’t get this fascination with ‘thin’ phones. i want something i can hold comfortably that doesn’t bend. i want a massive battery, an sd card slot, and all the gubbins. depth is necessary.
Depth is necessary indeed. Well said.
Personally I prefer thin phones but I can think of several that are under 7mm and still have a 3.5mm.
Of course the biggest problem with using the USB type C for audio is that you can’t charge it at the same time, I often have my phone charging whilst using headphones if I’m sat around the house so I would like to keep the 3.5mm standard. Besides which it would make all my existing headphones redundant and force me to buy new.
if you can get a cheap $5 USBC>3,5 jack adapter they yes.
Well as long as it doesn’t catch fire after plugging in my 100000000…. $ headphones 😛
I’m guessing you dont listen to Mozart 🙂
They have them like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATR2USB-3-5mm-Adapter/dp/B00I6ILPPC
i was picturing something small, something like the USBc adapters.
leave Apple alone. they charge royalties for have invented everything.
It’s not easy “inventing” all those products. It requires their scientists to spend a lot of times reading Android reviews and coming up with new names for the same technology.
Lol, good 1 balco…..
What about the FM antenna?
“we’ll give you less for an higher price, but that’s a good thing!”
Seriously?!
Main producers have been following this route recently: give consumers less things, and then push on the marketing button to make it look like a advantage when it’s clearly not.
“no microsd! That’s good, internal memory is much faster (although you don’t really need that speed)! Now, pay the extra 200$ for a bigger storage, no need to pay 20$ for a microsd with the same space!”
“slimmer devices with no removable battery! So stylish! Now you don’t need anymore to buy a 10$ backup battery, if you need more than 2 hours sot, just buy our 100$ original powerbank! Any issue with the phone? Send it back to us, that’s 50$ plus 100$ for every component we need to buy, battery included (but again, you don’t need to buy it anymore on amazon for 10$!).
I hope we get less retarded than this and start to push for what really matters, instead of let them think for ourselves and tell us what we should like and buy.
bluetooth
Vivo X5 Max is slimmest smartphone in the words, but still have 3.5mm headphone jack
For a guy thats fckin serious in audio , no fkin way im gonna ditch the 3.5 mm jack , fck the thin phones really 8 mm is k for me , i remember when 2 cm phones were considered thin , I wont listen to aphex twin through a usb type c jack , also my setup needs a charging port , FiioE10K->UsbHub->Powerbank->Phone , im making a lot of underground electro , myself lol so nope
I voted for type C, but in all honesty neither feature is really a must have for me. Type C is great for faster transfer rates if it is Type C 3.0, which isn’t always the case. I actually have been using a bluetooth set of headphones lately, and although the sound isn’t spectacular it is good enough for me.
Can you imagine the iPhone powering a pair of noise cancelling earbuds? iPhone users will either have to carry around a juice box-sized portable charger, or a REALLY long extension cord ;p
OK, i think that you need to reconfigure the question and add a little clarification for usb type c, that in this sense is for audio out. like this:
I’d be happy to switch to USB Type C for audio out.
USB type c headphones will be expensive for me, and i would like to have my 3,5 mm jack along with type c connector.
Depends on implementation.
Apple has been doing this for years already with their computers; removing ports and forcing users to buy additional dongles or adapters.
i have a large collection of headphones, all using the 3.5mm standard. i’m not aware of any decent headphones (read: audiophile) that don’t have a standard jack. and yes, while i think a new standard would be handy (e.g. magnetic break-away/connection as standard), using a digital connector for an analog output is a stupid idea.
besides, i really don’t get this fascination with ‘thin’ phones. i want something i can hold comfortably that doesn’t bend. i want a massive battery, an sd card slot, and all the gubbins. depth is necessary.
Depth is necessary indeed. Well said.
Personally I prefer thin phones but I can think of several that are under 7mm and still have a 3.5mm.
Of course the biggest problem with using the USB type C for audio is that you can’t charge it at the same time, I often have my phone charging whilst using headphones if I’m sat around the house so I would like to keep the 3.5mm standard. Besides which it would make all my existing headphones redundant and force me to buy new.
if you can get a cheap $5 USBC>3,5 jack adapter they yes.
Well as long as it doesn’t catch fire after plugging in my 100000000…. $ headphones 😛
I’m guessing you dont listen to Mozart 🙂
They have them like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATR2USB-3-5mm-Adapter/dp/B00I6ILPPC
I’m sure Apple will be selling Type C one’s for the incredibly low price of $49.99
i was picturing something small, something like the USBc adapters.
leave Apple alone. they charge royalties for have invented everything.
It’s not easy “inventing” all those products. It requires their scientists to spend a lot of times reading Android reviews and coming up with new names for the same technology.
Lol, good 1 balco…..
“we’ll give you less for an higher price, but that’s a good thing!”
Seriously?!
Main producers have been following this route recently: give consumers less things, and then push on the marketing button to make it look like a advantage when it’s clearly not.
“no microsd! That’s good, internal memory is much faster (although you don’t really need that speed)! Now, pay the extra 200$ for a bigger storage, no need to pay 20$ for a microsd with the same space!”
“slimmer devices with no removable battery! So stylish! Now you don’t need anymore to buy a 10$ backup battery, if you need more than 2 hours sot, just buy our 100$ original powerbank! Any issue with the phone? Send it back to us, that’s 50$ plus 100$ for every component we need to buy, battery included (but again, you don’t need to buy it anymore on amazon for 10$!).
I hope we get less retarded than this and start to push for what really matters, instead of let them think for ourselves and tell us what we should like and buy.
bluetooth
Vivo X5 Max is slimmest smartphone in the words, but still have 3.5mm headphone jack
For a guy thats fckin serious in audio , no fkin way im gonna ditch the 3.5 mm jack , fck the thin phones really 8 mm is k for me , i remember when 2 cm phones were considered thin , I wont listen to aphex twin through a usb type c jack , also my setup needs a charging port , FiioE10K->UsbHub->Powerbank->Phone , im making a lot of underground electro , myself lol so nope
I voted for type C, but in all honesty neither feature is really a must have for me. Type C is great for faster transfer rates if it is Type C 3.0, which isn’t always the case. I actually have been using a bluetooth set of headphones lately, and although the sound isn’t spectacular it is good enough for me.
Can you imagine the iPhone powering a pair of noise cancelling earbuds? iPhone users will either have to carry around a juice box-sized portable charger, or a REALLY long extension cord ;p
Depends on implementation.
They idea is only appealing to Apple, and that’s because they want to add security so that no vendor can plug into an Apple device unless they pay them a cut. They’re out of options for securing the 3.5mm audio jack.
From a practical standpoint, it would be great if everything used USB-C ports, but only if there were 3 or 4 of them on the phone! Just think about it, if you have only the one USB-C port, plugging in your headset would stop you from charging the phone. With 3 USB-C ports, you could plug in a headset, VR glasses and charge at the same time. Or you could have headset, USB storage and charging at the same time. What I’m getting at is LOTS of flexibility.
But the issue goes far beyond headset jacks. There were a several monitors announced at CES with USB-C video+docking solutions that would turn your phone into a lightweight-PC (complete with keyboard, mouse and monitor) when you plugged them in. USB-C offer a lot of future expansion flexibility.
And, when we talk about USB-C it really NEEDS to be USB-C connector for USB version 3.1. The crap that LeTV pulled with the X900 Max (i.e. USB-C connector with USB 2.0 connection) will just damage the “universalness” (i.e the U) of USB, and create weird cases where users can’t figure out why everything plugged in correctly but doesn’t work.
I’m not even a fan of USB type-C as a charging/comm port, is in most models it doesn’t bring any advantage whatsoever. Only few implement USB3.0/3.1 tranfsers with it, so why bother?
Now, replacing the classic jack with type-C for headphones is something that can easily get through in the Apple world, but will never get popular in the Android world. Unless, it becomes a next standard, that every headphone producer will follow.
lol god no, horrible position to begin with.
They idea is only appealing to Apple, and that’s because they want to add security so that no vendor can plug into an Apple device unless they pay them a cut. They’re out of options for securing the 3.5mm audio jack.
From a practical standpoint, it would be great if everything used USB-C ports, but only if there were 3 or 4 of them on the phone! Just think about it, if you have only the one USB-C port, plugging in your headset would stop you from charging the phone. With 3 USB-C ports, you could plug in a headset, VR glasses and charge at the same time. Or you could have headset, USB storage and charging at the same time. What I’m getting at is LOTS of flexibility.
But the issue goes far beyond headset jacks. There were a several monitors announced at CES with USB-C video+docking solutions that would turn your phone into a lightweight-PC (complete with keyboard, mouse and monitor) when you plugged them in. USB-C offer a lot of future expansion flexibility.
And, when we talk about USB-C it really NEEDS to be USB-C connector for USB version 3.1. The crap that LeTV pulled with the X900 Max (i.e. USB-C connector with USB 2.0 connection) will just damage the “universalness” (i.e the U) of USB, and create weird cases where users can’t figure out why everything plugged in correctly but doesn’t work.
I’m not even a fan of USB type-C as a charging/comm port, is in most models it doesn’t bring any advantage whatsoever. Only few implement USB3.0/3.1 tranfsers with it, so why bother?
Now, replacing the classic jack with type-C for headphones is something that can easily get through in the Apple world, but will never get popular in the Android world. Unless, it becomes a next standard, that every headphone producer will follow.
lol god no, horrible position to begin with.
apple is just ditching the port so they can gather millions for adapters and new gear that cost 3 times as much as the old. but hey, every apple-fanboy needs the new iphone and they all want to listen to their perfect apple music via their itunes account, so they’ll need to buy the fucking expensive lightning-headphones although they already have 3 other sets… oh and dont forget all the money they get from peripheral companies.
apple is just ditching the port so they can gather millions for adapters and new gear that cost 3 times as much as the old. but hey, every apple-fanboy needs the new iphone and they all want to listen to their perfect apple music via their itunes account, so they’ll need to buy the fucking expensive lightning-headphones although they already have 3 other sets… oh and dont forget all the money they get from peripheral companies.
3.5mm is a gold standard, you can use it everywhere. usb-c and lightnging these port wont last long, they change every few years. if timcock killed 3.5mm standard thats means one thing you need to buy headset every few years to keep up the tread
what we need is a standard, so that the earphone you bought todays can last and to be useful across every device, for example pc, psp, walkman, mp3 player, mac
it took 50 years to make the 3.5mm compatible to almost everything. it will take another 50 years for lightnging usb-c to achieve the same result. I dare to say that before these port become popular, timcock will kill it and messup everything again
3.5mm is a gold standard, you can use it everywhere. usb-c and lightnging these port wont last long, they change every few years. if timcock killed 3.5mm standard thats means one thing you need to buy headset every few years to keep up the tread
what we need is a standard, so that the earphone you bought todays can last and to be useful across every device, for example pc, psp, walkman, mp3 player, mac
it took 50 years to make the 3.5mm compatible to almost everything. it will take another 50 years for lightnging usb-c to achieve the same result. I dare to say that before these port become popular, timcock will kill it and messup everything again