10 things you need to know about the LeEco Le Pro 3


LeEco Le Pro 3

LeEco have finally unveiled their much awaited Le Pro 3 and it seems to have caught the attention of many. Thus we now go through a list of things that you need to know about the LeEco Le Pro 3, already renamed the ‘OnePlus 3 killer’.

1. Full metal design & colors

LeEco Le Pro 3The LeEco Le Pro 3 comes in an all-metal body (98% metal) which sports a 2μm ultra high polished finish created through 58 minutes of CNC machining and 36 complex steps, giving the LeEco Le pro 3 a more refined look. The 5.5″ Full HD display is also covered in 2.5D arc glass with In-Cell touch tech.

The LeEco Le Pro 3 will be available in four colors: force gold, rose gold, silver and grey.

2. The LeEco Le Pro 3 features the top-of-the-line Qualcomm Snapdragon 821

Qualcomm Snapdragon 821

As rumors had suggested, the LeEco Le Pro 3 will be the second smartphone launched on the market to sport the latest Qualcomm Snapradon 821 (only second to the Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe). The blazing fast Qualcomm CPU will be clocked at 2.35Ghz, while the Adreno 530 GPU will be running at 653MHz.

3. LeEco Le Pro 3’s cameras

LeEco Le Pro 3The cameras on the LeEco are nothing extraordinary but should still give pretty good results, the front shooter sports a Sony IMX298 image sensor with a pixel count of 16MP and an aperture of f/2.0, no OIS. The lens is made of sapphire and it’s composed of 6 elements. Among other features we find: PDAF (0.1s fast focusing), HDR, Increased Sharpness, Smart Beauty Mode and 4K video recording at 30fps. Slow-motion videos will be 720p @ 120fps.

On the front we find an 8MP f/2.2 camera with 1.4μm big pixels (good for low-light situations) and a 76.5° wide view angle.

4. LeEco’s hidden logo

LeEco Le Pro 3LeEco seemed pretty proud to announce the new hidden logo “feature”, but all it appears to be is a LeEco stylized touch home button which lights up when pressed. That’s about it, sorry for wasting your time!

5. LeEco’s second flagship in a year?

LeEco Le Pro 3

Back in April 2016 LeEco launched the Le Max 2 which boasted a Snapdragon 820, albeit it had a bigger 5.7″ screen, that device is not much different from the Le Pro 3 LeEco have announced yesterday. So, why this need to release something? Is it to gain the customers’ good attentions back after the LeEco Le Max 2’s “fiasco”?

6. Le Pro 3’s battery and fast charging.

leeco pro 3

LeEco’s Le Pro 3 packs a massive 4070mAh in a thickness of just 7.5mm, that’s pretty amazing if we consider that other devices with similar battery capacity don’t get below 7.9mm (i.e. Huawei Mate 8). Le Pro 3’s battery also features 24W Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 and it can charge up to 50% in half an hour.

7. No 3.5mm headphone jack.

LeEco Le Pro 3

Just like the handsets they launched back in April, also the LeEco Le Pro 3 doesn’t sport a 3.5mm headphone jack. Instead it’ll support CDLA (Continual Digital Lossless Audio coupled with Dolby Atmos to give you the best quality audio through the USB Type-C port at the bottom.

8. Storage sizes and special editions.

LeEco Le Pro 3

This bit will be a bit confusing, the LeEco Le Pro 3 comes in two “normal” versions and two Zhang Yimou special editions.

Normal versions:

  • 4GB of RAM + 32GB of internal storage (UFS 2.0);
  • 6GB of RAM + 64GB of internal storage (UFS 2.0);

Special editions:

  • 4GB of RAM + 64GB of internal storage (UFS 2.0);
  • 6GB of RAM + 128GB of internal storage (UFS 2.0);

The Zhang Yimou special editions will differ from the “normal” edition in the presence of a image of the movie ‘The Great Wall’ with Matt Damon on the back of the device (picture above). All the versions lack a Micro SD slot.

9. Connectivity

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LeEco Le Pro 3 supports dual-SIM dual standby 4G+ networks with a maximum download speed of 600Mbps, the dual-band dual-antenna MIMO Wi-Fi (802.11 a/b/g/n/ac) connection can instead get to up to 866Mbps. Other than that we find NFC, GPS and bluetooth 4.2.

As for the network bands supported it’s as follows:

2G: GSM: 2/3/5/8; CDMA: BC0/BC1
3G: WCDMA: B1/2/4/5/8 TD-SCDMA: B34/39; EVDO:BC0/BC1

4G: FDD-LTE: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20
TDD-LTE:38/39/40/41

10. Prices and availability

LeEco Le Pro 3

The LeEco Le Pro 3 will cost 1,799 Yuan ($269) in the 4GB + 32GB configuration and 1,999 Yuan ($299) in the 6GB + 64GB variant. The special editions will be 2499 Yuan ($375) for the 4GB RAM + 64GB ROM, and 2999 Yuan ($450) for the second version with 6GB of RAM and 128GB of internal storage.

The LeEco Le Pro 3 can already be pre-ordered and they will shipped to Chinese customers from September 28th.

If those prices are to be believed, we’re talking about an amazing price to specs ratio. It’s true that we can already find Snapdragon 820 equipped devices for just over $250 in this period, but the LeEco Le Pro 3 just beats them all. It has two down-sides, though — no headphone’s jack and no expandable storage.

 

What do you guys think? Can you live without 3.5mm jack and micro SD expansion?

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190 Comments

  1. Lupo
    September 22, 2016

    should’ve worked more on that bazels

  2. Klaus E. Werner
    September 22, 2016

    Does anybody know of headphones by B&W, Audiotecnica, Sennheiser etc with USB-C? No? OK, thank you.

    • MattD
      September 22, 2016

      I’m sure you already knew you can use normal headphones plugging the in-bundle adapter

      • September 22, 2016

        But there was an element of fun in his comment anyway 😉

        • Muhammad Yasir
          September 22, 2016

          elaborate

          also , where’s andi ?

        • MattD
          September 22, 2016

          Indeed, his sarcastic tone is on point!

      • Klaus E. Werner
        September 22, 2016

        Yes, I know, but then the whole experience becomes very awkward, with the additional adapter dangling from the phone. At this point, I would skip the phone as music machine and buy a separate Fiio or XDuo.

        • MattD
          September 22, 2016

          Yeah, the whole point of removing something and tell people that’s an advantage is always stupid (like Samsung used to say that removing microsd card slot on the s6 was better for the overall speed).
          But that’s the direction the market is moving to, whether we like it or not. The “lossless audio” is going to become a standard for whoever wants a better audio, so don’t worry: pricey headphones with type-c plug are on the way once this new technology become more widespread.

          Also, yes, using a dedicated machine to do something is always better than using the phone. But having everything in one machine is the whole point of the industry nowadays: what’s the point of paying 800+ $ for a smartphone with a good camera when a 200$ camera will always be better?

          I’m pretty sure I’m not telling you nothing you didn’t knew already, that’s just for discussing!

          • Klaus E. Werner
            September 23, 2016

            Yes, right. But there’s also convenience factor: I’m having the smartphone always with me, so taking pictures is more likely to happen with my smartphone than with a dedicated camera (image quality aside).
            The same is true for the music: If I can download OGG/FLAC directly from Bandcamp, I’d like to be able to listen to it right away without copying it into a separate device (sound quality aside).
            I can understand the move by Apple – which always was a closed garden, with as few outputs as possible. “Buy a new Apple headphone”, anyway. But for LeEco giving away the convenience of a 3.5 mm jack just for design’s sake I don’t understand.
            Now it’s only 7 mm thick. So what? Next year they make it 5 mm and we have to buy an external screen?
            Nice discussion, btw 🙂

            • MattD
              September 26, 2016

              Yeah, apple makes everything for the money, but for whatever reason they set a standard for the the whole industry… Sadly!
              And, here it comes leeco: I don’t think they removed 3.5 jack for a thickness reason, I think they did so they can say “we did it before apple”… I know it’s stupid, but that’s how marketing goes: they can advertise all of those stupid things about lossless audio and no one can say “you copied apple”. Moreover, it makes sense since they put a lot of effort in the audio department!

            • Klaus E. Werner
              September 26, 2016

              I’ve only now read the LeEco statement about their reasoning:
              http://forum.le.com/us/index.php?threads/the-magic-is-in-the-details.565/

              So, the decoder is taken away from the phone and from now on – *each and every headphone/earplug has to have its own digital-analog decoder*.

              I wonder if next time they throw out the GPS/GLONASS sensor, the WiFi radio, or whatever based on the same reasoning.

              The whole move doesn’t make sense from the user perspective. You’re right: it can be understood only from the PR department’s point of view.

          • NextHype
            September 23, 2016

            Lossless audio won’t become a standard as it moves the DAC out of the phone. Apple did it so it’ll become a new standard ? I don’t think so. They’re just cutting expenses and making it look like a technological revolution when that’s just a fraud.

            I’m sure every brand is gonna sell Type C headphones but their jewels will still be jack connected.

            • MattD
              September 26, 2016

              I don’t think 3.5 jack will be totally replaced anytime soon, but at some point lossless audio will go just along with it: after all, lossless audio is a nice feature for whoever works with sound, and then it comes posers trying to imitate them… I mean, “beats by dre” had a lot of success even thought everyone who tryed it say it’s overrated at the very least.

              About apple: yes, absolutely! They gives you less and then marketing makes its magic, convincing millions of people it’s a big advantage… Totally stupid! But we can’t deny they’re blindly followed by all of the market, and their mistakes become standard for apparently no reason! That’s why I fear that this one too will become a new standard even thought it’s just as stupid as sealed batteries and lack of microsd… We kind of got used to the latter, don’t know if we won’t got used to type-c music too…

  3. Luis Amaral
    September 22, 2016

    why was the Lemax2 considered a fiasco?

    • Muhammad Yasir
      September 22, 2016

      same question …

      its a MASSIVE flagship … one i’m very interested in !

      • September 22, 2016

        I also like the phone but the missing headphone jack plus some other minor problems kind of killed it at the start (in my opinion). It also didn’t cost less than $250 as it does now.

        • Muhammad Yasir
          September 22, 2016

          can you tell me the ‘minor problems’ in decent detail ?

          • September 23, 2016

            Haven’t own one personally but reading around people complain about no micro sd, no custom ROMs and some don’t like LeEco’s EUI. Also the battery isn’t that big (3100mAh) for a device with that screen size.
            Either way, as I said in the other comment, that’s something you are willing to ignore if you spend less than $250.

            • bob
              September 23, 2016

              I own the 32 GB Rosé Gold Le Max 2 and I am loving it! Even the color!

              32 GB are more than enough for me. On my OP3 there are still about 49 GB free.
              I also have no need for a custom ROM or am dealing with EUI, I use Apex Launcher and it works like a charm.
              The 3100 mAh battery gets me through two whole days with some 4.5 hours of DOT. Not extremely great, but enough for me.

              I paid US-$ 335 in June, which was 77% of the price for my OP3, and still consider the LeEco Max 2 worth every Penny!

            • Muhammad Yasir
              September 23, 2016

              lol … battery and ui is no problem for me. i haven’t flashed a phone , so not sure about custom roms.

              32gb storage looks good. but can we use Google Drive to upload photos and other stuff to cloud for backup ?

            • September 24, 2016

              Yeah, I don’t see why not hopefully Google won’t change that!

            • Muhammad Yasir
              September 25, 2016

              lol

    • Nicola
      September 22, 2016

      It is not a Fiasco,is a good phone,but Leeco Have to improve theyr software,Camera is very good,even in low light condition

      • Luis Amaral
        September 22, 2016

        And thats the issue isn’t it? Putting out so many models means that resources will be split and the majority of it will be assigned to the newest phone.
        Lemax 2 might be considered a flagship but leco has moved on to a new toy so i expect minor updates now for the phone. But i still havent seen an explanation why gizmo says that phone wad a fiasco???

        • September 22, 2016

          Maybe I’ve been a bit harsh but the LeEco Le Max 2 hasn’t had a huge success, mostly due to no headphone jack and some minor lacks. This only my opinion, though, not gizchina’s.
          Said that, the Le Max 2 is a must buy now that it costs less than $250!

          • Muhammad Yasir
            September 22, 2016

            233$ now :p

            i’m gonna take some time to collect/earn cash :p

            lets see if it plunges BELOW $200

            • AtereJr
              September 23, 2016

              Don’t push it mate.

            • Muhammad Yasir
              September 23, 2016

              im not rich af

          • Luis Amaral
            September 22, 2016

            The 3 also doesnt have a headphone jack. Is that still going to be a problem or now its actually a good feature for this new device?

            • September 23, 2016

              Some people will still not buy it because of that but it really comes down to the price IMHO, if it costs as much as they say then maybe it’s worth the trade.

            • lildwell
              September 23, 2016

              Not for me in the slightest. They remove the headphone jack and the SD card? That’s just stale son.

  4. Muhammad Yasir
    September 22, 2016

    i’m ALREADY in love with Le Max 2 !

    i just need the cash now 😀

    • Nicola
      September 22, 2016

      I had One,speed on Xiaomi rn3 was faster,and finger print sometime is very slow and not perfect

      • Muhammad Yasir
        September 22, 2016

        ah mann !

        what do you mean speed was faster ? fingerprint speed or something else ?

        also , i would BLINDLY order a RN3 PRO but Xiaomi are banned in Pakistan due to a multitude of reasons !

        • Assefa Hanson
          September 22, 2016

          Lol

          • Muhammad Yasir
            September 22, 2016

            rubbing salt , eh ?

            • Assefa Hanson
              September 22, 2016

              XD

        • Nicola
          September 22, 2016

          I meant miui is faster ,finger print scanner sometimes is slow to recognise,but at the last Lemax 2 have better display,camera and audio(in call and speaker), apologize for my english ?

          • Muhammad Yasir
            September 22, 2016

            yay ! Le Max 2 cam is good!

            please tell me how good the Le Max 2 FRONT cam (selfie camera ) is ?

            your english is fine , mate 🙂

            • Nicola
              September 23, 2016

              Front camera is good,a bit less in low light condiction

            • Muhammad Yasir
              September 23, 2016

              ok

  5. pa5t1s
    September 22, 2016

    LeEco LeMax 2 was/is not a fiasco afaik… Anyway, this Le Pro 3 seems great…but the FDD-LTE B1/3/7 bands are not enough for me (needing B3/7/20/28 at best)

    • Josh
      September 22, 2016

      What Pierre couldn’t know. LeEco exchanged the specs of its specsheet. Now there is written:
      FDD-LTE: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20
      TDD-LTE:38/39/40/41
      Good news, right?”

  6. ludas
    September 22, 2016

    No band20, no fun. :-/

    • September 22, 2016

      Looks like the band 20 is supported, LeEco updated their spec sheet. The article has been corrected.

  7. Simion Florin
    September 22, 2016

    No OIS, no micro SD card, these 2 things stop this phone to be trully great, price/performance. And some bezels…

  8. realjjj
    September 22, 2016

    This is not a flagship, this is lower (or budget) high end, the next flagship is this one https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx40&os=Android&api=gl&D=LeTV+LeEco+X10+%28X850%29&testgroup=info

    • Assefa Hanson
      September 22, 2016

      Long time no see really, you sure about that this flagship has only 32 gb rom and 4gb ram :/ is the the le2s?

    • Muhammad Yasir
      September 22, 2016

      @realjjj:disqus sersiously … WHERE YOU BEEEEEENNNNNN

    • Muhammad Yasir
      September 22, 2016

      if THIS is not a freaking flagship … THEN I HATE THE $270 PRICE !

      it should be $170 at max !

    • AtereJr
      September 23, 2016

      Since when is having a Snapdragon 820 and up plus 6GB of RAM not a flagship?
      Its cool if u don’t like the phone (no one will blame u) but don’t start saying BS like “this is not a flagship”.

  9. Danny H.
    September 22, 2016

    If you think about it, this Le Eco 3 is priced according to current market condition, it’s not expensive but it’s not that cheap either.

    1st, metal unibody is not that expensive, just look at xiaomi redmi 4 or redmi pro.

    2nd, very thick screen bezel, my zuk z1 from last year has thinner border than that!

    3rd,camera is OK at best, mediocre at worst, no dual camera, no ois, just average.

    4th, the screen is only full HD, no 2k

    For sure, various corners have been cut to reach those price points! No loss to Le Eco here!

    • Guaire
      September 22, 2016

      Your ZUK Z1 is 3.5mm wider and 4.3mm taller than Pro 3. So if you are interested actual dimensions it has smaller bezels. Only iPhone Plus models has larger bezels than ZUK Z1 anyway.

      2 years ago Xiaomi Mi4 was only Chinese flagship with Snapdragon 801 at 2000 yuan point with 16GB/3GB model as far as I remember.

      Snapdragon 821, 64GB UFS 2.0 storage and 6GB RAM is quite a bargain for 2000 yuan. For same price Mi5 came with 32GB/3GB and a watered down Snapdragon 820.

      Its a mystery to me why Xiaomi and several other brands makes flagships with ever fragile glass backs and make budget phones with metal.

      • SnowyCat
        September 22, 2016

        it feels great, i got the le max 2 and mi5 and yeah its slippery..but i prefer the smooth feel in the hand ^^ but its everyones taste :3

        • Assefa Hanson
          September 22, 2016

          But is it really Smoot or just greasy with all those fingerprints :/ to each his own tho

          • SnowyCat
            September 24, 2016

            i dunno..i like both..but i have to say what i really like about the mi5 or also xiaomi phones i had are those rounded corners…other phones feel a bit more like a brick..like the le max 2 feels really sturdy and stuff..but those rounded sides really do wonder when it comes to how it lays in the hand

            • Assefa Hanson
              September 24, 2016

              yeah they really are ergonomic

        • Muhammad Yasir
          September 22, 2016

          @disqus_jiL6EhI6RK:disqus , plz tell me about le max 2

          esp camera. how’s the front cam esp ?

          and anything else you can tell

          • SnowyCat
            September 24, 2016

            camera is really detailed, low light is good..but its kinda of the less saturated side..so its more natural but i like a bit of punch

            hdr tends to take all the greens out somehow 🙁 looks like the color is sucked out fo the grass..but in terms of details its really good

            i dunno..i liked the camera if it jsut had a bit better hdr

            front camera is really good..you cana lso find some camera comparisons and camera reviews on youtube to see the results

      • Danny H.
        September 23, 2016

        I’m pretty sure the MI 5s announced in a few days will at least matched or even beat Le eco price and although xiaomi is not my 1st choice I would prefer xiaomi over Le eco any day of the week! Simply because xiaomi has better support from the community than Le eco. Long term support is an important criterion for me as I don’t change phone that often.

        • AtereJr
          September 23, 2016

          Expect a starting price of $400 for the Mi5s (that is if Xiaomi are really feeling charitable).

    • Assefa Hanson
      September 22, 2016

      I will never understand how not having 2k results is cutting corners, using your “thinn-ness” argument shouldn’t the metal body cost then more for the R&D it took to get 4000mah in 7.5mm

      The camera sensor of course the sensor since reviews/ camera samples are limited now, is actually very good at best and OK at worst, the imx 298 is no slouch in low light conditions see
      The zenfone 3, OP3 and Huawei nova plus for examples not world leading but very good

      • Danny H.
        September 23, 2016

        Up to this point, none of Le eco released phones are famous for good camera, quite on the contrary actually, so I won’t hold my breath on that. They make ok phones, not great when their phones have various cost cutting measures to reach lower price points.

        • Assefa Hanson
          September 23, 2016

          Asus isn’t famous for having great camera either but they delivered this time around, seeing that they are using the imx 298 sensor most of the work should be done for them already so chances are the camera is likely to be good

          As for leeco’s cost cutting it is not a physical one but more so a negative profit approach that gets consumers in and make money from them being in the leeco system that’s where they make the money back

  10. greg
    September 22, 2016

    The resellers are already offering insane increase in the sale price , Leeco should have its own international online channel sales , just like OP

    • MaxPower
      September 22, 2016

      Wait like a month and price will be realistic

      • Wolvie
        September 24, 2016

        I don’t think 1 month is enough, maybe 3 to 6 months is more realistic for the online re-seller to lower their price to a more reasonable one.

        • Luis Amaral
          September 24, 2016

          In two months time they will have a new ‘flagship’ to sell.

        • MaxPower
          September 24, 2016

          Yes, 3 months sounds reasonable

  11. Ivo001
    September 22, 2016

    U sure about B20?

  12. Lupo
    September 22, 2016

    should’ve worked more on that bazels

  13. Klaus E. Werner
    September 22, 2016

    Does anybody know of headphones by B&W, Audiotecnica, Sennheiser etc with USB-C? No? OK, thank you.

    • MattD
      September 22, 2016

      I’m sure you already knew you can use normal headphones plugging the in-bundle adapter

    • Yash Garg
      September 22, 2016

      But there was an element of fun in his comment anyway 😉

    • Guest
      September 22, 2016

      elaborate

      also , where’s andi ?

    • Klaus E. Werner
      September 22, 2016

      Yes, I know, but then the whole experience becomes very awkward, with the additional adapter dangling from the phone. At this point, I would skip the phone as music machine and buy a separate Fiio or XDuo.

    • MattD
      September 23, 2016

      Yeah, the whole point of removing something and tell people that’s an advantage is always stupid (like Samsung used to say that removing microsd card slot on the s6 was better for the overall speed).
      But that’s the direction the market is moving to, whether we like it or not. The “lossless audio” is going to become a standard for whoever wants a better audio, so don’t worry: pricey headphones with type-c plug are on the way once this new technology become more widespread.

      Also, yes, using a dedicated machine to do something is always better than using the phone. But having everything in one machine is the whole point of the industry nowadays: what’s the point of paying 800+ $ for a smartphone with a good camera when a 200$ camera will always be better?

      I’m pretty sure I’m not telling you nothing you didn’t knew already, that’s just for discussing!

    • MattD
      September 23, 2016

      Indeed, his sarcastic tone is on point!

    • Klaus E. Werner
      September 23, 2016

      Yes, right. But there’s also convenience factor: I’m having the smartphone always with me, so taking pictures is more likely to happen with my smartphone than with a dedicated camera (image quality aside).
      The same is true for the music: If I can download OGG/FLAC directly from Bandcamp, I’d like to be able to listen to it right away without copying it into a separate device (sound quality aside).
      I can understand the move by Apple – which always was a closed garden, with as few outputs as possible. “Buy a new Apple headphone”, anyway. But for LeEco giving away the convenience of a 3.5 mm jack just for design’s sake I don’t understand.
      Now it’s only 7 mm thick. So what? Next year they make it 5 mm and we have to buy an external screen?
      p.s. Nice overview of the tech details and consequences here: https://www.engadget.com/2016/06/09/usb-c-and-lightning-headphones-arent-great-news-for-everyone/
      p.p.s Nice discussion, btw 🙂

    • NextHype
      September 23, 2016

      Lossless audio won’t become a standard as it moves the DAC out of the phone. Apple did it so it’ll become a new standard ? I don’t think so. They’re just cutting expenses and making it look like a technological revolution when that’s just a fraud.

      I’m sure every brand is gonna sell Type C headphones but their jewels will still be jack connected.

    • MattD
      September 26, 2016

      Yeah, apple makes everything for the money, but for whatever reason they set a standard for the the whole industry… Sadly!
      And, here it comes leeco: I don’t think they removed 3.5 jack for a thickness reason, I think they did so they can say “we did it before apple”… I know it’s stupid, but that’s how marketing goes: they can advertise all of those stupid things about lossless audio and no one can say “you copied apple”. Moreover, it makes sense since they put a lot of effort in the audio department!

    • MattD
      September 26, 2016

      I don’t think 3.5 jack will be totally replaced anytime soon, but at some point lossless audio will go just along with it: after all, lossless audio is a nice feature for whoever works with sound, and then it comes posers trying to imitate them… I mean, “beats by dre” had a lot of success even thought everyone who tryed it say it’s overrated at the very least.

      About apple: yes, absolutely! They gives you less and then marketing makes its magic, convincing millions of people it’s a big advantage… Totally stupid! But we can’t deny they’re blindly followed by all of the market, and their mistakes become standard for apparently no reason! That’s why I fear that this one too will become a new standard even thought it’s just as stupid as sealed batteries and lack of microsd… We kind of got used to the latter, don’t know if we won’t get used to type-c music too…

  14. Luis Amaral
    September 22, 2016

    why was the Lemax2 considered a fiasco?

    • Guest
      September 22, 2016

      same question …

      its a MASSIVE flagship … one i’m very interested in !

    • Nicola
      September 22, 2016

      It is not a Fiasco,is a good phone,but Leeco Have to improve theyr software,Camera is very good,even in low light condition

    • Luis Amaral
      September 22, 2016

      And thats the issue isn’t it? Putting out so many models means that resources will be split and the majority of it will be assigned to the newest phone.
      Lemax 2 might be considered a flagship but leco has moved on to a new toy so i expect minor updates now for the phone. But i still havent seen an explanation why gizmo says that phone wad a fiasco???

    • Pierre
      September 22, 2016

      I also like the phone but the missing headphone jack plus some other minor problems kind of killed it at the start (in my opinion). It also didn’t cost less than $250 as it does now.

    • Pierre
      September 22, 2016

      Maybe I’ve been a bit harsh but the LeEco Le Max 2 hasn’t had a huge success, mostly due to no headphone jack and some minor lacks. This only my opinion, though, not gizchina’s.
      Said that, the Le Max 2 is a must buy now that it costs less than $250!

    • Guest
      September 22, 2016

      can you tell me the ‘minor problems’ in decent detail ?

    • Guest
      September 22, 2016

      233$ now :p

      i’m gonna take some time to collect/earn cash :p

      lets see if it plunges BELOW $200

    • Luis Amaral
      September 22, 2016

      The 3 also doesnt have a headphone jack. Is that still going to be a problem or now its actually a good feature for this new device?

    • Pierre
      September 23, 2016

      Some people will still not buy it because of that but it really comes down to the price IMHO, if it costs as much as they say then maybe it’s worth the trade.

    • Pierre
      September 23, 2016

      Haven’t own one personally but reading around people complain about no micro sd, no custom ROMs and some don’t like LeEco’s EUI. Also the battery isn’t that big (3100mAh) for a device with that screen size.
      Either way, as I said in the other comment, that’s something you are willing to ignore if you spend less than $250.

    • Guest
      September 23, 2016

      I own the 32 GB Rosé Gold Le Max 2 and I am loving it! Even the color!

      32 GB are more than enough for me. On my OP3 there are still about 49 GB free.
      I also have no need for a custom ROM or am dealing with EUI, I use Apex Launcher and it works like a charm.
      The 3100 mAh battery gets me through two whole days with some 4.5 hours of DOT. Not extremely great, but enough for me.

      I paid US-$ 335 in June, which was 77% of the price for my OP3, and still consider the LeEco Max 2 worth every Penny!

    • AtereJr
      September 23, 2016

      Don’t push it mate.

    • Guest
      September 23, 2016

      im not rich af

    • Guest
      September 23, 2016

      lol … battery and ui is no problem for me. i haven’t flashed a phone , so not sure about custom roms.

      32gb storage looks good. but can we use Google Drive to upload photos and other stuff to cloud for backup ?

    • lildwell
      September 23, 2016

      Not for me in the slightest. They remove the headphone jack and the SD card? That’s just stale son.

    • Pierre
      September 24, 2016

      Yeah, I don’t see why not hopefully Google won’t change that!

    • Guest
      September 25, 2016

      lol

  15. Guest
    September 22, 2016

    i’m ALREADY in love with Le Max 2 !

    i just need the cash now 😀

    • Nicola
      September 22, 2016

      🤔

    • Guest
      September 22, 2016

      ah mann !

      what do you mean speed was faster ? fingerprint speed or something else ?

      also , i would BLINDLY order a RN3 PRO but Xiaomi are banned in Pakistan due to a multitude of reasons !

    • Assefa Hanson
      September 22, 2016

      Lol

    • Guest
      September 22, 2016

      rubbing salt , eh ?

    • Nicola
      September 22, 2016

      I meant miui is faster ,finger print scanner sometimes is slow to recognise,but at the last Lemax 2 have better display,camera and audio(in call and speaker), apologize for my english 😁

    • Guest
      September 22, 2016

      yay ! Le Max 2 cam is good!

      please tell me how good the Le Max 2 FRONT cam (selfie camera ) is ?

      your english is fine , mate 🙂

    • Assefa Hanson
      September 22, 2016

      XD

    • Nicola
      September 23, 2016

      Front camera is good,a bit less in low light condition

    • Guest
      September 23, 2016

      ok

  16. pa5t1s
    September 22, 2016

    LeEco LeMax 2 was/is not a fiasco afaik… Anyway, this Le Pro 3 seems great…but the FDD-LTE B1/3/7 bands are not enough for me (needing B3/7/20/28 at best)

    • Guest
      September 22, 2016

      What Pierre couldn’t know. LeEco exchanged the specs of its specsheet. Now there is written:
      FDD-LTE: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20
      TDD-LTE:38/39/40/41
      Good news, right?”

    • Guest
      September 22, 2016
    • Pierre
      September 22, 2016

      Thanks for the feedback, it has been corrected.

    • Guest
      September 22, 2016

      You’re welcome! 🙂

    • pa5t1s
      September 23, 2016

      Aaaaaaah! better, definitely!

  17. ludas
    September 22, 2016

    No band20, no fun. :-/

    • Pierre
      September 22, 2016

      Looks like the band 20 is supported, LeEco updated their spec sheet. The article has been corrected.

  18. Simion Florin
    September 22, 2016

    No OIS, no micro SD card, these 2 things stop this phone to be trully great, price/performance. And some bezels…

  19. realjjj
    September 22, 2016

    This is not a flagship, this is lower (or budget) high end, the next flagship is this one https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx40&os=Android&api=gl&D=LeTV+LeEco+X10+%28X850%29&testgroup=info

    • Assefa Hanson
      September 22, 2016

      Long time no see really, you sure about that this flagship has only 32 gb rom and 4gb ram :/ is the the le2s?

    • Guest
      September 22, 2016

      @realjjj:disqus sersiously … WHERE YOU BEEEEEENNNNNN

    • Guest
      September 22, 2016

      if THIS is not a freaking flagship … THEN I HATE THE $270 PRICE !

      it should be $170 at max !

    • AtereJr
      September 23, 2016

      Since when is having a Snapdragon 820 and up plus 6GB of RAM not a flagship?
      Its cool if u don’t like the phone (no one will blame u) but don’t start saying BS like “this is not a flagship”.

  20. AHappyKoalaBear
    September 22, 2016

    I will never buy a phone from them, no black color, no microsd, no custom ROMs, no headphone jack, and they wonder why the last one didn’t sell good

    • Danny
      September 23, 2016

      What is wrong with those people they just fuck themselves in the ass

  21. Danny H.
    September 22, 2016

    If you think about it, this Le Eco 3 is priced according to current market condition, it’s not expensive but it’s not that cheap either.

    1st, metal unibody is not that expensive, just look at xiaomi redmi 4 or redmi pro.

    2nd, very thick screen bezel, my zuk z1 from last year has thinner border than that!

    3rd,camera is OK at best, mediocre at worst, no dual camera, no ois, just average.

    4th, the screen is only full HD, no 2k

    For sure, various corners have been cut to reach those price points! No loss to Le Eco here!

    • Guaire
      September 22, 2016

      Your ZUK Z1 is 3.5mm wider and 4.3mm taller than Pro 3. So if you are interested actual dimensions it has smaller bezels. Only iPhone Plus models has larger bezels than ZUK Z1 anyway.

      2 years ago Xiaomi Mi4 was only Chinese flagship with Snapdragon 801 at 2000 yuan point with 16GB/3GB model as far as I remember.

      Snapdragon 821, 64GB UFS 2.0 storage and 6GB RAM is quite a bargain for 2000 yuan. For same price Mi5 came with 32GB/3GB and a watered down Snapdragon 820.

      Its a mystery to me why Xiaomi and several other brands makes flagships with ever fragile glass backs and make budget phones with metal.

    • SnowyCat
      September 22, 2016

      it feels great, i got the le max 2 and mi5 and yeah its slippery..but i prefer the smooth feel in the hand ^^ but its everyones taste :3

    • Assefa Hanson
      September 22, 2016

      I will never understand how not having 2k results is cutting corners, using your “thinn-ness” argument shouldn’t the metal body cost then more for the R&D it took to get 4000mah in 7.5mm

      The camera sensor of course the sensor since reviews/ camera samples are limited now, is actually very good at best and OK at worst, the imx 298 is no slouch in low light conditions see
      The zenfone 3, OP3 and Huawei nova plus for examples not world leading but very good

      Let’s wait and see if it’s an up to part camera Ois is unnecessary for stable picture/videos

    • Assefa Hanson
      September 22, 2016

      But is it really Smoot or just greasy with all those fingerprints :/ to each his own tho

    • Guest
      September 22, 2016

      @disqus_jiL6EhI6RK:disqus , plz tell me about le max 2

      esp camera. how’s the front cam esp ?

      and anything else you can tell

    • Danny H.
      September 23, 2016

      Up to this point, none of Le eco released phones are famous for good camera, quite on the contrary actually, so I won’t hold my breath on that. They make ok phones, not great when their phones have various cost cutting measures to reach lower price points.

    • Danny H.
      September 23, 2016

      I’m pretty sure the MI 5s announced in a few days will at least matched or even beat Le eco price and although xiaomi is not my 1st choice I would prefer xiaomi over Le eco any day of the week! Simply because xiaomi has better support from the community than Le eco. Long term support is an important criterion for me as I don’t change phone that often.

    • Assefa Hanson
      September 23, 2016

      Asus isn’t famous for having great camera either but they delivered this time around, seeing that they are using the imx 298 sensor most of the work should be done for them already so chances are the camera is likely to be good

      As for leeco’s cost cutting it is not a physical one but more so a negative profit approach that gets consumers in and make money from them being in the leeco system that’s where they make the money back

    • AtereJr
      September 23, 2016

      Expect a starting price of $400 for the Mi5s (that is if Xiaomi are really feeling charitable).

    • SnowyCat
      September 24, 2016

      i dunno..i like both..but i have to say what i really like about the mi5 or also xiaomi phones i had are those rounded corners…other phones feel a bit more like a brick..like the le max 2 feels really sturdy and stuff..but those rounded sides really do wonder when it comes to how it lays in the hand

    • SnowyCat
      September 24, 2016

      camera is really detailed, low light is good..but its kinda of the less saturated side..so its more natural but i like a bit of punch

      hdr tends to take all the greens out somehow 🙁 looks like the color is sucked out fo the grass..but in terms of details its really good

      i dunno..i liked the camera if it jsut had a bit better hdr

      front camera is really good..you cana lso find some camera comparisons and camera reviews on youtube to see the results

    • Assefa Hanson
      September 24, 2016

      yeah they really are ergonomic

  22. greg
    September 22, 2016

    The resellers are already offering insane increase in the sale price , Leeco should have its own international online channel sales , just like OP

    • MaxPower
      September 22, 2016

      Wait like a month and price will be realistic

    • Guest
      September 24, 2016

      I don’t think 1 month is enough, maybe 3 to 6 months is more realistic for the online re-seller to lower their price to a more reasonable one.

    • Luis Amaral
      September 24, 2016

      In two months time they will have a new ‘flagship’ to sell.

    • MaxPower
      September 24, 2016

      Yes, 3 months sounds reasonable

  23. Ivo001
    September 22, 2016

    U sure about B20?

    • Pierre
      September 23, 2016
    • AtereJr
      September 23, 2016

      “LeEco’s Le Pro 3 packs a massive 4070mAh in a thickness of just 7.5mm, that’s pretty amazing if we consider that other devices with similar battery capacity don’t get below 7.9mm (i.e. Huawei Mate 8).”
      I think u narrowed down the example(s) u considered cos a little more research would’ve mean the Nubia z11 max with similar battery capacity (4000mah) and a thickness of 7.4mm makes it to that brief list and the term ‘pretty amazing’ avoided.

    • yalok
      October 1, 2016

      z11 is also bigger by 0.5″, so I guess it still counts.

  24. AHappyKoalaBear
    September 22, 2016

    I will never buy a phone from them, no black color, no microsd, no custom ROMs, no headphone jack, and they wonder why the last one didn’t sell good

    • Danny
      September 23, 2016

      What is wrong with those people they just fuck themselves in the ass

  25. Cynaegeirus
    September 23, 2016

    “Is it to gain the customers’ good attentions back after the LeEco Le Max 2’s fiasco?”

    what fiasco?????

    • Karly Johnston
      September 23, 2016

      Only coming in Pink?

      • Trayanee
        September 23, 2016

        Thats the only one I can imagine…but pretty bad to be honest. For that price its really outstanding but I just dont see myself using a pink phone…wish I was a girl..:-D

        • bob
          September 23, 2016

          I feel fine using it! Sure, I would prefer a different color, maybe Gray or Silver or even regular Gold, but hey, those specs for that kind of money?! Are you kidding me? Really a no-brainer

          • Andreash
            September 23, 2016

            Actually Le Max 2 did come in other colors, only the higher end variants thoe. 6GB 64GB and 6GB 128GB came in grey or force gold (not rose gold). These cost WAY more than the base variant thoe. Hopefully with the le pro 3 you can choose color regardless of variant.

            • Luis Amaral
              September 24, 2016

              From what I’ve seen on youtube the phone doesnt look pink at all.

  26. Cynaegeirus
    September 23, 2016

    “Is it to gain the customers’ good attentions back after the LeEco Le Max 2’s fiasco?”

    what fiasco?????

    • Karly Johnston
      September 23, 2016

      Only coming in Pink?

    • Trayanee
      September 23, 2016

      Thats the only one I can imagine…but pretty bad to be honest. For that price its really outstanding but I just dont see myself using a pink phone…wish I was a girl..:-D

    • Guest
      September 23, 2016

      I feel fine using it! Sure, I would prefer a different color, maybe Gray or Silver or even regular Gold, but hey, those specs for that kind of money?! Are you kidding me? Really a no-brainer

    • Andreash
      September 23, 2016

      Actually Le Max 2 did come in other colors, only the higher end variants thoe. 6GB 64GB and 6GB 128GB came in grey or force gold (not rose gold). These cost WAY more than the base variant thoe. Hopefully with the le pro 3 you can choose color regardless of variant.

    • Luis Amaral
      September 24, 2016

      From what I’ve seen on youtube the phone doesnt look pink at all.

  27. NextHype
    September 23, 2016

    This can’t do the trick without SD and jack.
    Mi5S got a real advantage here.

    • will
      May 9, 2017

      Mi got no bands.

  28. Luis Amaral
    September 23, 2016

    An i the only one that would like to read a side by side review of the lemax 2 and le pro 3?

  29. NextHype
    September 23, 2016

    This can’t do the trick without SD and jack.
    Mi5S got a real advantage here.

    • will
      May 9, 2017

      Mi got no bands.

  30. Luis Amaral
    September 23, 2016

    An i the only one that would like to read a side by side review of the lemax 2 and le pro 3?

  31. Alek
    September 23, 2016

    love the phone, hate the black border!

  32. Danny
    September 23, 2016

    No black version? Well LeEco can suck my balls. I have my X600 because it’s black. A front black is the only logical color.

    • NextHype
      September 26, 2016

      LeEco should have only black front phone, to hide their famous LeBorders.

  33. Alek
    September 23, 2016

    love the phone, hate the black border!

  34. Danny
    September 23, 2016

    No black version? Well LeEco can suck my balls. I have my X600 because it’s black. A front black is the only logical color.

    • NextHype
      September 26, 2016

      LeEco should have only black front phone, to hide their famous LeBorders.

  35. inquirercet
    September 26, 2016

    Is this right? The 4+64 “special edition” is more expensive than the 6+64?

  36. inquirercet
    September 27, 2016

    Is this right? The 4+64 “special edition” is more expensive than the 6+64?

  37. vudux
    September 30, 2016

    Retarded people everywhere

    I have the le max2 and the le 2 pro and both phones are increíbles

    I dont need sd slot because 64 and 32 gb of space are enough these days if you use cloud base storage (sorry if you are poor and can afford It or phone data)

    3.5 Jack common you wont see any of this in around 5 years and probable phones charges wireless too

    CDLA sound is better than Jack obviusly listen 320mp3 (those 25€ headphones sound equal as 100€ headphones)

    Anyways the box comes with usb c and Jack adapter so stop crying

    And you can use BT headphones too

    • getrektboiiiii
      November 11, 2016

      “sorry if you are poor and can afford It or phone data”, can’t*. Cloud storage won’t help you store apps and you need a data connection which you can’t always get. Also if you are so rich then why not just buy a S7 Edge or Mate 9?

  38. vudux
    September 30, 2016

    Retarded people everywhere

    I have the le max2 and the le 2 pro and both phones are increíbles

    I dont need sd slot because 64 and 32 gb of space are enough these days if you use cloud base storage (sorry if you are poor and can afford It or phone data)

    3.5 Jack common you wont see any of this in around 5 years and probable phones charges wireless too

    CDLA sound is better than Jack obviusly listen 320mp3 (those 25€ headphones sound equal as 100€ headphones)

    Anyways the box comes with usb c and Jack adapter so stop crying

    And you can use BT headphones too

    • Guest
      November 11, 2016

      “sorry if you are poor and can afford It or phone data”, can’t*. Cloud storage won’t help you store apps and you need a data connection which you can’t always get. Also if you are so rich then why not just buy a S7 Edge or Mate 9?

  39. dollylala
    October 27, 2016

    Why put all these bells and whistles on a lovely phone but no OIS? I made that mistake once and never again. I will spend more to get it, but will have to spend it somewhere else.

  40. dollylala
    October 27, 2016

    Why put all these bells and whistles on a lovely phone but no OIS? I made that mistake once and never again. I will spend more to get it, but will have to spend it somewhere else.