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Andi Sykes is the founder and editor of Gizchina.com. He is a huge technology and gadget fan with a soft spot for hacking devices to do what they were not intended for. He also enjoys searching through electronics 'cities' looking for the latest 'knock offs'. Follow Me! Tumblr / Linkedin / Twitter

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17 Comments

  1. Hafid_be
    Hafid_be September 20, 2012 at 8:19 am .

    they such a càcktease…. gd it

  2. jorge
    jorge September 20, 2012 at 8:22 am .

    To be fair my biggest problem is the goverment of my country, which dislike the fact we citizens want a broader choice than they magnanimously give us.

  3. max
    max September 20, 2012 at 8:27 am .

    Bro, Also add—

    Stop using either HD screens or meeker batteries. They don’t go well hand in hand.

    This also Includes repackaging 1500mAh batteries in 2500mAh marked shells. That’s too shallow to do, especially when your showing off your gorilla glass screens , breaking walnuts and all those Apple class gimmicks.

    Those $5 extra spend on battery will give you back 5 million customers.

  4. Nat
    Nat September 20, 2012 at 8:35 am .

    I agree pretty much. Also if they want to compete in the international market they should stop releasing dual core phones on ICS with 512 MB ram. I’m actually pretty impressed by the fast paced advancements in the Chinese smartphone market lately. Every smartphone (3) I ever had was Chinese and always satisfactory. Though you have to be careful. A year ago when the MT6573 processor was released, the Chinese resellers labelled the chip as dual-core when it was in fact a single-core. Just a tip for you readers: ALWAYS MAKE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH BEFORE BUYING !

  5. YaPeL
    YaPeL September 20, 2012 at 8:58 am .

    I will add: leaving the rest of the world out, whats the deal with mostly shipping phones with the band 850 and 2100?

  6. Ivan
    Ivan September 20, 2012 at 9:47 am .

    Hi Andi, can’t agree more. These brands can live up and have a fighting chance even in international market. Jiayu G3 simply showed us the potential based on the hype it was generated (before people get tired of waiting).

  7. Viktor
    Viktor September 20, 2012 at 9:47 am .

    @Andi
    Spot on.. all 5 points.

    @Max, Nat
    Battery relabelling + underpowering ICS… spot on.

    In general, have style and face… but that’s not only missing from the phone manufacturers.
    I guess this is what lacks from the current Chinese culture, where you need to show much more than you have, placing golden rims and flashing neons around everything. Riding long-version Audi A4 and VW Passats…

    Anyway, we won’t be able to change that.
    Unless everyone changes attitude, those companies will be always in the shadow who don’t ‘flash their tits’, and trying to be conservative.
    The Chinese internal market is getting bigger all the time, and the cheap manufacturers focus on that piece.. not us.

  8. Ernesto
    Ernesto September 20, 2012 at 10:27 am .

    “Chinese phone companies however tend to leak their designs with no idea of when they will hit the market leaving us to sit around waiting. This is no good for the customer or the brand!”

    “There is nothing worse than to wait for months for a phone such as the Xiaomi M1s or M2 to finally launch only to find out that you can only order it online…. AND there will only be X number available!”

    Hi Andy. I couldn´t have said it better. This is an utterly right and fair post that you should try and convey chinese brands´ CEOs and marketing managers (if you ever could).
    For the time being, I think that this way of releasing news and long term projects that will never probably come to reality or even expecting to buy a phone/tablet that will hit the markets 6-8 months later, not knowing about its availability and stock is really depressing.

    Again, thank you Andy for understanding this problem and let top managers know it, ´cause ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

  9. millgate
    millgate September 20, 2012 at 1:25 pm .

    Andi,

    The largest ‘loophole’ in the Chinese marketplace, in my opinion, is the lack of a trustworthy, strongly financially backed, Chinese drop-shipper for the UK and European marketplaces.

    We need to be able to ‘meet and greet’ using SKYPE or email with the VERY BEST SUPPLIERS who can GUARANTEE sales, drop-shipments and QUALITY ADVERTISING / MARKETING in our marketplace – and personal contacts.

    We need a full scale technical support and problem solving organisation English speaking staff working on European time-frames.

    I believe we need to be able to place TOTALLY SAFE ORDERS, using PayPal and Credit Cards, for multiple, batched single order, drop shipments and for 3 day delivery, in all the European markets. That would enable us to offer 6 day order turn-round here in Europe.

  10. luznykolo
    luznykolo September 20, 2012 at 4:49 pm .

    No comment Andy. Truth truth truth,.

  11. euston
    euston September 20, 2012 at 5:10 pm .

    Chinese phone makers , hire a design team ! Who wants to be embarrassed by a cheap knockoff it just makes the user look cheap.
    We want something unique , something with the China signature scrawled a cross it , something we can pull out of the pocket and say , yes its from China , doesn’t it look great.

  12. farookb4u
    farookb4u September 20, 2012 at 8:20 pm .

    1000% correct andy! each n every word u say is totally true! better u translate the same article in pure chinese and send it to all these chinese manufacturers! hopefully thy will change after seeing ur article!!

  13. Freeje
    Freeje September 20, 2012 at 8:25 pm .

    How about buggy ROMs and lack of “upgradeability”? That’s one of my concerns with buying Chinese phones. It’s not a problem for established foreign or even local ones like Xiaomi. If you don’t like the stock ROM then you can flash modded ones done by devs. You could try logging into Chinese forums but good luck with that. You have to get a Chinese to do that for you.

    Markets outside China are not of their concern right now. Local market to them is big enough. They don’t have the financial strength to branch out to overseas markets yet.

  14. Ivan
    Ivan September 20, 2012 at 10:19 pm .

    @freeje: I don’t think it is the most of the concern, Surely upgradeability, customization ROM is one thing, but the 5 points Andi said are the most basic and common sense on every industry, asking them for more is a bit… well too far. If they can fulfill the basic, most of the time your concern (and also mine) about upgradeability and ROM customization will come by itself. I mean look at ZTE Blade, there are tons and I really mean tons of ROM, even my Blade now running on JB (still alpha version but hey). Don’t get me wrong, I am agree that they should concern about the upgradeability, even I expect more, like unique UI that specifically unique for dual sim phone or direct access to 2g/3g toggle switch, both numbers’ call log on lock screen. But asking them this much when they cannot really fulfill the basic things are.. well.. not reasonable.

  15. Partha Dutta
    Partha Dutta September 20, 2012 at 10:27 pm .

    Andi, I am in complete agreement with you and Millgate’s worries which are general worries and I endorse the same alongwith the suggestion to you by Farookb4u.

  16. dallas
    dallas September 21, 2012 at 5:55 am .

    With your product reviews and seller recommendations , at least now us ordinary Joe’s have half a chance . Up until now buying Chinese electronics was a real lottery and as for finding a reliable and honest site to buy from was a waiting game of nerves.
    Keep up the great work and great site.

  17. Millgate
    Millgate October 7, 2012 at 12:06 pm .

    Hello Andi,

    You know well, that I am seeking to create a small ‘line’ of quality “6 inch”, ‘pocketable’, smartphone/tablets and a range of accessories, to market through my website … http://www.70plus-feeling50.com

    Well … here’s some good news !!

    I’m beginning to get REAL responses from RESPECTED Chinese suppliers.

    We are discussing HW and SW, screen specs (1280 +); dual, quality, cameras, stylii and … all targeting SG NOTE 2 specs.

    All this with sensible pricing, a UK ordering process; and … ‘one to multiple’ DROP SHIPPING orders throughout Europe.on 3-6 day turnarounds.

    I’m actually planning/designing the website pages as you read this email.

    I’m encouraged to say that ‘persistence really does pay’ !!

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