Meizu users find malware built in to Flyme!


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In a developing case, Meizu fans in Italy have discovered that Meizuโ€™s Flyme OS has malware infecting certain built-in applications.

A long time Meizu fan in Italy has been doing some digging in to Flyme OS and has discovered that applications in the custom Android system are infected with malware and malicious code.

Apparently the latest beta system of Flyme has a few different viruses which have been spotted using VirusTotal. Another test from a few month back shows that similar malware was also found in a previous Flyme version.

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Meizu havenโ€™t made an official statement about the reason for the fishy looking code, but their Italian distributor claims that the results are false. Meizu fans are now looking in to the issue and it seems AVG have been approached to confirm the scan are accurate.

If the reading are accurate then why has the Flyme team purposely done this? Well perhaps this โ€˜malwareโ€™ is actually code found in only beta versions of Flyme OS which can send information back to the developers about usage, crashes, bugs etc automatically?

Whatever the reason be aware that at least the latest Flyme Beta is showing these symptoms and they could result in higher data usage, battery drain and may even be able to share your personal info with Meizuโ€™s servers.

More details and screenshots of various tests can be found on Meizufans.eu.

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408 Comments

  1. Marius Cirsta
    February 3, 2016

    If you look you’ll see that the detection rate is 4/57 in the screenshot posted. That’s usually not a very clear indication that something is really wrong with the code.
    Luckily APKs are easy to open up and decompile with things like apktool, dex2jar and then jar decompilers ( cfr, procyon ) so if anyone’s really interested they can take a look. I assume it’s in the java part of the APK, if it’s in some included native .so libs then something like IDA will be needed to take a look.

    • Dagohoy Ting
      February 15, 2016

      I will be more concern if Kaspersky is reporting something, but other av companies does false positive most of the time. Another point is it doesnt mean a virus or backdoor everytime something is detected, sometimes it just mean it has potential to harm a system . This potential is not proven 100% of the time.

      • Bob
        February 17, 2016

        It’s worry some anyway.
        Not a single AntiVirus should alarm on a system application.

        But yeah. It’s still uncertain weather it’s a security issue or not.

        • Dagohoy Ting
          February 21, 2016

          Yeah indeed. I haven’t heard any comment yet from Meizu’s side yet. I only read comments that meizu.eu is just hating thats why they comment like that. And i heard it only was detected on the flyme 5 beta versions and not on stable 4.5 old version.

          I hope meizu fix and update flyme now. Im hoping for marshmallow version of flyme coming…with full disk encryptions enabled

          • February 21, 2016

            In Flyme 5 stable too and in flyme 4.5 mzaccount is detected like an riskware. Just upload the app on VirusTotal.

          • Bob
            February 21, 2016

            I think Meizu won’t commend on it and that’s a smart move ( … but they probably just don’t care )
            The only worry was if the closed beta testers leaked a Beta, what we didn’t.

            And meanwhile AVG is still looking into the matter.

            I’m my opinion it’s likely to be no virus. But simple the fact that FlymeOS uses homemade (Chinese) frameworks for System apps… instead of Google frameworks (sevices).
            That means I don’t think it’s a virus, but part of replacing Google in China. But that’s just my thoughts, no guarantee.

  2. Roger
    February 3, 2016

    I just scanned my M2 (running the most recent firmware) with both Malwarebytes Anti-Malware and Zemana Antimalware.

    Malwarebytes detected Meizu’s Life, Game Center, and Meizu Account apps as PUP.Riskware.UPay. It’s important to note that PUP is an acronym for Potentially Unwanted Program, and that PUPs are not harmful – just apps that may be considered not useful.

    In any case, I’m sure that these apps are all safe, and do no warrant the PUP tag.

    A quick scan with Zemana found nothing.

    • balcobomber25
      February 3, 2016

      A lot of Spy/Mal ware applications will report back false positives on several apps that might be a privacy risk.

    • February 3, 2016

      Try AVG (i’m using PRO version)

      • Roger
        February 3, 2016

        There’s no need, I’m sure there’s no actual malware on my phone. If AVG detects anything, then most likely its a false positive.

        • February 3, 2016

          I have tested 18 antivirurs on flyme 5, 9 of this antovirus have founded positive.

  3. MattD
    February 3, 2016

    Ahahah the Italian distributor is the worse: ships every single phone with roms full of malware (doubling the price for the least) and obviously now he’s saying there’s no problem at all… lol!

    • #Andrea
      February 3, 2016

      They sell the phone with official I firmware. I think you are confused bro

    • balcobomber25
      February 3, 2016

      Are you sure you are not buying from a reseller claiming to be a Meizu distributor?

  4. #Andrea
    February 3, 2016

    What a shitty post for your blog, Andi. 4/57 positive result. We all know Meizu, and you tested their products, and now you share the “post” of some random kids (like the staff on Meizumart) that got burned because the company dumped them (like they wrote in the blog). Just click bait, right? Shame on you.

    • February 3, 2016

      Oh bless… It’s nice you took the time to read the post carefully….

      “If the reading are accurate then why has the Flyme team purposely done this? Well perhaps this โ€˜malwareโ€™ is actually code found in only beta versions of Flyme OS which can send information back to the developers about usage, crashes, bugs etc automatically?”

      • balcobomber25
        February 3, 2016

        Haha! Looks like he just read the title and skipped the article.

        • Dirk
          February 3, 2016

          Wel, lots of people only read the titles. They should not lies , or things that are far from proven.

      • #Andrea
        February 3, 2016

        “have discovered that Meizuโ€™s Flyme OS has malware infecting certain built-in applications”. That’s a statement. There is no doubt on this sentence. But that’s just not true!

        • February 4, 2016

          Not true? Who are you for say this? When AVG team say: “Is false positive! Is all ok!”. You can say it. For now are positive. Working on Meizu?

    • February 4, 2016

      Seriously, before you should write stuff like this, you should take a proper look at Meizufans.

      It wasn’t Meizu who dumped us, but we dumped Meizu, because of the false game they played towards their overseas customers.
      Additionally you should consider that nothing is wrong with an “aggressive” article as it raises a very basic question:

      “Where goes our data and what is Meizu doing with it?”

      If you feel comfortable sending data without knowing it, as
      seen with MIUI, you have my respect, but others might not like this and
      want a proper explenation for these (yet unconfirmed) “false
      positives”. Especially in the context of a fully digitally driven world, we should be more concerned about our data and should have the braveness to question certain practices.

      Greetings,

      The random kids from Meizufans.

      • Nicola
        February 5, 2016

        Meizufans STOP THE HATE; you’re staff is composed by a group of a seventeen dutch people; you don’t say anythig of Meizu,
        You’re just jealous because you aren’t become the reference site for meizu so you create only hater post to discriminate Meizu Company.

        • February 5, 2016

          Sorry, but obviously you still don’t seem to understand anything.

          Actually Meizu hired the former Co-Founder of Meizufans, which still works for them nowdays.

          The site is now under German lead and no longer owned by a private person.

          Furthermore we were an official Meizu forum, but dropped the partnership due to Meizu’s missbehaviour towards their community.
          How would you like it for instance, if you have no more warranty, if you bought the device from China or just lose all languages in favor of one distributor?

          The only hate and discrimination here is your comment, filled with nonsense and untenable facts, just like grammar and spelling mistakes.

          And besides that, why should we praise Meizu, if they do mistakes? Isn’t it the job of journalism to put a critical viewpoint on things and question them?

    • February 4, 2016

      9 antivirus su 18 hanno rilevato positivi. Fai meno il simpatico.

  5. Marius Cirsta
    February 3, 2016

    If you look you’ll see that the detection rate is 4/57 in the screenshot posted. That’s usually not a very clear indication that something is really wrong with the code.
    Luckily APKs are easy to open up and decompile with things like apktool, dex2jar and then jar decompilers ( cfr, procyon ) so if anyone’s really interested they can take a look. I assume it’s in the java part of the APK, if it’s in some included native .so libs then something like IDA will be needed to take a look.

    • Dagohoy Ting
      February 15, 2016

      I will be more concern if Kaspersky is reporting something, but other av companies does false positive most of the time. Another point is it doesnt mean a virus or backdoor everytime something is detected, sometimes it just mean it has potential to harm a system . This potential is not proven 100% of the time.

    • Bob
      February 17, 2016

      It’s worry some anyway.
      Not a single AntiVirus should alarm on a system application.

      But yeah. It’s still uncertain weather it’s a security issue or not.

    • Dagohoy Ting
      February 21, 2016

      Yeah indeed. I haven’t heard any comment yet from Meizu’s side yet. I only read comments that meizu.eu is just hating thats why they comment like that. And i heard it only was detected on the flyme 5 beta versions and not on stable 4.5 old version.

      I hope meizu fix and update flyme now. Im hoping for marshmallow version of flyme coming…with full disk encryptions enabled

    • Francesco :)
      February 21, 2016

      In Flyme 5 stable too and in flyme 4.5 mzaccount is detected like an riskware. Just upload the app on VirusTotal.

    • Bob
      February 21, 2016

      I think Meizu won’t commend on it and that’s a smart move ( … but they probably just don’t care )
      The only worry was if the closed beta testers leaked a Beta, what we didn’t.

      And meanwhile AVG is still looking into the matter.

      I’m my opinion it’s likely to be no virus. But simple the fact that FlymeOS uses homemade (Chinese) frameworks for System apps… instead of Google frameworks (sevices).
      That means I don’t think it’s a virus, but part of replacing Google in China. But that’s just my thoughts, no guarantee.

  6. Roger
    February 3, 2016

    I just scanned my M2 (running the most recent firmware) with both Malwarebytes Anti-Malware and Zemana Antimalware.

    Malwarebytes detected Meizu’s Life, Game Center, and Meizu Account apps as PUP.Riskware.UPay. It’s important to note that PUP is an acronym for Potentially Unwanted Program, and that PUPs are not harmful – just apps that may be considered not useful.

    In any case, I’m sure that these apps are all safe, and do no warrant the PUP tag.

    A quick scan with Zemana found nothing.

    • balcobomber25
      February 3, 2016

      A lot of Spy/Mal ware applications will report back false positives on several apps that might be a privacy risk.

    • Francesco :)
      February 3, 2016

      Try AVG (i’m using PRO version)

    • Francesco :)
      February 3, 2016

      I have tested 18 antivirurs on flyme 5, 9 of this antovirus have founded positive.

    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016

      I have no skills to talk about it, and if are false positives or not. For this i have aked at AVG team an clarification. If are false positive for me is good ๐Ÿ™‚

  7. balcobomber25
    February 3, 2016

    I am currently running a deep scan on Flyme after reading this. I am using a program we use internally here at Microsoft that can find virtually anything. I’ll report back on the results.

    • February 3, 2016

      Flyme 5? or 4?

      • balcobomber25
        February 3, 2016

        Flyme 5.1.2

    • The Special Juan
      February 3, 2016

      what flavour? chocolate with sprinkles? glazed? jelly? ๐Ÿ™‚ Thanks for all the info (about the scan AND the doughnut)

      • balcobomber25
        February 3, 2016

        I had two one was a plain chocolate frosted, I give it a 7/10. The other was a croissant donut with fudge, easily a 9/10.

        • MaxPower
          February 4, 2016

          Omg I tried the croissant fudge the other day, that was insane!

          • balcobomber25
            February 4, 2016

            I am guessing you had the Dunkin Donuts version? Those are good, the ones we had were from a local bakery and they were amazing. But like my niece always says “Even a bad donut is still better broccoli”

            • MaxPower
              February 4, 2016

              Yeah, I tried the DD one and was delicious. I can only imagine how the artisan one from the bakery could be.

      • Jim Shortz
        February 4, 2016

        That was exactly my question. Thanks for asking

    • jimberkas
      February 3, 2016

      nice, i clicked on the article soley to see what balco would say about this.

    • trapchan
      February 4, 2016

      do you have letv phone to tests too??

      • balcobomber25
        February 4, 2016

        Nope but we tested Meizu, Xiaomi and Elephone (a coworker uses them). All 3 came back safe. I was actually surprised by the Elephone.

        • February 4, 2016

          Can you explane all better? Why antivirus recognize it like a positive? Thanks for your investigation ๐Ÿ™‚

          • balcobomber25
            February 4, 2016

            Because of the permissions the particular app has enabled. Some of those permissions could lead to a security risk like reading your contacts, finding location or changing settings on your phone. A lot of Malware/Anti-virus software will detect these permissions as a potential security risk. It doesnt always mean the app itself is malware, it means it has the potential to pose a security risk. You should always look at all your apps and see what permissions they have. For instance Google Maps should have access to your location, a calculator app probably should not and if it is asking for that it could be something fishy.

            • February 4, 2016

              Yes but aren’t recognized like a false positive? mmmm xD

            • balcobomber25
              February 4, 2016

              What do you mean?

            • February 4, 2016

              This is correct “You should always look at all your apps and see what permissions they have.” But why others apps aren’t recognized a positive and this yes? Why this app have this high permissions?

            • balcobomber25
              February 4, 2016

              All depends on the app and where it is from. Apps you get from the playstore are already excluded in the malware software, they know they are safe because Google is very good about removing harmful apps as soon as they are discovered. System apps usually have full permissions enabled whether they need them or not, for instance Meizu Web Browser has 35 permissions, Chrome Beta (my preferred browser) has 25.

            • February 4, 2016

              Ok i got you. I await verification of AVG and i hope, it is really as you say ๐Ÿ™‚

  8. MattD
    February 3, 2016

    Ahahah the Italian distributor is the worse: ships every single phone with roms full of malware (doubling the price for the least) and obviously now he’s saying there’s no problem at all… lol!

    • #Andrea
      February 3, 2016

      They sell the phone with official I firmware. I think you are confused bro

    • balcobomber25
      February 3, 2016

      Are you sure you are not buying from a reseller claiming to be a Meizu distributor?

  9. #Andrea
    February 3, 2016

    What a shitty post for your blog, Andi. 4/57 positive result. We all know Meizu, and you tested their products, and now you share the “post” of some random kids (like the staff on Meizfans) that got burned because the company dumped them (like they wrote in the blog). Just click bait, right? Shame on you.

    • Andi Sykes
      February 3, 2016

      Oh bless… It’s nice you took the time to read the post carefully….

      “If the reading are accurate then why has the Flyme team purposely done this? Well perhaps this โ€˜malwareโ€™ is actually code found in only beta versions of Flyme OS which can send information back to the developers about usage, crashes, bugs etc automatically?”

    • balcobomber25
      February 3, 2016

      Haha! Looks like he just read the title and skipped the article.

    • #Andrea
      February 3, 2016

      “have discovered that Meizuโ€™s Flyme OS has malware infecting certain built-in applications”. That’s a statement. There is no doubt on this sentence. But that’s just not true!

    • Guest
      February 3, 2016

      Wel, lots of people only read the titles. They should not lies , or things that are far from proven.

    • Meizufans
      February 4, 2016

      Seriously, before you should write stuff like this, you should take a proper look at Meizufans.

      It wasn’t Meizu who dumped us, but we dumped Meizu, because of the false game they played towards their overseas customers.
      Additionally you should consider that nothing is wrong with an “aggressive” article as it raises a very basic question:

      “Where goes our data and what is Meizu doing with it?”

      If you feel comfortable sending data without knowing it, as
      seen with MIUI, you have my respect, but others might not like this and
      want a proper explenation for these (yet unconfirmed) “false
      positives”. Especially in the context of a fully digitally driven world, we should be more concerned about our data and should have the braveness to question certain – for us unclear – practices.
      Because if there would be everything right with the firmware, as it is with the Global ones, why AVG would report potential spyware?

      Greetings,

      The random kids from Meizufans.

    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016

      9 antivirus su 18 hanno rilevato positivi.

    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016

      Not true? Who are you for say this? When AVG team say: “Is false positive! Is all ok!”. You can say it. For now are positive. Working on Meizu?

    • Nicola
      February 5, 2016

      Meizufans STOP THE HATE; you’re staff is composed by a group of a seventeen dutch people; you don’t say anythig of Meizu,
      You’re just jealous because you aren’t become the reference site for meizu so you create only hater post to discriminate Meizu Company.

    • Meizufans
      February 5, 2016

      Sorry, but obviously you still don’t seem to understand anything.

      Actually Meizu hired the former Co-Founder of Meizufans, which still works for them nowdays.

      The site is now under German lead and no longer owned by a private person.

      Furthermore we were an official Meizu forum, but dropped the partnership due to Meizu’s missbehaviour towards their community.
      How would you like it for instance, if you have no more warranty, if you bought the device from China or just lose all languages in favor of one distributor?

      The only hate and discrimination here is your comment, filled with nonsense and untenable facts, just like grammar and spelling mistakes.

      And besides that, why should we praise Meizu, if they do mistakes? Isn’t it the job of journalism to put a critical viewpoint on things and question them?

  10. erictheking87
    February 3, 2016

    PRO 5 MINIIIII!!! I want MINIIIII!!!! Seriously I had such high hopes for Pro 5 in 4.7″ or even 5″ size…

    • balcobomber25
      February 3, 2016

      I wouldn’t hold my breath on that. Meizu hasn’t made an MX phone smaller than 5 inches since the MX2 (4.4 inches). So far the Pro Series has only increased in screen size with a new model year. Meizu’s biggest market is the Chinese market where big phones are in much larger demand than smaller ones.

  11. February 3, 2016

    I have tested 18 Antivirus on Flyme 5 beta for MX4. 9 of 18 detect different risk.

    • balcobomber25
      February 3, 2016

      Those are false positives.

      • February 4, 2016

        How can be false positive if flyme is vulnerable for stagefright? If they don’t work good for developing a safe software, how i can believe is a false positive?

        • balcobomber25
          February 4, 2016

          Flyme 5.1 is not vulnerable to Stagefright.

          • February 4, 2016

            Sorry sir, but is vulnerable.

            • balcobomber25
              February 4, 2016

              If you are using CM12.1 why are you talking about Flyme?

            • February 4, 2016

              .-. Making a comparation?

            • balcobomber25
              February 4, 2016

              But how are you saying Flyme is still vulnerable if you don;t use it?

            • February 4, 2016

              .-.

            • balcobomber25
              February 4, 2016

              That’s why your using the beta ROM. In the stable international ROM it is fixed.

            • February 4, 2016

              Yes but people whit MX4 and who have tested it or are using it? No fix for them?

            • Roger
              February 5, 2016

              My M4 with Flyme 4.5 failed 4 of the tests.

            • February 5, 2016
            • Roger
              February 5, 2016

              No, I’m not too worried about it. I trust Meizu.

              I dont think there are test for the backdoor.

            • February 5, 2016

              You can do what you want. Reality in another.

            • February 4, 2016

              This version is publicized on the official Meizu forum Italian. So it is considered usable

            • balcobomber25
              February 4, 2016

              A beta ROM is usable but it’s also an experimental ROM and some things might not work right. People who are concerned should always use the current stable ROM, where it is fixed.

            • February 6, 2016

              And again ia an Stable. Not an Beta.

            • balcobomber25
              February 6, 2016

              You shows a screen shot of a Beta rom….

            • February 6, 2016

              I’m so sorry but is an A stable ๐Ÿ˜‰

            • balcobomber25
              February 6, 2016

              This clearly says Beta….

            • February 6, 2016

              Man is the same, same positive XD ahahahahah what you don’t understand?

            • February 6, 2016

              Is the same: Same positive!
              Ok i’m full, i want contact Microsft. I need to say if this “project” of an antivirus for the companies is reality or only an fake. Is better if you say now is a fake only for justifying it in favor of Meizu.

            • balcobomber25
              February 6, 2016

              Good luck with that. I’m sure Microsoft will gladly share company secrets with some kid from a forum. Of course the person you called would be me or someone working for me.

            • February 6, 2016

              In this case: good luck to you, and thx for “share some company secrets with some kids in an forum” .

            • balcobomber25
              February 6, 2016

              I didn’t share anything of value, kid. But Goodluck with that phone call i look forward to hearing my secretary laugh as she hangs up.

            • February 6, 2016

              You have shared secret plan of one the big company of the world. They easily find you. Or is only a big fake for justifyng Meizu? Don’t be scared.

            • balcobomber25
              February 6, 2016

              Whatever you kiddo.

            • February 6, 2016

              You think that, let’s see what Microsoft thinks of what you said. Or you are only a fake? ๐Ÿ™‚

            • balcobomber25
              February 6, 2016

              Whatever you say Franny.

            • Marco Lorenzo
              February 16, 2016

              You tried to make it out like you are some big exec at MS, and yet you post your phone’s IMEI number for all the world to see? Good one. In case you go back and erase your previous message, here it is again ๐Ÿ™‚

            • balcobomber25
              February 16, 2016

              I said I am big an executive? Lol nice try, I said I work for MS. I could care less if you have IMEI numbers. I change my phones so often it really doesn’t make a difference.

            • February 16, 2016

              You can’t change IMEI on MX5…

            • balcobomber25
              February 17, 2016

              Where did I say you could? You love to just make stuff up and pretend that I said that, it’s quite funny actually. I could care less if my IMEI is out there, I change my phones out every 6 months and I use prepaid cell service.

            • February 17, 2016

              Bad translation ๐Ÿ™‚

            • balcobomber25
              February 16, 2016

              Enjoy your trolling though, it is quite funny that you seem so enamored with my comments. You can happily come visit me anytime at the Microsoft Offices in Massachusetts.

            • Marco Lorenzo
              February 16, 2016

              Do Microsoft employees always capitalise the “O” when they are referring to the office that they work in like they are talking about the Office software? Hehe funny.

            • balcobomber25
              February 16, 2016

              Do trolls really spend this much time breaking down comments on disqus? Yes, yes they do.

            • Marco Lorenzo
              February 16, 2016

              Troll this, troll that. Is that the only argument you can come up with? Calling people trolls? How’s that working out for you?

            • balcobomber25
              February 16, 2016

              Working out great for me i have a bug free meizu that i got for free by being a respected member of this site. How’s it working for you?

            • Marco Lorenzo
              February 16, 2016

              “respected” haha you sure do live in your own little world. But if it’s making you happy then by all means, enjoy yourself ๐Ÿ™‚

            • balcobomber25
              February 16, 2016

              Members of Gizchina voted who should get a free phone, i won by a landslide. Respected.

            • Marco Lorenzo
              February 16, 2016

              That’s awesome man, you should be proud of that achievement ๐Ÿ™‚

            • balcobomber25
              February 16, 2016

              I’m proud of my free phone. I’m also proud that you’re so obsessed with me. It’s the ultimate form of flattery. Anyways this conversation has run its course. I’ll be at the Microsoft booth for MWC, stop by if you’re that curious of who i am.

            • Marco Lorenzo
              February 16, 2016

              Yes, I’m so obsessed with you, just like how you keep replying even though you said this conversation is over. You make me so happy. By the way, you keep daring me to look you up. As a matter of fact, I will be there as well, why don’t you tell me your name?

            • Marco Lorenzo
              February 16, 2016

              I wonder how big this Microsoft is if when one of their billions of customers call them up, they’d most likely reach you lol

            • balcobomber25
              February 16, 2016

              You call my office you’ll talk to me, i know that fact blows your mind.

            • Marco Lorenzo
              February 16, 2016

              Did he say he’ll call your office? I don’t think so, he simply said he’ll call Microsoft. Or are you that self centered?

            • balcobomber25
              February 16, 2016

              If he called asking about our antivirus software for mobile, assuming he actually got through, he would be redirected to someone in my department. Are you that moronic you don’t know that every business is made up of different departments?

            • Marco Lorenzo
              February 16, 2016

              He simply said he wanted to call Microsoft to ask if they have a project like that going on. They wouldn’t need to refer him to your department just to see if your department exists. But of course, you would know that if you actually worked in my company.

            • balcobomber25
              February 16, 2016

              And a call center employee would have no clue and would transfer him to the correct department, (mine) or hang up on him. You would know that if you worked for any large companies.

            • Marco Lorenzo
              February 16, 2016

              A call center employee wouldn’t transfer a customer directly to the team involved in a project or even their secretary if they had one. Care to make up more crap?

            • balcobomber25
              February 17, 2016

              It depends who the caller is. That is why I said or hang up, but I know you don’t like to read full comments, you just like to take one part and run with it.

              What’s your deal anyways? You a diehard Meizu fanboy? Why do you care so much about my comments?

            • Marco Lorenzo
              February 17, 2016

              And here you are again! Welcome back ๐Ÿ˜€
              Okay, so why would they hang up when they can easily ask someone like their cubicle buddy or supervisor? Or is your department so top secret? If a call centre employee doesn’t know something, do you seriously think they’d just hang up on the customer? It’s clear you don’t work at Microsoft but do you have a job at all? Keep digging that hole buddy.
              Also, why would I be a Meizu fanboy? If I was, I’d be supporting you since you said the malware were false positives. But yeah, I can see how your shotgun approach might work for you sometimes. Just keep calling me whatever you want, as long as you can convince yourself lol

            • February 6, 2016

              This is an stable ROM. Not an Beta.

            • February 4, 2016

              On Flyme 5, now.

            • balcobomber25
              February 4, 2016

              Which ROM are you running? I am running 5.1.2.0A and it is not vulnerable.

            • February 4, 2016

              But the point is? Why i have asked to clarify this positive? It is not my problem if others users have founded some positive in them Meizu phones and now they ask to clarify this.

            • #Andrea
              February 5, 2016

              WTF CM? You are using CM and blaming the Flyme………. what a dumb

            • February 5, 2016

              Blaming? Fanboy go home.

          • Bob
            February 4, 2016

            It was vulnerable until recently. I reported this issue last October!
            And it wasn’t fixed before the end of December

            • balcobomber25
              February 4, 2016

              Which means…..

              It is not vulnerable now.

            • Bob
              February 5, 2016

              Dude, I’m confused now, first I thought you were a fanboy.

              But now you argue against Meizu.

              The stagefright on Meizu is a big problem! The Mx5 is fixed now, yes that’s right.

              But the majority of global Meizu devices are still vulnerable to this well know issue!

              Meizu failed to provide a very needed hotfix! Up to now! It’s still not fixed for the majority of Meizu phones!

              What you are pointing out, just backs up the article. You just point out that Meizu does not take our security concern serious enough.

              As said before, I don’t think that this is true.

              So my suggestion is to think before you post. Spamming useless information, that has no solid base, does no good. Neither for you, nor for Meizu.

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              I am only a fanboy of one company, Xiaomi and i fully admit that. As for Meizu there software that I have used is completely clean of any viruses, I have done actual lab tests to back that up.

              What I pointed out is that Meizu took it serious enough to fix it in Flyme 5.1 which is available for most of their devices. Stagefright was first publicly announced in July of 215. Flyme 5.1 was released in Novemeber, it took Meizu 3 months to fix it. Over 1 billion devices in the world are still affected by that. A company Meziu’s size fixing it in 3 months shows how hard they work on their software.

              The only one “spamming useless infomration” is yourself. You have offered up nothing of value to this conversation.

            • February 5, 2016

              3 months for fix some libs? xD

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              Considering much larger companies than Meizu still haven’t fixed it, I would say 3 months is very good for a company their size.

            • Bob
              February 5, 2016

              We do not talk about other companies in this topic. Scroll up and read the title again.

              This is about Meizu and problems related to Meizu.

              Pointing a finger and saying: But the others do… is just useless.

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              You must be new to this site, we always compare what one company does to what the rest of the industry does. But good luck in this personal vendetta of yours to be correct. let me know how that works out for you.

            • Bob
              February 5, 2016

              Lol no. I just don’t like useless excuse.

              I am just a problem solving oriented person.
              And pointing fingers, does not solve problems. It’s just a lame excuse, to do nothing.

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              No one pointed fingers. My entire comments have been about one phone and one version software. You are the one who is pointing to other phones and other versions. Now I am done with this conversation because it is going nowhere.

            • February 5, 2016

              Vendetta? I’m an Meizu user! And i want buy Meizu product! WTF go wrong with your thinking ?

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              Ahh so you and Bob are the same person because that comment was for him. Looks like someone is exposed….

            • Bob
              February 5, 2016

              If you put in some effort, you will have no problem to figure out who I am.

              I use the same account picture on every forum, that’s related to Meizu, MIUI or china-devices.

              but the problem here is, you don’t do your research.

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              The problem is you can’t read.

            • Bob
              February 5, 2016

              then explain yourself better.

              pointing finger gets us nowhere, we already discussed this.

              I will write it once again: Pointing fingers is not a solution for any kind of problem. It’s just an excuse.

              So please do better than this.

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              Nope you need to learn to read AND comprehend better. Anyways best of luck with your ROM this conversation is going nowhere.

            • Bob
              February 5, 2016

              It goes nowhere because you do nothing.

              Summarize what was “wrongly understood”, pretty please. If you are able to do that.

              I will do the same now:
              -It’s uncertain if FlymeOS is full of spyware or not. FACT for now
              -The majority of global Meizu devices are vulnerable to Stagefright. FACT for now.

              So, now is your turn.

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              it goes nowhere because you can’t read or comprehend.

              – I reported based on my tests for MY device. FACT.
              – As for Stagefright I was only talking about Flyme 5.1.0.2 and stated that numerous times. FACT
              – When Francesco said he was using the Beta ROM, I said it IS still vulnerable in the Beta. FACT
              – I never once mentioned any phone other than the MX5. FACT.

              My turn is done, this conversation is done. This will by my last reply. Goodluck in your never ending quest to be the smartest guy in the room.

            • Bob
              February 5, 2016

              Okay, so be it, so then I can do one last summary.

              Nobody ever questioned, if your phone is vulnerable to stagefright or not.
              This article is about the Global / Chinese Beta Firmware, so clearly not about 5.1.2.0G

              Uh… and you never actually explained your tests, neither did you state a source for your “those are false positives”.

              So all you say is a lot of bullshit. The next time you post, back it up.

              Provide your source. And provide detailed information on how you verified that your phone is clean. (Of course you will have to use the same firmware as described in this topic.)

              It’s not about being the smartest person in the room. That’s not my indention or believe to be that person.

              But when I read a guy spamming bullshit, without backup, it’s hard to resists.

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              The only one who continues to spam bullshit is you.

            • Bob
              February 5, 2016

              Report back when you have a Source or your statement “False positives”.

              And report back with a detailed description of how you tested it on your phone. Youtube videos like Francesco made are welcome.

              Until then it stays bullshit, what you say.

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              Whatever you say. I have nothing to prove to you and really could care less what you think. You are not as important as you seem to think you are. Everything you say to me is bullshit from someone who seems to have an inferiority complex to the highest degree.

            • Bob
              February 6, 2016

              I just tested it. The firmware 5.1.2.0G and 5.1.3.0G for the MX5 have the same problem.

              If you call someone this, after he asks you to prove your statements… then so be it.

              It certainly is a convenient excuse. Meanwhile all firmware versions since 5.1.2.0G are affected by the problem described in this article.

            • balcobomber25
              February 6, 2016

              Except for the A roms which is the one I tested….

            • Bob
              February 6, 2016

              A roms were tested too. No worry about this. They also have this issue.

              Every Rom after 5.1.2.0 has this problem. A or G makes no difference.

              I described previoiusly how you can prove your statement. Pleas do so.

              Get AZ Screen Recorder.

              Open the Updater App to prove your FlymeOS Version. Open The Video App to prove it’s there. Do it on an un-rooted device.
              And run AVG AntiVirus.

            • balcobomber25
              February 6, 2016

              If you can explain why i get different results please do. I’m not saying you’re wrong or I am right. I’m just saying i don’t get that result.

              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/91be90199004da16b22c43b6f57245f0f12f29f499bee556bedff1feba0b74c9.jpg
              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e650c8c0d983fff3bb38666649f338b85f74d57aacfefc8a18830ea5e192fb0b.jpg

            • Bob
              February 6, 2016

              Show your Ignore list and make a video

            • Bob
              February 6, 2016

              Update: I will be more precise. Just to be sure you do it right.

              Use: AZ Screen Recorder to make a Video.

              Go to Settings and Show the Version of the Video App

              Open The Upgrade App to Prove your FlymeOS Version

              Open The Video App

              Open AVG AntiVirus

              Show that the ingore list in AVG Antivirus is empty

              Make a anti virus search

              upload the created video

              And once again. Every FlymeOS firmware is affected starting with 5.1.2.0 (A or G, makes no difference)

            • Bob
              February 6, 2016

              Update: I will be more precise. Just to be sure you do it right.

              Use: AZ Screen Recorder to make a Video.
              Go to Settings and Show the Version of the Video App
              Open The Upgrade App to Prove your FlymeOS Version
              Open The Video App
              Open AVG AntiVirus
              Show that the ingore list in AVG Antivirus is empty
              Make a anti virus search

              upload the created video

              And once again. Every FlymeOS firmware is affected starting with 5.1.2.0 (A or G, makes no difference)

            • Bob
              February 6, 2016

              All are affected A or G makes no difference.

            • Bob
              February 6, 2016

              Alright.

              I have tried it on 5.1.2.0 A and 5.1.2.0G up to the latest firmware 5.1.3.0G. All of those have the same problem. the video.apk may be infected.

              If your way is to insult people instead of finally proving your point, then so be it.

              There is no help for you.

            • balcobomber25
              February 6, 2016

              That’s funny because I tried it on 5.1.2.0A and 5.1.3.0A and neither are infected with stagefright and using AVG, Panda, Kapersky, CM and Norton all come back clean.

            • Bob
              February 6, 2016

              please use AZ Screen Recorder and make a video of this.
              All you need is AVG Anti Virus.

              And btw, it’s impossible that you find nothing. Quite a lot of people confirmed this issue with fimrmwares above 5.1.2.0.

              Anyway, a video created by AZ Screen Recorder is no problem at all. It’s super simple and fast.

              When you do it, open the upgrade app to prove that you use the described firmware and do it on a un-rooted device.

            • Bob
              February 6, 2016

              Update: I will be more precise. Just to be sure you do it right.

              Use: AZ Screen Recorder to make a Video.

              Go to Settings and Show the Version of the Video App

              Open The Upgrade App to Prove your FlymeOS Version

              Open The Video App

              Open AVG AntiVirus

              Show that the ingore list in AVG Antivirus is empty

              Make a anti virus search

              upload the created video

              And once again. Every FlymeOS firmware is affected starting with 5.1.2.0 (A or G, makes no difference)

              Thanks for finally proving your point. I am looking forward to this.

            • balcobomber25
              February 6, 2016

              I dont have time for that and this conversation has run it’s course. Best of luck with you ROM.

            • Bob
              February 6, 2016

              Haha, you don’t have time. Right.

              But You have all day to discuss. All you did in AVG was add it to the ignore list.

              Now please do as I said:

              Update: I will be more precise. Just to be sure you do it right.

              Use: AZ Screen Recorder to make a Video.

              Go to Settings and Show the Version of the Video App

              Open The Upgrade App to Prove your FlymeOS Version

              Open The Video App

              Open AVG AntiVirus

              Show that the ingore list in AVG Antivirus is empty

              Make a anti virus search

              upload the created video

              And once again. Every FlymeOS firmware is affected starting with 5.1.2.0 (A or G, makes no difference)

            • balcobomber25
              February 6, 2016

              Whatever you say, I have nothing to prove to you. I have no reason to lie, I have no affiliation, affection or allegiance to Meizu. I have better things to do than get into a pissing contest with you. This will be my final comment. best of luck to you.

            • Bob
              February 6, 2016

              I can’t copy it… so I have to repeat it.

              Well Well you don’t have time to show that the Video App is on your phone. And neither do you have time to show that there is nothing in the AVG ignore list.

              But you do have time to discuss all day. I tell you what. You just lie and got busted. ๐Ÿ˜›

              Anyway. Now instead of arguing, find the five minutes it takes. to make the Video

              in that video using AZ Screen Recorder, show that you have the Video App, show the version of the video app from the flyme settings. Show that there is nothing in the AVG Ignore list, and show your Upgrade App screen to prove the Flyme OS version.

              As said before, more than just I tested this and the Video App in Version 5.3.1 is the problem. It’s not related to the FlymeOS, but simply to the Video App

            • balcobomber25
              February 6, 2016

              You seem to think you are a lot more important than you actually are. Maybe on your Meizu forums you are a big deal, but around here you are just another poster. I could care less what you think or say. If you think I am lying and that makes you feel better go right ahead and think that. Like I said I have no reason to lie, I am a Xiaomi fanboy not a Meizu fanboy, anyone around here could tell you that. But again whatever you need to make you feel like the smartest person in the room, it doesn’t matter to me.

            • Bob
              February 6, 2016

              You don’t know me. So how would you know this.
              But what you do is desperate flaming. You fail to provide proof, you can’t make the requested clip, as this will prove me right.

              So you flame me instead. Very adult behavior

            • balcobomber25
              February 6, 2016

              Whatever you say Bobby.

            • February 5, 2016

              Nope, we aren’t the same person, but in this case much people here consider us “haters”. I have only asked to clarify the positive at AVG and Meizu.

            • Bob
              February 5, 2016

              I will summarize it for you, maybe then you understand it better.

              Your first argument: This article is not true.
              We responded: How do you know? What is your source
              Further response: nothing. Source still missing

              Your next argument: FlymeOS is not vulnerable to Stagefright
              We respond: The majority of global devices are still vulnerable, and prove that point.
              Further response: you start to call it a vendetta.

              Trololol, you are either funny or stupid. I can’t decide.

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              Where did I say it wasn;t true? I said I ran tests on MY Phone and didn’t find anything. No where did I say it wasn’t true for other users. Point out where I said it wasn;t true.

              You really can’t read and comprehend. That critical skill of life escapes you.

            • Bob
              February 5, 2016

              I will quote it for you.

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              That has nothing to do with stagefright it has to do with the Meizu apps.

            • Bob
              February 5, 2016

              Aha.

              And nobody ever questioned that the Mx5 isn’t vulnerable to Stagefright either. One of the first posts of me stated that it’s fixed. It was fixed late but it’s fixed.

              Seriously…

              This is about your statement (I can quote it, if need be):
              “Meizu took 3 months to fix it.”

              What’s not true, most Meizu global / international devices, are still vulnerable to Stagefright.

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              And that is based on my tests. Again if you have done detailed tests that show they are malware please share them.

            • Bob
              February 5, 2016

              I can not share it! As I am a closed beta tester. If I find something it goes directly to Meizu, and they will fix it.

              But at the same time, I am sure that Francesco will share the outcome. As soon as AVG is finished investigating.

            • Marco Lorenzo
              February 16, 2016

              So, first you say the article is wrong because they were only false positives and you can confirm this because you did your test in a “Microsoft lab using one of the most in depth detection software ever created”, now you say that it’s only true for YOUR phone since that’s where you ran your tests. Smells to me like someone’s pants are on fire. I want to believe that Meizu is innocent in all this since I am really looking forward to getting a Pro 5 but until I see some actual proof that there is nothing suspicious going on, I will be holding it off.

            • balcobomber25
              February 16, 2016

              I said based on my tests I didn’t find any of this, I can’t report what someone else finds on their phones. Once the phone leaves the manufacturer it is not longer the same as any other phone out there. Everyone uses different apps, visits different websites and uses different ROM’s all which bring their own security risks. Based on tests I did on my MX5 there is no malware or viruses on it.

            • Marco Lorenzo
              February 16, 2016

              So then how can you claim that the article is reporting false positives? How do you know how the phone in the article is configured? Like you said, you can only say what it’s like on your phone but your original comment was an all-encompassing one.

            • balcobomber25
              February 16, 2016

              You’re just looking for a fight, this convo is over. Best of luck to you.

            • Marco Lorenzo
              February 16, 2016

              Oh so when I respond with logic, you run away? What a shame. I was looking forward to reading what other crap you would make up.

            • balcobomber25
              February 16, 2016

              It’s pointless to continue this conversation you’re just looking for a fight. If you think i make everything up there’s no reason for us to talk.

            • Marco Lorenzo
              February 16, 2016

              But I think I made a valid point before, a point that you still haven’t refuted. Have you considered becoming a politician? Might be right up your alley.

            • February 17, 2016

              Hey pro look this: https://youtu.be/HgO61xHTuDI

            • February 5, 2016

              Only 2 Smartphone fixed on 10. Yes is good.

            • Bob
              February 5, 2016

              Aha. So you say that Francesco and I are lying… Good to know.

              He tried it on the latest Chinese Beta and I tried it (and reported) it for the latest Global Flyme 5 beta.

              I have found the same issue in the global firmware and reported it to Meizu.

              The handling Meizu employee was shocked by the find, and gave it high priority. I am sure that the issue resolves in no time.

              Yes there are a lot of Stagefright affected devices, but today we talk about Meizu. And the global devices, the big majority of em are not save! Only the Meizu MX5 and Pro 5 have the update. All other devices, are left outside. That includes the widely spread Meizu M1 Note, M2 Note and Meizu M2. Those last 3 devices are much more popular in India and Europe.

              But for the moment it’s 50:50, either there is spyware on FlymeOS or there is not.

              Nobody can tell more until more information is provided.

              Francesco who found this issue, is in contact with AVG. He will know as soon as AVG confirms it as a false-positive or confirms it as a actual true-positive.

              Until then, nobody knows a thing. All we know that the Flyme 5 Global Closed Beta and Flyme 5 public Chinese Beta are affected. And users may be at danger, or may not be. Time will show

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              All I said is you can’t read which is evident by your posts. If you could read you would see that I told Francheso it was still vulnerable in the Chinese Beta and Meizu admits to it and warns people to use the beta in their own risk. And I said that the international rom it is fixed. Reading is a wonderful thing, you should try it sometime.

            • Bob
              February 5, 2016

              I am only talking about global devices.

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              Again learn to read. “In Flyme 5.1.2.0.A it is fixed”. That is all I ever said, you went off on a tangent thinking I said it is fixed in all devices. And Flyme 5.1.3 is set to drop this month, we will see if it is fixed in those devices.

            • Bob
              February 5, 2016

              Okay. You seem to miss some information.

              The global / international firmware Flyme 5.1.x is only out for the meizu MX5 and Meizu Pro 5.

              The most used global / international phones are, with firmawre.

              Meizu M1 Note, last firmware: 4.5.x I
              Meizu M2 Note, last firmware: 4.5.x I
              Meizu M2, last firmware: 4.5.x I
              Meizu MX4, last firmware: 4.5.x I
              Meizu MX4 Pro, last firmware: 4.5.x I

              Until the majority. That means more than just the Meizu Pro 5 and Mx5 have the update… Until then, FlymeOS and Meizu devices are vulnerable to stagefright

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              Again learn to read, it is a wonderful thing. I never mentioned majority, I never mentioned other models. You are now just having an argument with yourself. My entire comment and posts pertain to the Meizu Mx5. This entire article was talking about the Meizu Mx5. But again good luck with your vendetta. its hilarious to read your complete lack of reading comprehension now.

            • Bob
              February 5, 2016

              This article is about the MX4, to be honest.

              Francesco, the guy who found it has the MX4 Ubuntu Edition.

              I just added that the issue is in the closed beta of the MX5. But this information is not in the article, and not on meizufans!

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              You really can;’t understand what I mean by “running tests on my phone” ? Does that one sentence honestly cause this much confusion for you? There was not a single comment by me that said this isn’t an issue on any other device or that Flyme is completely stage fright free. All of my comments and tests were done on MY Phone and only MY phone. No where did I infer anything about any other version or phone. And you and Francesco sure do know a lot about each other…..

            • February 5, 2016

              This aren’t an beta : http://www.flyme.cn/firmwarelist-6.html

              Flyme OS 5.1.3.0A

              Video.apk aren’t an app for the Asian market. Stafright not fixed in this stable.

            • February 5, 2016

              Version : Flyme OS 5.1.3.0A New Year Special Edition

        • Bob
          February 4, 2016

          The last betas are fixed.

          But until Dezember Flyme 5 was vulnerable, yes

        • Roger
          February 4, 2016

          This is completely unrelated to stagefright.

          • February 5, 2016

            Read the entire comment .-. I know, Stagefright are patchable libs….

      • Bob
        February 4, 2016

        Your source is? How do you back up your statement?

        Meizu announced nothing. I’m a closed beta tester and know nothing. How comes that you claim this as false positive.

        Please state your source or s.t.f.u

        For the moment is uncertain, it could be either or.

        • balcobomber25
          February 4, 2016

          My source is actual testing so either refute it with your own tests or STFU!

  12. balcobomber25
    February 3, 2016

    I am currently running a deep scan on Flyme after reading this. I am using a program we use internally here at Microsoft that can find virtually anything. I’ll report back on the results.

    Edit: Test 1 scanned just the apps and found mostly false positives in Meizu’s built in apps, privacy and security risks. Doing a deeper scan of the systems actual files and code now that will take a few hours.

    Edit 2: I performed 3 different tests scanning everything on Flyme. I couldn’t find any of the above, the only thing that came up negative were privacy risks on some of the included apps. A developer who assisted me with the tests said their was some interesting things in the code, he attempted to explain it to me but coding is like a different language to me. He is continuing to run tests, I am eating a donut. Stay tuned.

    Edit 3: The donuts were very tasty! And after 3 different dev’s all ran various tests they found nothing suspicious.

    • Francesco :)
      February 3, 2016

      Flyme 5? or 4?

    • The Special Juan
      February 3, 2016

      what flavour? chocolate with sprinkles? glazed? jelly? ๐Ÿ™‚ Thanks for all the info (about the scan AND the doughnut)

    • balcobomber25
      February 3, 2016

      I had two one was a plain chocolate frosted, I give it a 7/10. The other was a croissant donut with fudge, easily a 9/10.

    • balcobomber25
      February 3, 2016

      Flyme 5.1.2

    • jimberkas
      February 3, 2016

      nice, i clicked on the article soley to see what balco would say about this.

    • trapchan
      February 4, 2016

      do you have letv phone to tests too??

    • balcobomber25
      February 4, 2016

      Nope but we tested Meizu, Xiaomi and Elephone (a coworker uses them). All 3 came back safe. I was actually surprised by the Elephone.

    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016

      Can you explane all better? Why antivirus recognize it like a positive? Thanks for your investigation ๐Ÿ™‚

    • balcobomber25
      February 4, 2016

      Because of the permissions the particular app has enabled. Some of those permissions could lead to a security risk like reading your contacts, finding location or changing settings on your phone. A lot of Malware/Anti-virus software will detect these permissions as a potential security risk. It doesnt always mean the app itself is malware, it means it has the potential to pose a security risk. You should always look at all your apps and see what permissions they have. For instance Google Maps should have access to your location, a calculator app probably should not and if it is asking for that it could be something fishy.

    • MaxPower
      February 4, 2016

      Omg I tried the croissant fudge the other day, that was insane!

    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016

      Yes but aren’t recognized like a false positive? mmmm xD

    • balcobomber25
      February 4, 2016

      What do you mean?

    • balcobomber25
      February 4, 2016

      I am guessing you had the Dunkin Donuts version? Those are good, the ones we had were from a local bakery and they were amazing. But like my niece always says “Even a bad donut is still better broccoli”

    • Jim Shortz
      February 4, 2016

      That was exactly my question. Thanks for asking

    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016

      This is correct “You should always look at all your apps and see what permissions they have.” But why others apps aren’t recognized a positive and this yes? Why this app have this high permissions?

    • balcobomber25
      February 4, 2016

      All depends on the app and where it is from. Apps you get from the playstore are already excluded in the malware software, they know they are safe because Google is very good about removing harmful apps as soon as they are discovered. System apps usually have full permissions enabled whether they need them or not, for instance Meizu Web Browser has 35 permissions, Chrome Beta (my preferred browser) has 25.

    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016

      Ok i got you. I await verification of AVG and i hope, it is really as you say ๐Ÿ™‚

    • MaxPower
      February 4, 2016

      Yeah, I tried the DD one and was delicious. I can only imagine how the artisan one from the bakery could be.

  13. erictheking87
    February 3, 2016

    PRO 5 MINIIIII!!! I want MINIIIII!!!! Seriously I had such high hopes for Pro 5 in 4.7″ or even 5″ size…

    • balcobomber25
      February 3, 2016

      I wouldn’t hold my breath on that. Meizu hasn’t made an MX phone smaller than 5 inches since the MX2 (4.4 inches). So far the Pro Series has only increased in screen size with a new model year. Meizu’s biggest market is the Chinese market where big phones are in much larger demand than smaller ones.

  14. Francesco :)
    February 3, 2016

    I have tested 18 Antivirus on Flyme 5 beta for MX4. 9 of 18 has detected some risks… (video.apk – life.apk – gamcenter.apk)

    • balcobomber25
      February 3, 2016

      Those are false positives.

    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016

      How can be false positive if flyme is vulnerable for stagefright? If they don’t work good for developing a safe software, how i can believe is a false positive?

    • balcobomber25
      February 4, 2016

      Flyme 5.1 is not vulnerable to Stagefright.

    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016

      Sorry sir, but is vulnerable.

    • balcobomber25
      February 4, 2016

      Not on my mx5

    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016

      CM12.1 – MX4

    • balcobomber25
      February 4, 2016

      If you are using CM12.1 why are you talking about Flyme?

    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016

      .-. Making a comparation?

    • balcobomber25
      February 4, 2016

      But how are you saying Flyme is still vulnerable if you don;t use it?

    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016

      .-.

    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016
    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016
    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016

      On Flyme 5, now.

    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016

      But the point is? Why i have asked to clarify this positive? It is not my problem if others users have founded some positive in them Meizu phones and now they ask to clarify this.

    • balcobomber25
      February 4, 2016

      Which ROM are you running? I am running 5.1.2.0A and it is not vulnerable.

    • balcobomber25
      February 4, 2016

      That’s why your using the beta ROM. In the stable international ROM it is fixed.

    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016

      Yes but people whit MX4 and who have tested it or are using it? No fix for them?

    • Francesco :)
      February 4, 2016

      This version is publicized on the official Meizu forum Italian. So it is considered usable

    • balcobomber25
      February 4, 2016

      A beta ROM is usable but it’s also an experimental ROM and some things might not work right. People who are concerned should always use the current stable ROM, where it is fixed.

    • Bob
      February 4, 2016

      Your source is? How do you back up your statement?

      Meizu announced nothing. I’m a closed beta tester and know nothing. How comes that you claim this as false positive.

      Please state your source or s.t.f.u

      For the moment is uncertain, it could be either or.

    • Bob
      February 4, 2016

      The last betas are fixed.

      But until Dezember Flyme 5 was vulnerable, yes

    • Bob
      February 4, 2016

      It was vulnerable until recently. I reported this issue last October!
      And it wasn’t fixed before December

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      My source is actual testing done in at a Microsoft lab using one of the most in depth detection software ever created. If you personally have your own results to share do share them with us.

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      Which means…..

      It is not vulnerable now. At one point every versions of Android after 2.2 was vulnerable. Meizu fixed it.

    • Francesco :)
      February 5, 2016

      Read the entire comment .-. I know, Stagefright are patchable libs….

    • Francesco :)
      February 5, 2016

      Try to upload Video.apk and MzAccount.apk on this site :

    • Francesco :)
      February 5, 2016

      You can do what you want. Reality in another.

    • #Andrea
      February 5, 2016

      WTF CM? You are using CM and blaming the Flyme………. what a dumb

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      Dude, I’m confused now, first I thought you were a fanboy.

      But now you argue against Meizu.

      The stagefright on Meizu is a big problem! The Mx5 is fixed now, yes that’s right.

      But the majority of global Meizu devices are still vulnerable to this well know issue!

      Meizu failed to provide a very needed hotfix! Up to now! It’s still not fixed for the majority of Meizu phones! It’s not fully fixed yet!

      What you are pointing out, just backs up the article. You just point out that Meizu does not take our security concern serious enough.

      As said before, I don’t think that this is true.

      So my suggestion is to think before you post. Spamming useless information, that has no solid base, does no good. Neither for you, nor for Meizu.

    • Francesco :)
      February 5, 2016

      Blaming? Fanboy go home.

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      I am only a fanboy of one company, Xiaomi and i fully admit that. As for Meizu there software that I have used is completely clean of any viruses, I have done actual lab tests to back that up.

      What I pointed out is that Meizu took it serious enough to fix it in Flyme 5.1 which is available for most of their devices. Stagefright was first publicly announced in July of 215. Flyme 5.1 was released in Novemeber, it took Meizu 3 months to fix it. Over 1 billion devices in the world are still affected by that. A company Meziu’s size fixing it in 3 months shows how hard they work on their software.

      The only one “spamming useless infomration” is yourself. You have offered up nothing of value to this conversation.

    • Francesco :)
      February 5, 2016

      3 months for fix some libs? xD

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      Aha. So you say that Francesco and I are lying… Good to know.

      He tried it on the latest Chinese Beta and I tried it (and reported) it for the latest Global Flyme 5 beta.

      I have found the same issue in the global firmware and reported it to Meizu.

      The handling Meizu employee was shocked by the find, and gave it high priority. I am sure that the issue resolves in no time.

      Yes there are a lot of Stagefright affected devices, but today we talk about Meizu. And the global devices, the big majority of em are not save! Only the Meizu MX5 and Pro 5 have the update. All other devices, are left outside. That includes the widely spread Meizu M1 Note, M2 Note and Meizu M2. Those last 3 devices are much more popular in India and Europe.

      But for the moment it’s 50:50, either there is spyware on FlymeOS or there is not.

      Nobody can tell more until more information is provided.

      Francesco who found this issue, is in contact with AVG. He will know as soon as AVG confirms it as a false-positive or confirms it as a actual true-positive.

      Until then, nobody knows a thing. All we know that the Flyme 5 Global Closed Beta and Flyme 5 public Chinese Beta are affected. And users may be at danger, or may not be. Time will show

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      All I said is you can’t read which is evident by your posts. If you could read you would see that I told Francheso it was still vulnerable in the Chinese Beta and Meizu admits to it and warns people to use the beta in their own risk. And I said that the international rom it is fixed. Reading is a wonderful thing, you should try it sometime.

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      I am only talking about global devices.

      It’s not fixed for the International / Global devices. Not for the majority of those!

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      Considering much larger companies than Meizu still haven’t fixed it, I would say 3 months is very good for a company their size.

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      Again learn to read. “In Flyme 5.1.2.0.A it is fixed”. That is all I ever said, you went off on a tangent thinking I said it is fixed in all devices. And Flyme 5.1.3 is set to drop this month, we will see if it is fixed in those devices.

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      We do not talk about other companies in this topic. Scroll up and read the title again.

      This is about Meizu and problems related to Meizu.

      Pointing a finger and saying: But the others do… is just useless.

    • Francesco :)
      February 5, 2016

      This aren’t an beta : http://www.flyme.cn/firmwarelist-6.html

      Flyme OS 5.1.3.0A

      Video.apk aren’t an app for the Asian market. Stafright not fixed in this stable.

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      You must be new to this site, we always compare what one company does to what the rest of the industry does. But good luck in this personal vendetta of yours to be correct. let me know how that works out for you.

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      Okay. You seem to miss some information.

      The global / international firmware Flyme 5.1.x is only out for the meizu MX5 and Meizu Pro 5.

      The most used global / international phones are, with firmawre.

      Meizu M1 Note, last firmware: 4.5.x I
      Meizu M2 Note, last firmware: 4.5.x I
      Meizu M2, last firmware: 4.5.x I
      Meizu MX4, last firmware: 4.5.x I
      Meizu MX4 Pro, last firmware: 4.5.x I

      Until the majority. That means more than just the Meizu Pro 5 and Mx5 have the update… Until then, FlymeOS and Meizu devices are vulnerable to stagefright

    • Francesco :)
      February 5, 2016

      Only 2 Smartphone fixed on 10. Yes is good.

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      Lol no. I just don’t like useless excuse.

      I am just a problem solving oriented person.
      And pointing fingers, does not solve problems. It’s just a lame excuse, to do nothing.

    • Francesco :)
      February 5, 2016

      Version : Flyme OS 5.1.3.0A New Year Special Edition

    • Francesco :)
      February 5, 2016
    • Francesco :)
      February 5, 2016
    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      Again learn to read, it is a wonderful thing. I never mentioned majority, I never mentioned other models. You are now just having an argument with yourself. My entire comment and posts pertain to the Meizu Mx5. This entire article was talking about the Meizu Mx5. But again good luck with your vendetta. its hilarious to read your complete lack of reading comprehension now.

    • Francesco :)
      February 5, 2016

      Vendetta? I’m an Meizu user! And i want buy Meizu product! WTF go wrong with your thinking ?

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      I will summarize it for you, maybe then you understand it better.

      Your first argument: This article is not true.
      We responded: How do you know? What is your source
      Further response: nothing. Source still missing

      Your next argument: FlymeOS is not vulnerable to Stagefright
      We respond: The majority of global devices are still vulnerable, and prove that point.
      Further response: you start to call it a vendetta.

      Trololol, you are either funny or stupid. I can’t decide.

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      No one pointed fingers. My entire comments have been about one phone and one version software. You are the one who is pointing to other phones and other versions. Now I am done with this conversation because it is going nowhere.

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      Where did I say it wasn;t true? I said I ran tests on MY Phone and didn’t find anything. No where did I say it wasn’t true for other users. Point out where I said it wasn;t true.

      You really can’t read and comprehend. That critical skill of life escapes you.

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      This article is about the MX4, to be honest.

      Francesco, the guy who found it has the MX4 Ubuntu Edition.

      I just added that the issue is in the closed beta of the MX5. But this information is not in the article, and not on meizufans!

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      Ahh so you and Bob are the same person because that comment was for him. Looks like someone is exposed….

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      If you put in some effort, you will have no problem to figure out who I am.

      I use the same account picture on every forum, that’s related to Meizu, MIUI or china-devices.

      but the problem here is, you don’t do your research.

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      You really can;’t understand what I mean by “running tests on my phone” ? Does that one sentence honestly cause this much confusion for you? There was not a single comment by me that said this isn’t an issue on any other device or that Flyme is completely stage fright free. All of my comments and tests were done on MY Phone and only MY phone. No where did I infer anything about any other version or phone. And you and Francesco sure do know a lot about each other…..

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      The problem is you can’t read.

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      I will quote it for you.

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      That has nothing to do with stagefright it has to do with the Meizu apps.

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      And that is based on my tests. Again if you have done detailed tests that show they are malware please share them.

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      I can not share it! As I am a closed beta tester. If I find something it goes directly to Meizu, and they will fix it.

      But at the same time, I am sure that Francesco will share the outcome. As soon as AVG is finished investigating.

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      Aha.

      And nobody ever questioned that the Mx5 isn’t vulnerable to Stagefright either. One of the first posts of me stated that it’s fixed. It was fixed late but it’s fixed.

      Seriously…

      This is about your statement (I can quote it, if need be):
      “Meizu took 3 months to fix it.”

      What’s not true, most Meizu global / international devices, are still vulnerable to Stagefright.

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      then explain yourself better.

      pointing finger gets us nowhere, we already discussed this.

      I will write it once again: Pointing fingers is not a solution for any kind of problem. It’s just an excuse.

      So please do better than this.

    • Francesco :)
      February 5, 2016

      Nope, we aren’t the same person, but in this case much people here consider us “haters”. I have only asked to clarify the positive at AVG and Meizu.

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      Nope you need to learn to read AND comprehend better. Anyways best of luck with your ROM this conversation is going nowhere.

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      It goes nowhere because you do nothing.

      Summarize what was “wrongly understood”, pretty please. If you are able to do that.

      I will do the same now:
      -It’s uncertain if FlymeOS is full of spyware or not. FACT for now
      -The majority of global Meizu devices are vulnerable to Stagefright. FACT for now.

      So, now is your turn.

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      it goes nowhere because you can’t read or comprehend.

      – I reported based on my tests for MY device. FACT.
      – As for Stagefright I was only talking about Flyme 5.1.0.2 and stated that numerous times. FACT
      – When Francesco said he was using the Beta ROM, I said it IS still vulnerable in the Beta. FACT
      – I never once mentioned any phone other than the MX5. FACT.

      My turn is done, this conversation is done. This will by my last reply. Goodluck in your never ending quest to be the smartest guy in the room.

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      Okay, so be it, so then I can do one last summary.

      Nobody ever questioned, if your phone is vulnerable to stagefright or not.
      This article is about the Global / Chinese Beta Firmware, so clearly not about 5.1.2.0G

      Uh… and you never actually explained your tests, neither did you state a source for your “those are false positives”.

      So all you say is a lot of bullshit. The next time you post, back it up.

      Provide your source. And provide detailed information on how you verified that your phone is clean. (Of course you will have to use the same firmware as described in this topic.)

      It’s not about being the smartest person in the room. That’s not my indention or believe to be that person.

      But when I read a guy spamming bullshit, without backup, it’s hard to resists.

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      The only one who continues to spam bullshit is you.

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      Report back when you have a Source or your statement “False positives”.

      And report back with a detailed description of how you tested it on your phone. Youtube videos like Francesco made are welcome. Don’t forget to use the same firmware.

      Until then it stays bullshit, what you say.

    • balcobomber25
      February 6, 2016

      Whatever you say. I have nothing to prove to you and really could care less what you think. You are not as important as you seem to think you are. Everything you say to me is bullshit from someone who seems to have an inferiority complex to the highest degree.

    • Bob
      February 6, 2016

      I just tested it. The firmware 5.1.2.0G and 5.1.3.0G for the MX5 have the same problem.

      If you call someone this, after he asks you to prove your statements… then so be it.

      It certainly is a convenient excuse. Meanwhile all firmware versions since 5.1.2.0G are affected by the problem described in this article.

    • Francesco :)
      February 6, 2016

      This is an stable ROM. Not an Beta.

    • Francesco :)
      February 6, 2016

      And again ia an Stable. Not an Beta.

    • Bob
      February 6, 2016

      Alright.

      I have tried it on 5.1.2.0 A and 5.1.2.0G up to the latest firmware 5.1.3.0G. All of those have the same problem. the video.apk may be infected.

      If your way is to insult people instead of finally proving your point, then so be it.

      There is no help for you.

    • balcobomber25
      February 6, 2016

      That’s funny because I tried it on 5.1.2.0A and 5.1.3.0A and neither are infected with stagefright and using AVG, Panda, Kapersky, CM and Norton all come back clean.

    • balcobomber25
      February 6, 2016

      You shows a screen shot of a Beta rom….

    • balcobomber25
      February 6, 2016

      Except for the A roms which is the one I tested….

    • Bob
      February 6, 2016

      please use AZ Screen Recorder and make a video of this.
      All you need is AVG Anti Virus.

      And btw, it’s impossible that you find nothing. Quite a lot of people confirmed this issue with fimrmwares above 5.1.2.0.

      Anyway, a video created by AZ Screen Recorder is no problem at all. It’s super simple and fast.

      When you do it, open the upgrade app to prove that you use the described firmware and do it on a un-rooted device.

      Unrooted is requried to be sure that you did not remove the Video App.
      Best would be if you open the Video App as well, to prove that it’s there.

    • Bob
      February 6, 2016

      A roms were tested too. No worry about this. They also have this issue.

      Every Rom after 5.1.2.0 has this problem. A or G makes no difference.

      I described previoiusly how you can prove your statement. Pleas do so.

      Get AZ Screen Recorder.

      Open the Updater App to prove your FlymeOS Version. Open The Video App to prove it’s there. Do it on an un-rooted device.
      And run AVG AntiVirus.

    • Francesco :)
      February 6, 2016

      I’m so sorry but is an A stable ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • balcobomber25
      February 6, 2016

      If you can explain why i get different results please do. I’m not saying you’re wrong or I am right. I’m just saying i don’t get that result.

    • balcobomber25
      February 6, 2016
    • balcobomber25
      February 6, 2016

      This clearly says Beta….

    • Bob
      February 6, 2016

      Update: I will be more precise. Just to be sure you do it right.

      Use: AZ Screen Recorder to make a Video.
      Go to Settings and Show the Version of the Video App
      Open The Upgrade App to Prove your FlymeOS Version
      Open The Video App
      Open AVG AntiVirus
      Show that the ingore list in AVG Antivirus is empty
      Make a anti virus search

      upload the created video

      And once again. Every FlymeOS firmware is affected starting with 5.1.2.0 (A or G, makes no difference)

    • Bob
      February 6, 2016

      Update: I will be more precise. Just to be sure you do it right.

      Use: AZ Screen Recorder to make a Video.

      Go to Settings and Show the Version of the Video App

      Open The Upgrade App to Prove your FlymeOS Version

      Open The Video App

      Open AVG AntiVirus

      Show that the ingore list in AVG Antivirus is empty

      Make a anti virus search

      upload the created video

      And once again. Every FlymeOS firmware is affected starting with 5.1.2.0 (A or G, makes no difference)

      Thanks for finally proving your point. I am looking forward to this.

    • Bob
      February 6, 2016

      Show your Ignore list and make a video

    • Bob
      February 6, 2016

      All are affected A or G makes no difference.

    • Bob
      February 6, 2016

      Update: I will be more precise. Just to be sure you do it right.

      Use: AZ Screen Recorder to make a Video.

      Go to Settings and Show the Version of the Video App

      Open The Upgrade App to Prove your FlymeOS Version

      Open The Video App

      Open AVG AntiVirus

      Show that the ingore list in AVG Antivirus is empty

      Make a anti virus search

      upload the created video

      And once again. Every FlymeOS firmware is affected starting with 5.1.2.0 (A or G, makes no difference)

    • balcobomber25
      February 6, 2016

      I dont have time for that and this conversation has run it’s course. Best of luck with you ROM.

    • Bob
      February 6, 2016

      Haha, you don’t have time. Right.

      But You have all day to discuss. All you did in AVG was add it to the ignore list.

      Now please do as I said:

      Update: I will be more precise. Just to be sure you do it right.

      Use: AZ Screen Recorder to make a Video.

      Go to Settings and Show the Version of the Video App

      Open The Upgrade App to Prove your FlymeOS Version

      Open The Video App

      Open AVG AntiVirus

      Show that the ingore list in AVG Antivirus is empty

      Make a anti virus search

      upload the created video

      And once again. Every FlymeOS firmware is affected starting with 5.1.2.0 (A or G, makes no difference)

    • balcobomber25
      February 6, 2016

      Whatever you say, I have nothing to prove to you. I have no reason to lie, I have no affiliation, affection or allegiance to Meizu. I have better things to do than get into a pissing contest with you. This will be my final comment. best of luck to you.

    • Bob
      February 6, 2016

      I can’t copy it… so I have to repeat it.

      Well Well you don’t have time to show that the Video App is on your phone. And neither do you have time to show that there is nothing in the AVG ignore list.

      But you do have time to discuss all day. I tell you what. You just lie and got busted. ๐Ÿ˜›

      Anyway. Now instead of arguing, find the five minutes it takes. to make the Video

      in that video using AZ Screen Recorder, show that you have the Video App, show the version of the video app from the flyme settings. Show that there is nothing in the AVG Ignore list, and show your Upgrade App screen to prove the Flyme OS version.

      As said before, more than just I tested this and the Video App in Version 5.3.1 is the problem. It’s not related to the FlymeOS, but simply to the Video App

    • balcobomber25
      February 6, 2016

      You seem to think you are a lot more important than you actually are. Maybe on your Meizu forums you are a big deal, but around here you are just another poster. I could care less what you think or say. If you think I am lying and that makes you feel better go right ahead and think that. Like I said I have no reason to lie, I am a Xiaomi fanboy not a Meizu fanboy, anyone around here could tell you that. But again whatever you need to make you feel like the smartest person in the room, it doesn’t matter to me.

    • Francesco :)
      February 6, 2016

      Man is the same, same positive XD ahahahahah what you don’t understand?

    • Bob
      February 6, 2016

      You don’t know me. So how would you know this.
      But what you do is desperate flaming. You fail to provide proof, you can’t make the requested clip, as this will prove me right.

      So you flame me instead. Very adult behavior

    • Francesco :)
      February 6, 2016

      Is the same: Same positive!
      Ok i’m full, i want contact Microsft. I need to say if this “project” of an antivirus for the companies is reality or only an fake. Is better if you say now is a fake only for justifying it in favor of Meizu.

    • balcobomber25
      February 6, 2016

      Good luck with that. I’m sure Microsoft will gladly share company secrets with some kid from a forum. Of course the person you called would be me or someone working for me.

    • balcobomber25
      February 6, 2016

      Whatever you say Bobby.

    • Francesco :)
      February 6, 2016

      In this case: good luck to you, and thx for “share some company secrets with some kids in an forum” .

    • balcobomber25
      February 6, 2016

      I didn’t share anything of value, kid. But Goodluck with that phone call i look forward to hearing my secretary laugh as she hangs up.

    • Francesco :)
      February 6, 2016

      You have shared secret plan of one the big company of the world. They easily find you. Or is only a big fake for justifyng Meizu? Don’t be scared.

    • Francesco :)
      February 6, 2016

      You think that, let’s see what Microsoft thinks of what you said. Or you are only a fake? ๐Ÿ™‚

    • balcobomber25
      February 7, 2016

      Whatever you say Franny.

    • balcobomber25
      February 7, 2016

      Whatever you kiddo.

    • Marco Lorenzo
      February 16, 2016

      So, first you say the article is wrong because they were only false positives and you can confirm this because you did your test in a “Microsoft lab using one of the most in depth detection software ever created”, now you say that it’s only true for YOUR phone since that’s where you ran your tests. Smells to me like someone’s pants are on fire. I want to believe that Meizu is innocent in all this since I am really looking forward to getting a Pro 5 but until I see some actual proof that there is nothing suspicious going on, I will be holding it off.

    • Marco Lorenzo
      February 16, 2016

      You tried to make it out like you are some big exec at MS, and yet you post your phone’s IMEI number for all the world to see? Good one. In case you go back and erase your previous message, here it is again ๐Ÿ™‚

    • balcobomber25
      February 16, 2016

      I said based on my tests I didn’t find any of this, I can’t report what someone else finds on their phones. Once the phone leaves the manufacturer it is not longer the same as any other phone out there. Everyone uses different apps, visits different websites and uses different ROM’s all which bring their own security risks. Based on tests I did on my MX5 there is no malware or viruses on it.

    • balcobomber25
      February 16, 2016

      I said I am big an executive? Lol nice try, I said I work for MS. I could care less if you have IMEI numbers. I change my phones so often it really doesn’t make a difference.

    • balcobomber25
      February 16, 2016

      Enjoy your trolling though, it is quite funny that you seem so enamored with my comments. You can happily come visit me anytime at the Microsoft Offices in Massachusetts.

    • Marco Lorenzo
      February 16, 2016

      So then how can you claim that the article is reporting false positives? How do you know how the phone in the article is configured? Like you said, you can only say what it’s like on your phone but your original comment was an all-encompassing one.

    • Marco Lorenzo
      February 16, 2016

      Do Microsoft employees always capitalise the “O” when they are referring to the office that they work in like they are talking about the Office software? Hehe funny.

    • Marco Lorenzo
      February 16, 2016

      I wonder how big this Microsoft is if when one of their billions of customers call them up, they’d most likely reach you lol

    • balcobomber25
      February 16, 2016

      You call my office you’ll talk to me, i know that fact blows your mind.

    • balcobomber25
      February 16, 2016

      Do trolls really spend this much time breaking down comments on disqus? Yes, yes they do.

    • balcobomber25
      February 16, 2016

      You’re just looking for a fight, this convo is over. Best of luck to you.

    • Marco Lorenzo
      February 16, 2016

      Oh so when I respond with logic, you run away? What a shame. I was looking forward to reading what other crap you would make up.

    • Marco Lorenzo
      February 16, 2016

      Did he say he’ll call your office? I don’t think so, he simply said he’ll call Microsoft. Or are you that self centered?

    • balcobomber25
      February 16, 2016

      It’s pointless to continue this conversation you’re just looking for a fight. If you think i make everything up there’s no reason for us to talk.

    • Marco Lorenzo
      February 16, 2016

      Troll this, troll that. Is that the only argument you can come up with? Calling people trolls? How’s that working out for you?

    • balcobomber25
      February 16, 2016

      If he called asking about our antivirus software for mobile, assuming he actually got through, he would be redirected to someone in my department. Are you that moronic you don’t know that every business is made up of different departments?

    • balcobomber25
      February 16, 2016

      Working out great for me i have a bug free meizu that i got for free by being a respected member of this site. How’s it working for you?

    • Marco Lorenzo
      February 16, 2016

      “respected” haha you sure do live in your own little world. But if it’s making you happy then by all means, enjoy yourself ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Marco Lorenzo
      February 16, 2016

      He simply said he wanted to call Microsoft to ask if they have a project like that going on. They wouldn’t need to refer him to your department just to see if your department exists. But of course, you would know that if you actually worked in my company.

    • balcobomber25
      February 16, 2016

      Members of Gizchina voted who should get a free phone, i won by a landslide. Respected.

    • Marco Lorenzo
      February 16, 2016

      But I think I made a valid point before, a point that you still haven’t refuted. Have you considered becoming a politician? Might be right up your alley.

    • balcobomber25
      February 16, 2016

      And a call center employee would have no clue and would transfer him to the correct department, (mine) or hang up on him. You would know that if you worked for any large companies.

    • Marco Lorenzo
      February 16, 2016

      That’s awesome man, you should be proud of that achievement ๐Ÿ™‚

    • balcobomber25
      February 16, 2016

      I’m proud of my free phone. I’m also proud that you’re so obsessed with me. It’s the ultimate form of flattery. Anyways this conversation has run its course. I’ll be at the Microsoft booth for MWC, stop by if you’re that curious of who i am.

    • Marco Lorenzo
      February 16, 2016

      A call center employee wouldn’t transfer a customer directly to the team involved in a project or even their secretary if they had one. Care to make up more crap?

    • Marco Lorenzo
      February 16, 2016

      Yes, I’m so obsessed with you, just like how you keep replying even though you said this conversation is over. You make me so happy. By the way, you keep daring me to look you up. As a matter of fact, I will be there as well, why don’t you tell me your name?

    • Francesco :)
      February 16, 2016

      You can’t change IMEI on MX5…

    • Francesco :)
      February 17, 2016

      Hey pro look this:

    • balcobomber25
      February 17, 2016

      Where did I say you could? You love to just make stuff up and pretend that I said that, it’s quite funny actually. I could care less if my IMEI is out there, I change my phones out every 6 months and I use prepaid cell service.

    • Francesco :)
      February 17, 2016

      Bad translation ๐Ÿ™‚

    • balcobomber25
      February 17, 2016

      It depends who the caller is. That is why I said or hang up, but I know you don’t like to read full comments, you just like to take one part and run with it.

      What’s your deal anyways? You a diehard Meizu fanboy? Why do you care so much about my comments?

    • Marco Lorenzo
      February 17, 2016

      And here you are again! Welcome back ๐Ÿ˜€
      Okay, so why would they hang up when they can easily ask someone like their cubicle buddy or supervisor? Or is your department so top secret? If a call centre employee doesn’t know something, do you seriously think they’d just hang up on the customer? It’s clear you don’t work at Microsoft but do you have a job at all? Keep digging that hole buddy.
      Also, why would I be a Meizu fanboy? If I was, I’d be supporting you since you said the malware were false positives. But yeah, I can see how your shotgun approach might work for you sometimes. Just keep calling me whatever you want, as long as you can convince yourself lol

  15. Karly Johnston
    February 3, 2016

    MX5 infested with malware and lags really hard.

    • balcobomber25
      February 4, 2016

      Not even close but keep trying as usual.

      • Karly Johnston
        February 4, 2016

        You read the same articles I do. Meizu infests Flyme with malware, MTK has no security, X20 overheating so OEMs take a pass but you just don’t want to believe your phone is cheap. It is imperative to you to believe you got a good deal.

        • balcobomber25
          February 4, 2016

          I got my Meizu for free, if there is a better deal than that I haven’t found it. I have no devotion to Meizu, this is the first of their phones I have used and in all likelihood it will be the last. My favorite brand always has been Xiaomi and my next phone will most likely be the Mi5. Until this time Meizu was just another competitor. I didn’t hate them, I didn’t love them. I heard mixed things about them, so I went into this experience with an open mind. Having used one for 6 months, I have been surprised. It is very well made, the OS is smooth and problem free and the Helios X10 is an amazing little chip.

          I have read those same articles and all of them were from unconfirmed sources. I have also read articles about the SD820 overheating. I have personally tested Meizu in a Microsoft lab and found no malware and I haven’t seen anything official from an OEM regarding the X20. Last I checked Wiebo isn’t the greatest source for news. Unlike you I don’t believe everything I read, I wait for credible sources before I make my mind up and I actually run my own tests if I can.

          • February 5, 2016

            Yeah for me is really good what you have done, but the relationship of Microsoft labs and checking of vulnerabilities on an Android phone? Can you explane better, today i want learn something of new.

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              I work for Microsoft’s Mobile division. My developers work on apps for both Android and Windows Mobile. We have a new spyware/malware app that is coming to Android in 2016. That is what we used.

            • February 5, 2016

              Don’t you think, it isn’t correct to advertise products, in this situation? It might seem wanted ๐Ÿ˜‰

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              Not advertising anything. The software I used isn’t available to consumers and probably won’t be for sometime. It is being developed for businesses such as Meizu to use to test their own software internally before releasing it to the public. It is software that most consumers will never even know exists.

            • Bob
              February 5, 2016

              What software do you use? Please go into detail. I am curious now

            • balcobomber25
              February 5, 2016

              Come to work at Microsoft and I will show it to you.

          • February 5, 2016
  16. Karly Johnston
    February 4, 2016

    MX5 infested with malware and lags really hard.

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      Not even close but keep trying as usual.

    • Karly Johnston
      February 5, 2016

      You read the same articles I do. Meizu infests Flyme with malware, MTK has no security, X20 overheating so OEMs take a pass but you just don’t want to believe your phone is cheap. It is imperative to you to believe you got a good deal.

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      I got my Meizu for free, if there is a better deal than that I haven’t found it. I have no devotion to Meizu, this is the first of their phones I have used and in all likelihood it will be the last. My favorite brand always has been Xiaomi and my next phone will most likely be the Mi5. Until this time Meizu was just another competitor. I didn’t hate them, I didn’t love them. I heard mixed things about them, so I went into this experience with an open mind. Having used one for 6 months, I have been surprised. It is very well made, the OS is smooth and problem free and the Helios X10 is an amazing little chip.

      I have read those same articles and all of them were from unconfirmed sources. I have also read articles about the SD820 overheating. I have personally tested Meizu in a Microsoft lab and found no malware and I haven’t seen anything official from an OEM regarding the X20. Last I checked Wiebo isn’t the greatest source for news. Unlike you I don’t believe everything I read, I wait for credible sources before I make my mind up and I actually run my own tests if I can.

    • Francesco :)
      February 5, 2016

      Yeah for me is really good what you have done, but the relationship of Microsoft labs and checking of vulnerabilities on an Android phone? Can you explane better, today i want learn something of new.

    • Francesco :)
      February 5, 2016
    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      I work for Microsoft’s Mobile division. My developers work on apps for both Android and Windows Mobile. We have a new spyware/malware app that is coming to Android in 2016. That is what we used.

    • Francesco :)
      February 5, 2016

      Don’t you think, it isn’t correct to advertise products, in this situation? It might seem wanted ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      Not advertising anything. The software I used isn’t available to consumers and probably won’t be for sometime. It is being developed for businesses such as Meizu to use to test their own software internally before releasing it to the public. It is software that most consumers will never even know exists.

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      What software do you use? Please go into detail. I am curious now

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      Come to work at Microsoft and I will show it to you.

  17. Nilzie
    February 4, 2016

    False positives. Misleading article

    • Bob
      February 4, 2016

      Your source is?

      • balcobomber25
        February 4, 2016

        Your source refuting him?

        • Marco Lorenzo
          February 17, 2016

          He didn’t refute him, he asked him for a source. *sigh* you make it so easy.

      • #Andrea
        February 5, 2016

        You guys form meizufans really need to stop the hate

        • February 5, 2016

          How is he affiliated with us?

        • Bob
          February 5, 2016

          You are pathetic.

          When someone asks for sources. That’s your response?

          I hope you know that I help Meizu to improve the global beta firmware, as a closed beta tester.

          How does this fit together with hating Meizu? Please explain yourself.

        • Bob
          February 5, 2016

          I added this screenshot, because I am very sure that you are too lazy to do a research.

          Link: http://forum.flymeos.com/

  18. Nilzie
    February 4, 2016

    False positives. Misleading article

    • Bob
      February 4, 2016

      Your source is?

    • balcobomber25
      February 5, 2016

      Your source refuting him?

    • #Andrea
      February 5, 2016

      You guys form meizufans really need to stop the hate

    • Meizufans
      February 5, 2016

      How is he affiliated with us?

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016

      You are pathetic.

      When someone asks for sources. That’s your response?

      I hope you know that I help Meizu to improve the global beta firmware, as a closed beta tester.

      How can I hate Meizu, when I spent my free time to work as a volunteer for Meizu?

      How does this fit together with hating Meizu? Please explain yourself.

    • Marco Lorenzo
      February 17, 2016

      He didn’t refute him, he asked him for a source. *sigh* you make it so easy.